73 Iron_Clad_5000 Members 161 posts 8,380 battles Report post #1 Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Just a word to the wise, please read below. Hello Iron_Clad_5000, Thank you for contacting us.The mission provides the owners of "standard" ships earn some extra doubloons for receiving the "black" versions of these ships, please note the following news:Special Combat Mission Until January 31, 2021, y You can complete the special combat mission for each ship playing the standard (not black) version of each black ship. Five victories in Random, Ranked, or Co-op battles will bring you: If you play IX Jean Bart—25,000 Coal and 2,500 doubloons. If you play IX Alaska—100,000 Free XP and 2,500 doubloons. If you play VIII Cossack, VIII Kaga, VII Atlanta, VIII Atago, VIII Asashio, VIII Graf Zeppelin, VIII Massachusetts, VIII Tirpitz, or VII Scharnhorst—2,500 doubloons for each ship. If you play VII Sims—1,500 doubloons. During the current Black Friday event, you can obtain the combat mission for each ship only once per account. The combat mission is allocated to your account when you purchase a black ship, obtain her from a container, or receive a compensation for her during Black Friday 2020. Please note: you'll receive the combat mission even if, at the moment when you get a black ship, you don't have the standard version of this ship that's required to complete the mission. You can complete the combat mission by purchasing the necessary ship and winning the required number of battles playing this ship before January 31, 2021. Should you have any other issues, please don't hesitate to contact us.Have a great day and Happy Sailing!Best regards, The just of it is that the Black ship that you buy cannot be used to complete the doubloon mission attached to it. Wish I had known this before my purchase, but at least now you do. Live strong, Edited November 29, 2020 by Iron_Clad_5000 1 1 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,723 theLaalaa Members 1,820 posts 27,169 battles Report post #2 Posted November 29, 2020 Similar posts have been posted about every two hours for the last two days. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,099 [4HIM] ZARDOZ_II Members 3,243 posts 14,313 battles Report post #3 Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, theLaalaa said: Similar posts have been posted about every two hours for the last two days. And probably will for several more days. Then repeat next year during the BF event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73 Iron_Clad_5000 Members 161 posts 8,380 battles Report post #4 Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, theLaalaa said: Similar posts have been posted about every two hours for the last two days. It is to be hoped that if enough players speak up that WG will stop pulling these tricks. One can dream, right. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,664 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,242 posts 6,659 battles Report post #5 Posted November 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Iron_Clad_5000 said: It is to be hoped that if enough players speak up that WG will stop pulling these tricks. One can dream, right. It's not a trick, it's WG's method of throwing a bone to people that already have the normal version of a premium ship so they can at least get a bit out of it. If it didn't exist then people that got duplicate ships would complain. You can't appease everyone. Feel free to be critical of WG's choices in terms of marketing and selling in general; I wholeheartedly agree. But in that case and considering it's clearly mentioned in the purchase page, it's the buyer's responsibility. 7 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
396 [WOLF4] _GreyBeard_ [WOLF4] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 897 posts 13,857 battles Report post #6 Posted November 29, 2020 The severe lack of reading comprehension these days is just mind blowing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
241 [GOCRY] SeaGladius Members 639 posts Report post #7 Posted November 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, Iron_Clad_5000 said: It is to be hoped that if enough players speak up that WG will stop pulling these tricks. One can dream, right. The forums aren't a place for feedback. This place is nothing more than a safety valve for people to vent their frustrations, much like the Karma system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
479 [FOXY] Princess_Daystar Members 1,211 posts 5,765 battles Report post #8 Posted November 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, _GreyBeard_ said: The severe lack of reading comprehension these days is just mind blowing. But its wargamings fault :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
856 [SAINT] Jolly_Rodgered [SAINT] Members 1,518 posts 18,152 battles Report post #9 Posted November 29, 2020 I'm not trying to be contrary but the ad clearly states what you're buying. The fact that so many people are complaining that they didn't bother to read the ad is shocking. This is one of the few situations where I actually agree with War Gaming, which is also shocking. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
233 Whiskey_Rebel Members 446 posts 2,700 battles Report post #10 Posted November 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, theLaalaa said: Similar posts have been posted about every two hours for the last two days. 40 minutes ago, ZARDOZ_II said: And probably will for several more days. Then repeat next year during the BF event. Gosh, I wonder why WG repeatedly offers packages that constantly confuse people in a way that nets more cash for WG. I guess we'll never know. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,019 Farm_Fresh_Eggs Members 720 posts Report post #11 Posted November 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, Iron_Clad_5000 said: It is to be hoped that if enough players speak up that WG will stop pulling these tricks. One can dream, right. Its not a trick. The black ships are identical to the originals -- but at a nicely reduced price. In the case of the JBB, not only are you getting a great price, you're getting a ship that is no longer available. The issue for WeeGee is how can they generate sales to people who already have the originals and really dont need a second copy. They decided to issue a 'rebate' in the form of a mission to offer some extras as a carrot to the folks who have the regular premiums.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,343 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 6,906 posts 16,580 battles Report post #12 Posted November 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, theLaalaa said: Similar posts have been posted about...for the last two years. Fixed that for you. This is the third year of the Black Friday ships and the associated doubloon missions. Nothing has changed since inception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,019 Farm_Fresh_Eggs Members 720 posts Report post #13 Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Whiskey_Rebel said: Gosh, I wonder why WG repeatedly offers packages that constantly confuse people in a way that nets more cash for WG. I guess we'll never know. Russian company. Differences in customs, norms, and practices across cultures can be problematic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,708 [WPORT] Wolfswetpaws Members 7,174 posts 12,186 battles Report post #14 Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Farm_Fresh_Eggs said: Russian company. Differences in customs, norms, and practices across cultures can be problematic. And to mitigate that factor, they're supposed to hire people who will bring the necessary knowledge to the table so that local customs (and laws) can be handled appropriately. At least, that is the *theory*. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,969 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,185 posts Report post #15 Posted November 29, 2020 49 minutes ago, warheart1992 said: It's not a trick, it's WG's method of throwing a bone to people that already have the normal version of a premium ship so they can at least get a bit out of it. If it didn't exist then people that got duplicate ships would complain. You can't appease everyone. Feel free to be critical of WG's choices in terms of marketing and selling in general; I wholeheartedly agree. But in that case and considering it's clearly mentioned in the purchase page, it's the buyer's responsibility. It is a means for one player to own two versions of the same ship, something we cannot do otherwise. If also puts an item of desire - black camo - behind a virtual "pay wall" thus earning far more money than a mere permanent black camo could earn; after all, you are purchasing an entire ship, not just a camo. Sometimes when dealing with this company you must really think about something before making a move. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,019 Farm_Fresh_Eggs Members 720 posts Report post #16 Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said: And to mitigate that factor, they're supposed to hire people who will bring the necessary knowledge to the table so that local customs (and laws) can be handled appropriately. At least, that is the *theory*. Probably why there was a change in NA personnel right after the PR event last year. I'm betting WeeGee is pretty cheap and doesnt pay much, so they get what they deserve. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
233 Whiskey_Rebel Members 446 posts 2,700 battles Report post #17 Posted November 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Farm_Fresh_Eggs said: Russian company. Differences in customs, norms, and practices across cultures can be problematic. Greed has no country. WG's deceptive marketing practices are entirely legal in the U.S. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,708 [WPORT] Wolfswetpaws Members 7,174 posts 12,186 battles Report post #18 Posted November 29, 2020 R.I.F. Reading Is Fundamental, television advertisement in the 1980's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,162 [EQRN] FrodoFraggin Members 2,167 posts 19,125 battles Report post #19 Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, theLaalaa said: Similar posts have been posted about every two hours for the last two days. And for the last 2 years since Black ships came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14,246 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 22,401 posts 16,275 battles Report post #20 Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Iron_Clad_5000 said: It is to be hoped that if enough players speak up that WG will stop pulling these tricks. One can dream, right. It is to be hoped that one day common sense will reign, and that people will come here to clarify before they buy instead of coming here afterwards to complain. 1 hour ago, Whiskey_Rebel said: Gosh, I wonder why WG repeatedly offers packages that constantly confuse people in a way that nets more cash for WG. I guess we'll never know. Then tell me why I have not been confused, year after year after year. Explain to me why there are significant numbers of people who KNOW without being told what the OP found out the hard way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
233 Whiskey_Rebel Members 446 posts 2,700 battles Report post #21 Posted November 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: Then tell me why I have not been confused, year after year after year. It isn't about you. WG doesn't need any specific person's money. They just need to be deceptive in a way that ensures a return over thousands of players, in aggregate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,001 CylonRed Members 5,516 posts 10,682 battles Report post #22 Posted November 29, 2020 At least one person who complained stated plainly that they did not read anything and bought it immediately expecting a mission for doubloons. Ir makes zero sense that they would sell a ship at a discounted rate and then give you more doubloons making it even cheaper... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14,246 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 22,401 posts 16,275 battles Report post #23 Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Whiskey_Rebel said: It isn't about you. WG doesn't need any specific person's money. They just need to be deceptive in a way that ensures a return over thousands of players, in aggregate. Your accusation of deceptive business practices is treading the fine line that separates opinion from libel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73 Iron_Clad_5000 Members 161 posts 8,380 battles Report post #24 Posted November 29, 2020 In my opinion, it is beholden upon the community to speak out when something like this rears its head and not condone it. If you want change you can't hide you head in the sand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
479 [FOXY] Princess_Daystar Members 1,211 posts 5,765 battles Report post #25 Posted November 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: Your accusation of deceptive business practices is treading the fine line that separates opinion from libel. They always say thousands too...But its only ever a few who complain. If thousands were really getting confused by this id expect far more threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites