885 [HELLS] GrandAdmiral_2016 Members 2,789 posts 30,102 battles Report post #1 Posted November 23, 2020 A month ago I had 15 T10s including two specials. and had 2 million FXP. The cost of a single T10 FXP ship seemed a bit steep, especially since I am not a DD player. I examined what could be done tech tree wise. I had the T9 DKM BB, was at T8 in the IJN CA line, T8 in the IJN torpedo boat line, T8 at the USN CV line, T6 in the RN CA line, T7 in IJN torp DD line, T9 in the IJN gunboat DD line and T8 in the MN BB line. I also looked at the coal ships and followed up on what was going to get pulled from the Premium Shop and the Armory. With a single buy of 3,000 doubloons and some selective play in Randoms and Co-op I now have Grosser Kurfurst, Harugumo, Shimakaze, Goliath, Zao, République and Midway in my port, with about 2000 FXP and 1000 doubloons left over. I got some help from a supercrate drop of a week's Premium Time that made it easier. Seven tech tree T10s instead of Smaland, I'll take that. Plus I have enough coal and steel for either Marceau or Yoshino to add to the collection. I think that is a pretty efficient way to fill out my T10 collection instead of grinding forever and a day to get a single ship. Now to await the snowflake event and see if RNG is nice to me this year.... 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
324 [LANCE] Bravo4zero Members 868 posts 6,497 battles Report post #2 Posted November 23, 2020 Nice haul there mate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,405 [FORM] TheArc Members 2,121 posts 13,030 battles Report post #3 Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said: I think that is a pretty efficient way to fill out my T10 collection instead of grinding forever and a day to get a single ship. 2M FXP is a whole lot. I play a ton, and I have no interest in spend my FXP on the Smal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
322 [-AF-] Altwar Beta Testers 744 posts 10,074 battles Report post #4 Posted November 23, 2020 Huh! Funny how the OP's post makes a whole lot of sense! Food for thought for me. I've only 3 tier 10s at this time and 1.45m FXP in reserve. I was thinking of getting the Agir but that ship doesn't exactly fire me up to get anytime soon. Meanwhile I do have 2 tech tree tier 9s and 3 tier 8s I could push with the FXP and improve my tier 10 situation quite nicely. I'm going to have to calculate this as a real possibility.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,392 [INTEL] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 38,066 battles Report post #5 Posted November 23, 2020 Watching my div mate @ClassicLibrack up 210k damage and murder opposing dds has made me reconsider my decision not to get it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68 [5D8] UnOrthoDocks Members 191 posts 20,118 battles Report post #6 Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Let me preface this by stating that I am w/o a doubt a potato. However, talking to a lot of unicum/super unicum players I've learned that while fxp'n a ship isn't ideal sometimes its necessary for something like the snowflakes to get "more". The advice given to me tho is after the fact is to go back and play those ships that you skipped, so that you can at least get a general idea of how they play, so that if you need to play them for something like ranked or whatever you have a general idea what you're doing. having said all that, awesome idea! i'm currently trying to figure out the best way to get the most 10's myself, so that i may also take a chance w/ rng on the snowflakes. i have the zao researched, but not bought. I'm fairly credit poor (19m), and that would take a huge chunk out. I don't have any of the ijn BB line, i have the the whole DD gunboat line. US I have all the main BB line, and the Kansas. I have both cruiser lines, and only up to 7 on the mahan. USSR I'm up to the t8 BB, have all of both cruiser lines, and up to 6 on the DD line. germany all the BB's, t7 cruiser, and 6 DD UK up to 9 on BB, t10 on light cruiser, and 6 on heavy, and 8 on the DDs french all the bb's, 6 on cruiser and DD nothing for pan asia (other than premiums) italy up to 10 on the cruisers europe up to 6 I have 383k fxp, and as I stated 19m credits. I have a long road ahead. my thought process is try to keep stocking up on the fxp, and when the snowflakes come around knock them off for a line, reset it, and use the credits/fxp to boost some other lines. Edited November 23, 2020 by UnOrthoDocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,836 [SIDE] thebigblue Members 4,939 posts Report post #7 Posted November 23, 2020 This isn't directed at anyone in particular. In general: Please don't free xp into tier 10's unless you are familiar with high tier gameplay. We already have way too many potato's sniping from A-row in Kurfs or trying to torpedo kiting battleships from 14 km. 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
885 [HELLS] GrandAdmiral_2016 Members 2,789 posts 30,102 battles Report post #8 Posted November 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, thebigblue said: This isn't directed at anyone in particular. In general: Please don't free xp into tier 10's unless you are familiar with high tier gameplay. We already have way too many potato's sniping from A-row in Kurfs or trying to torpedo kiting battleships from 14 km. At 8000+ Random game and 27,000 Co-op games, I consider myself a grown-up. If anything I am too agressive at high tier play....you cannot fix potatohood... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
153 [NG-NL] imaginary_b Members 380 posts 10,325 battles Report post #9 Posted November 23, 2020 Really nice work! I can't think of a more efficient use of resources than that. Thanks for explaining how you put that together. It's like "extreme couponing" except without the coupons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
153 [NG-NL] imaginary_b Members 380 posts 10,325 battles Report post #10 Posted November 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, thebigblue said: This isn't directed at anyone in particular. In general: Please don't free xp into tier 10's unless you are familiar with high tier gameplay. We already have way too many potato's sniping from A-row in Kurfs or trying to torpedo kiting battleships from 14 km. Tier 9 isn't a gateway that keeps fools out of Fairyland. It just gives players like me 200 battles in which to practice how to lose in a new ship, so we're not surprised when we reach Tier 10. 2 minutes ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said: At 8000+ Random game and 27,000 Co-op games, I consider myself a grown-up. If anything I am too agressive at high tier play....you cannot fix potatohood... I'll be right up there with you! "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!" Sitting sideways in smoke, waiting for torpedoes to come up. It works in Halland. It works in Khabarovsk. And when I'm in Großer Kurfürst...let's just say the torpedoes take a loooong time to reload. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,836 [SIDE] thebigblue Members 4,939 posts Report post #11 Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said: At 8000+ Random game and 27,000 Co-op games, I consider myself a grown-up. If anything I am too agressive at high tier play....you cannot fix potatohood... Yeah man. Same here. That's why I was trying careful about not identifying any particular person or group. 8000 game player can prob figure out a new ship added to a familiar type pretty quick. I'm more concerned about the relatively new players grabbing fxp skipped Midway with only 6 games in carriers. Just because th y can doesn't mean it's a good idea. That's all I was getting at. Edited November 23, 2020 by thebigblue 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14,953 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 23,002 posts 17,027 battles Report post #12 Posted November 23, 2020 11 hours ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said: With a single buy of 3,000 doubloons and some selective play in Randoms and Co-op Can I ask exactly what you did with the doubloons? Was it to convert enough FXP to get you over a threshold? Not what I'd have done - I prefer to absorb the full flavour of a line with all its shifts and changes on the way to the top - but I don't think I can fault your reasoning, and it certainly was an efficient use of the FXP in that context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,021 [APEZ] Gabriel_LXIX Members 2,516 posts 8,937 battles Report post #13 Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) This sounds like serious cope just not to get Smaland are you convincing yourself or us Edited November 23, 2020 by why_u_heff_to_be_mad 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,253 [GOB] Col_Nasty Members 2,709 posts Report post #14 Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Good Job! I'm frozen in my spending right now simply because I am waiting to see what is next. I have all the coal ships right now with 340K waiting to see what new ones come out. 120M Credits I am back up to after my latest spending spree. I will also be back up to 3M FXP by the end of this week , again waiting to see what the new FXP ships will be. Also just under 2M ECXP as I froze all captains because of the 21 point thing on the way. I only have 10 T10s But I imagine I will know better if I want to do what you did long before the flakes go away. Edited November 23, 2020 by Col_Nasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
885 [HELLS] GrandAdmiral_2016 Members 2,789 posts 30,102 battles Report post #15 Posted November 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: Can I ask exactly what you did with the doubloons? Was it to convert enough FXP to get you over a threshold? Not what I'd have done - I prefer to absorb the full flavour of a line with all its shifts and changes on the way to the top - but I don't think I can fault your reasoning, and it certainly was an efficient use of the FXP in that context. Just enough. I grind to the B and C hulls and examine what I need in FXP to complete. If I need more FXP I flag up and go play Randoms in the ship itself or with my top tier Premiums that pay more FXP-wise. Below T9 I grind the whole works. The XP cost at high tiers takes forever to grind and I was sitting on so much FXP without seeing any new FXP ships that appeal to my play style that I took the plunge. I was also looking to see what might come up when the snowflakes come back around. Almost all T10 ships are reasonable to play when properly equipped. Now it is up to Santa's RNG... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 [KUK-M] orangman Members 24 posts 25,410 battles Report post #16 Posted November 23, 2020 I did 'worst bang for the Buck's'. I was wondering re-grinding the least played line, so I reset IJN BB line because I rarely play them except Musashi and Yamato. After playing that line for 2 days, I spent 1m fxp to get my Yamato back. So I spent 1m fxp to get 20k research pts. To me, most tedious grinding is T9 techtree ships. I could get 3 t10 skipping T9 with that 1m fxp. I would buy smal if it is 1m fxp. I agree it's a good ship but playing t10 DD with all radar ships and t10 CV is pain itself these days. Whenever I see my 30k research pts, I am thinking what I should do with that. Now I really don't want to reset after one experience. To me, just playing t9 premium, new techtree ships, and some ranked are the most fun. I also want some clan battles but my clan never do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14,953 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 23,002 posts 17,027 battles Report post #17 Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said: The XP cost at high tiers takes forever to grind It depends on how quickly you want it, and occasionally on how quickly you need it (e.g. Moskva, when they announced she was going premium). I sort of amazed myself this year by power-grinding to Moskva, Shima, Daring and Yamato when in some of those lines I was no higher than Tier 7 or 8. Moskva was unplanned but I still got in well ahead of schedule, Daring and Yamato were originally "Let's get this done by Christmas", and Shima was an out-of-the-blue whim. I stunned myself by getting it all done by sometime within September. Much of this was driven by the temporary campaign to get that Polish special captain; that was a very convenient carrot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,252 [DVYJC] RainbowFartingUnicorn Members 3,809 posts 9,449 battles Report post #18 Posted November 23, 2020 Yes, that was pretty efficient, certainly if you decided you'll never want Smaland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,940 [A-I-M] MannyD_of_The_Sea Members 3,769 posts 14,724 battles Report post #19 Posted November 23, 2020 8 hours ago, UnOrthoDocks said: I have 383m fxp, and as I stated 19m credits. I have a long road ahead. my thought process is try to keep stocking up 383 million FXP??? And your thought process is to keep stocking up? 1. Maybe you have your “decimal point” (or k vs. m) messed up, 2. You could unlock every tech tree ship and grab every FXP ship and still have well over 300m FXP left over, 3. You can’t take it with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,433 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 12,335 posts 17,511 battles Report post #20 Posted November 23, 2020 9 hours ago, UnOrthoDocks said: I have 383m fxp, Wait? What? 383 million free xp? Do you mean you have 383m convertible XP? That is XP that you can use doubloons on to turn into Free XP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68 [5D8] UnOrthoDocks Members 191 posts 20,118 battles Report post #21 Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, MannyD_of_The_Sea said: 383 million FXP??? And your thought process is to keep stocking up? 1. Maybe you have your “decimal point” (or k vs. m) messed up, 2. You could unlock every tech tree ship and grab every FXP ship and still have well over 300m FXP left over, 3. You can’t take it with you. 57 minutes ago, paradat said: Wait? What? 383 million free xp? Do you mean you have 383m convertible XP? That is XP that you can use doubloons on to turn into Free XP? yes 383k NOT m. It was late when I was typing it haha. I wish I had 383m. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,433 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 12,335 posts 17,511 battles Report post #22 Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, UnOrthoDocks said: yes 383k NOT m. It was late when I was typing it haha. I wish I had 383m. Ah OK post now makes perfect sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
52 [X-M-S] Bomont Members 158 posts 3,371 battles Report post #23 Posted November 24, 2020 Good luck on the snowflakes. It would be interesting if you posted in here what you get for those crates. To me, this is a good use of your resources if you're not interested in Smaland. I already have ships that are unlocked but I don't have enough credits to buy so I don't plan to follow your example, but maybe next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
