14,812 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 22,856 posts 16,941 battles Report post #1 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Located in the lower left below the own-player's-team list is a grounded, rusted wreck whose type I cannot identify. I suspect it's something WG made up, but if it's an actual ship type I would be very interested to know. That forward secondary casemate mount is mildly reminiscent of a jet intake, and it's nothing like I've ever seen on an actual warship. NB: This is not naming-and-shaming because there are not yet any results. Edited November 22, 2020 by Ensign_Cthulhu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,139 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 7,358 posts 14,119 battles Report post #2 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) I believe that was supposed to be the Emden. It sat abandoned in this condition until after WW2. Edited November 21, 2020 by AVR_Project Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,772 [WOLF5] AJTP89 Supertester 4,731 posts 4,263 battles Report post #3 Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, AVR_Project said: I believe that was supposed to be the Emden. It sat abandoned in this condition until after WW2. If it's supposed to be Emden it doesn't match the model. This wreck looks to have a forward double turret, and then two double wing turrets, which isn't close to what Emden has. It has also casement mounted secondaries. I agree historically it matches Emden, but the model definitely doesn't. The wing turrets narrow the list, there's only a few ships in game with those. A quick look and the closest I found was the French T3 BB Turenne, which still isn't an exact match. I also think that map and picture predate French BBs, so yeah. You may be right, WG could have just made it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,139 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 7,358 posts 14,119 battles Report post #4 Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, AJTP89 said: If it's supposed to be Emden it doesn't match the model. This wreck looks to have a forward double turret, and then two double wing turrets, which isn't close to what Emden has. It has also casement mounted secondaries. I agree historically it matches Emden, but the model definitely doesn't. The wing turrets narrow the list, there's only a few ships in game with those. A quick look and the closest I found was the French T3 BB Turenne, which still isn't an exact match. I also think that map and picture predate French BBs, so yeah. You may be right, WG could have just made it up. It more resembles the Olympia.... But then.. it never sunk. Like you say, 'Artistic License'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,964 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,527 posts 6,846 battles Report post #5 Posted November 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: Located in the lower left below the own-player's-team list is a grounded, rusted wreck whose type I cannot identify. I suspect it's something WG made up, but if it's an actual ship type I would be very interested to know. That forward secondary casemate mount is mildly reminiscent of a jet intake, and it's nothing like I've ever seen on an actual warship. NB: This is not naming-and-shaming because there are not yet any results. Is there a reward? Cause I know what this one is (possibly). Spoiler Pretty certain it's a Kawachi class, namesake or Settsu; the supporting pillars on these large masts is pretty distinctive, as is that bow casemate. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
367 black_hull4 Members 1,109 posts 1,567 battles Report post #6 Posted November 21, 2020 2 tripod masts, chrysanthemum bow ornament, brass searchlight on the foremast, wing turrets That's IJN Settsu. ♦ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,300 [SSG] WanderingGhost Alpha Tester 5,202 posts 12,101 battles Report post #7 Posted November 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: Located in the lower left below the own-player's-team list is a grounded, rusted wreck whose type I cannot identify. I suspect it's something WG made up, but if it's an actual ship type I would be very interested to know. That forward secondary casemate mount is mildly reminiscent of a jet intake, and it's nothing like I've ever seen on an actual warship Tried to get the angle similar - but that's likely Kawachii - can't find photo's of when she sunk after an accidental explosion sunk her - but the model there appears to be one of the two ships. Right mast style, turret placement and orientation, secondary's, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
481 [FOXY] Princess_Daystar Members 1,211 posts 5,765 battles Report post #8 Posted November 21, 2020 I just did a "quick"(24 minute) loop around the islands cause i actually was curious about the modeled ships there, and..none of them come close to looking like the art screen. Shame really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,139 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 7,358 posts 14,119 battles Report post #9 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Very few warships 'cruiser-and-above' were left abandoned to the elements. The Japanese were particularly astute and raising and reusing ships. But the Emden was in such a remote, unindustrialized area (at the time) that, like some of the Solomon's IJN wrecks, were nothing more than curiosities for wayward tourists. But industrialization came to Southeast Asia and all the accessible wrecks were collected up for razor blades. It may not be the Emden, but the picture was inspired by the wreck. Edited November 22, 2020 by AVR_Project Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,001 [HC] SgtBeltfed [HC] Beta Testers 3,436 posts 13,111 battles Report post #10 Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: Located in the lower left below the own-player's-team list is a grounded, rusted wreck whose type I cannot identify. I suspect it's something WG made up, but if it's an actual ship type I would be very interested to know. That forward secondary casemate mount is mildly reminiscent of a jet intake, and it's nothing like I've ever seen on an actual warship. NB: This is not naming-and-shaming because there are not yet any results. It's Kawachi as she appears in game, or it could be her sister ship Settsu. They were identical. The "Jet intake" on the side of the bow is where the forward most secondary gun is located, the odd looking recess is so the gun can elevate and depress when facing forward. It also probably meant that in anything but a flat calm, she was shipping water into those secondary guns, which was not an uncommon issue back then. Secondary's are in the correct locations, the masts are correct, as are the funnels. Kawachi was only partially dismantled after she exploded and capsized, and her hull was left as an artificial reef. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28 [WPORT] FurphyForum Members 70 posts 11,146 battles Report post #11 Posted November 22, 2020 This^^^^^ as SgtBeltfed stated, and it was one of the first batches of in-game screenies as there were only the two lines, IJN and USN - cmon Alpha and Beta testers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
317 [V_V_V] Charon2018 Members 933 posts 16,751 battles Report post #12 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Kawachi. Another view, for the ^ details, including the fore and mainmast star petals. Edited November 22, 2020 by Charon2018 add text Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
149 [DRAH] Ellyh Members 401 posts 10,056 battles Report post #13 Posted November 22, 2020 Yep its a Kawachi class. here is a photo from wikipedia clearly showing the bow gun cutout. other matching features are one forward pointing casemate battery gun with all others mounting backwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
354 [BIER] Mister_Tanman Members 269 posts 10,388 battles Report post #14 Posted November 22, 2020 Wow! Hats off to WOW for historical accuracy. They could have just made one up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,259 [CNO] Soshi_Sone [CNO] Members 6,283 posts 19,164 battles Report post #15 Posted November 22, 2020 S.S. Minnow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14,812 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 22,856 posts 16,941 battles Report post #16 Posted November 22, 2020 Thanks, all. Yeah, what threw me was the fact that in the wreck, the forward secondary casemate is so close to the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites