348 [H-T] Fog_Destroyer_Akizuki Beta Testers 2,249 posts 3,213 battles Report post #1 Posted April 7, 2015 Would be nice if we could get battles where it was say Japan only vs US or Germany Vs Britain or to keep MM sane....Axis V Allies..... Nothing like sailing next to a bunch of similar in style ships and getting to see the best of each come to play and fight..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55 Jerkster Beta Testers 430 posts 1,229 battles Report post #2 Posted April 7, 2015 I am the first one to vote there for I am with the majority of voters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
265 _Zesty_ Beta Testers 424 posts 941 battles Report post #3 Posted April 7, 2015 They tried this in World of Tanks and that failed. Considering not every ship tree will have the same characteristics, there could be unbalanced factors when determining MM. Of course this game mode will not be implemented this early since many lines are missing. However, when more nation tech trees become full and complete, I'd assume that the developers would start thinking about nation vs nation matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 [FXDEN] FlanFlanScarlet495 Beta Testers 34 posts 2,416 battles Report post #4 Posted April 7, 2015 Hopefully it wouldn't be a repeat of the long waits from the discontinued historical battle mode from WoT as the MM tries to put together the specified matches. I'm sure it's something that WG has considered for the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
348 [H-T] Fog_Destroyer_Akizuki Beta Testers 2,249 posts 3,213 battles Report post #5 Posted April 7, 2015 War Thunder uses Historical battles for this and personally it's a rather popular thing. I think pointing out WHERE things are imbalanced is a good factor in helping a game achieve fairness. Seeing the numbers on X map with IJN vs USN and seeing US win 74.8% of the time would help devs see where and what to do about things. I support it more than for Historical or nostalgic reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #6 Posted April 7, 2015 Would definitely be a nice addition to have with wows...add more content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
348 [H-T] Fog_Destroyer_Akizuki Beta Testers 2,249 posts 3,213 battles Report post #7 Posted April 7, 2015 Could have events like Midway, Guadalcanal, Leyte Gulf etc......"pit the massive steel fleets against each other.. watching the carnage of tons of steel hurtling through the air.....the kinetic physics demolishing ships....explosions and fire.....torpedoes screaming through rough tide into broken ship hulls smoke covers the crimson evening ......ahahahHAHAHAHAHAHA - (If WoWS was a Michael Bay movie) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208 [SVF] WinterIess Alpha Tester 910 posts 2,472 battles Report post #8 Posted April 7, 2015 Did someone say... Poi? (still best waifu) On serious note, No. The debacle with Nation Battles in World of Tanks proves that Wargaming isn't ready yet for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
38 [-TDR-] Moguai Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 238 posts 1,918 battles Report post #9 Posted April 7, 2015 The exact same comments were made for Historical Battles for WoT, yet It died a quick death. Also why would anyone play IJN if the USA would win 75% of the time? That is basically the same reason it died off in WoT after about 2wks. The idea is sound but only see it working with realistic Battlefields and having perfectly balanced ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
224 [DERP] von_Krimm Beta Testers 441 posts 3,769 battles Report post #10 Posted April 7, 2015 not "historical battles" but rather "historically possible" battles. like JPN vs. FRA, ITA vs. USSR, or.... JPN vs. GER!!!! people would flock to such match-ups because they are ships and not tanks; there is less differentiation of national "flavor" with ships than tanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
348 [H-T] Fog_Destroyer_Akizuki Beta Testers 2,249 posts 3,213 battles Report post #11 Posted April 7, 2015 Well to be fair............... balancing within the realm of Historical accuracy is different than significantly tailoring the play styles of certain vehicles or ships to fit special play style criteria like there are in tanks....like french heavy tanks and soviet tanks play style. Changing offensive and defensive characteristics is one thing when it is done in a philosophy of balencing historical things against each other. Changing stats to fit playstyles is a whole other thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
90 AverageCarrierMain Alpha Tester 758 posts 5,526 battles Report post #12 Posted April 7, 2015 Poi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208 [SVF] WinterIess Alpha Tester 910 posts 2,472 battles Report post #13 Posted April 7, 2015 not "historical battles" but rather "historically possible" battles. like JPN vs. FRA, ITA vs. USSR, or.... JPN vs. GER!!!! people would flock to such match-ups because they are ships and not tanks; there is less differentiation of national "flavor" with ships than tanks. The Imperials and the Nazis were actually best buds during WW2. I don't think they would willingly engage each other in battle outside of friendly wargames. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
544 [LFD] BnaditCorps Alpha Tester 3,951 posts 723 battles Report post #14 Posted April 7, 2015 it could be a team thing where you could have team 1 vs team 2 and clans could do it with inviting up to 7 players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
544 [LFD] BnaditCorps Alpha Tester 3,951 posts 723 battles Report post #15 Posted April 7, 2015 The Imperials and the Nazis were actually best buds during WW2. I don't think they would willingly engage each other in battle outside of friendly wargames. maybe if the Germany wanted complete control of the world or Japan beat the US and found out about nukes and nuked the Germans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 [BEWBS] BrokenResolve Beta Testers 6 posts 2,770 battles Report post #16 Posted April 7, 2015 It would be an interesting concept and I would like to see it work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 2020amax Members 8 posts 226 battles Report post #17 Posted April 7, 2015 Did someone say... Poi? (still best waifu) On serious note, No. The debacle with Nation Battles in World of Tanks proves that Wargaming isn't ready yet for this. still best character catch phrase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,280 [R3KT] Moksie Alpha Tester 11,714 posts 25,020 battles Report post #18 Posted April 8, 2015 No it gets the flag burners and racists bent out of shape. That's why Dev's said no a long time ago. Here to have fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
237 [TNAM] Cruiser_Yahagi Beta Testers 626 posts 4,046 battles Report post #19 Posted April 8, 2015 They did it in WoT and it failed bad so they removed it, My answer> No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
376 [KOZ] AirshipCanon Beta Testers 1,485 posts 1,192 battles Report post #20 Posted April 8, 2015 Historics work great in War Thunder, but I've read that WoT's version was abysmal.Likely wouldn't be very balanced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
933 Freecloud Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 6,298 posts 6,924 battles Report post #21 Posted April 8, 2015 Historics work great in War Thunder, but I've read that WoT's version was abysmal.Likely wouldn't be very balanced. The good news is that WoWS is more balanced than WoT since there are no glancing / bouncing shots . While this will be nice, balance will still be an issue since...well...not all navies had viable aircraft carriers (Regia Marina and Kriegsmarine)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44 Colt556 Beta Testers 542 posts 59 battles Report post #22 Posted April 8, 2015 I absolutely adore nation vs nation. It's one of the big reasons I prefer warthunder over WoWP and WoT, simply because I can get nation vs nation. So it can work, people often go "it didn't work in WoT!" but that's just because the devs [edited] it up, not because the concept is inherently flawed. They just need to try again and actually balance the ships and it'll be amazing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
146 [DSRP] OhnoesFroz Beta Testers 748 posts 2,650 battles Report post #23 Posted April 8, 2015 It's a good idea if they can make the matchmaking work. Probably a post-release thing, honestly. So for that reason I voted Poi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
120 [CRON] bzep666 Beta Testers 778 posts 11,761 battles Report post #24 Posted April 8, 2015 They tried this in World of Tanks and that failed. Considering not every ship tree will have the same characteristics, there could be unbalanced factors when determining MM. Of course this game mode will not be implemented this early since many lines are missing. However, when more nation tech trees become full and complete, I'd assume that the developers would start thinking about nation vs nation matches. If I read the poll right, we are talking nation v nation. Not historical battle. I agree with you about the historical battle mode in wot. It didnt work because there was an inherent imbalance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
268 alex08060 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,809 posts 1,670 battles Report post #25 Posted April 8, 2015 Not going to work, we will see huge number of IJN DD and CA in the MM because their superior torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
