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Why doesn't the Tirpitz have Hydro?

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As a person who loves his derpitz, I'm curious as to why it doesn't have Hydro search.

I realize its an older ship and if I remember correctly its was introduced before the German BB line but considering the Odin and other newer German BBs have it now it seems like its been forgotten.

Has WG given a reason why it hasn't been given Hydro? I'd love to know! 

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Cuz it has torps.

So Bismarck got Hydro/long range secondaries to balance it out.

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14 minutes ago, Akeno017 said:

Cuz it has torps.

So Bismarck got Hydro/long range secondaries to balance it out.

Pretty much this, it has torps. Give it hydro and it's just a better Bismark.

Tirpitz was one the original premium ships, might have been the first real premium BB (there's a reason it's called the Derpitz). Hydro on a BB was unheard of back then, and it's secondaries, while good, weren't the 11.3km monsters they are now. It got upgraded secondary range after the Germans were introduced as it was kind of dumb to have the same armament as Bismark with less range. But since she had torps she didn't get hydro.

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Now if we could only get all of those drunken sailors off the secondary guns for both Bismark and Tripitz that would make them so much better. 

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14 minutes ago, AJTP89 said:

Pretty much this, it has torps. Give it hydro and it's just a better Bismark.

Tirpitz was one the original premium ships, might have been the first real premium BB (there's a reason it's called the Derpitz). Hydro on a BB was unheard of back then, and it's secondaries, while good, weren't the 11.3km monsters they are now. It got upgraded secondary range after the Germans were introduced as it was kind of dumb to have the same armament as Bismark with less range. But since she had torps she didn't get hydro.

Warspite was the first purchasable premium battleship, and the first non-USN/IJN battleship in game. She came out when the game hit open beta. Arkansas Beta also arrived at the same time. I'm not sure when Mikasa hit the EU server, but she might pre-date Tirpitz over there. 

Tirpitz (aka Depritz) was the first tier 8 premium battleship, and she got her nickname from what happened the weekend she was released. A whole lot of people bought more ship than they could handle, and got dumped in the deep end of the pool with the tier 10's, back when having a tier 10 ship actually meant you knew what you were doing.

Probably didn't hurt that just about everyone that was playing back then had built a model of the Tirpitz when they were a kid.

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11 minutes ago, SgtBeltfed said:

Warspite was the first purchasable premium battleship, and the first non-USN/IJN battleship in game. She came out when the game hit open beta. Arkansas Beta also arrived at the same time. I'm not sure when Mikasa hit the EU server, but she might pre-date Tirpitz over there. 

 

Thanks, I knew Ark Beta was first, but you can't buy her so that doesn't really count. Didn't realize Warspite was first though, knew she was early but not Beta early. Appropriate first BB though. I don't think Mikasa was before Tirpitz, I believe she was a bit later.

Hmm, wiki says she was available in 2015 on various servers for Tsushima anniversary, but wasn't fully released until summer 2016, which puts her after Tirpitz. Guess it depends how you look at it.

And yeah, the rush of inexperienced players to T8 definitely earned it the title of Derpitz.

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36 minutes ago, AJTP89 said:

Pretty much this, it has torps. Give it hydro and it's just a better Bismark.

Tirpitz was one the original premium ships, might have been the first real premium BB (there's a reason it's called the Derpitz). Hydro on a BB was unheard of back then, and it's secondaries, while good, weren't the 11.3km monsters they are now. It got upgraded secondary range after the Germans were introduced as it was kind of dumb to have the same armament as Bismark with less range. But since she had torps she didn't get hydro.

Yeah, it's dumb to have 11km 127s on Massachusetts and Iowa, Missouri, Montana, Colorado, Kansas, Minnesota, etc.

Yep, that would have been consistent. But no. No consistent ranges.

Instead, Freddy fired cross-eyed for the better part of a year before WG sent him to the eye specialist. 

 

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55 minutes ago, Versili said:

Now if we could only get all of those drunken sailors off the secondary guns for both Bismark and Tripitz that would make them so much better. 

Have Günther Lütjens straighten them out.

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2 hours ago, AJTP89 said:

It got upgraded secondary range after the Germans were introduced as it was kind of dumb to have the same armament as Bismark with less range.

Correct...but it wasn't at the same time or even close.

Tirp had shorter AA for a long time before she finally got the buff.

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I fondly remember the buzz when Tirpitz was released. It was THE premium to have...at TIER 8!!! :Smile_ohmy:

I had been F2P for a couple of months at that point, was having a ball with the game, and figured it was time to chunk some $$ in WG's direction.  Tirpitz was my first money ever spent on WG.

Played properly, she is still a formidable ship, and well worth the cheddar$.

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3 hours ago, Terminal_Frost1 said:

but considering the Odin

Odin certainly do have hydro, and also torps... but she pays for having both of them in other ways: her guns are of much smaller caliber and have less overmatch potential, and WeeGee neutered her health pool just before her official public release.

Additionally, her guns are supposedly the same as Agir's, but have worse overall accuracy and slower reload, to boot.

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2 hours ago, SteelRain_Rifleman said:

Yeah, it's dumb to have 11km 127s on Massachusetts and Iowa, Missouri, Montana, Colorado, Kansas, Minnesota, etc.

Yep, that would have been consistent. But no. No consistent ranges.

Instead, Freddy fired cross-eyed for the better part of a year before WG sent him to the eye specialist. 

Some of that is because they're scattered between several tiers, generally, the higher the tier, the longer the range, even if it's artificial. Ignoring Massachusetts (because she's actually the USN secondary boat)  the secondary's are pretty consistent by tier. Colorado also has 5"/25's on deck and 5"/51's in casemates, so she wouldn't share gun performance with the 5"/38 equipped ships.

 

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I remember back when Tirpitz still had 4.5km secondaries. For [edited] and giggles, I hunted down enemy DDs in mass Island areas. Weird part was that it was working. I think many of them just didn't expect a battleship with short-range torps to charge at them and actually use the Torps XD

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man, would be great if Tirpitz had Hydro..... I killed many ships with her torps...... just unable to hunt hiding DD !!

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