119 [KOOKS] Fastwolf66 Beta Testers 319 posts 10,692 battles Report post #1 Posted November 4, 2020 Well... sorry, have to rage tell this... 5 containers of the Always Courageous collection, after completion the prize is a now mediocre american tier V BB. Have 3 elements of a total of 16. Open 5 RANDOM containers, each containing one element. so each one had 13/16 chance of being NOT duplicated, vs 3/16 of being duplicated. Results? obviously, 4 DUPLICATED and 1 new. The chances of that, gross, are like 81/65.536 or aprox 1/1000. So... I am really unlucky or WG really want us to complete the collection purchasing containers? I know they need money, but there are other methods, perfectly legit, to obtain money, and not laughing at the face of their customers, or playing them dumb. Like premium time, ships, captains... Sorry about the rage post but it´s really... PD: I know im not considering the not duplicated on the calculations, but was the last container so my numbers are right with the first 4 containers. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,240 [SALVO] ArIskandir Members 5,310 posts 4,551 battles Report post #2 Posted November 4, 2020 Usually you can expend duplicates to fill the missing gaps... you don't need to "draw" the missing one in particular Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119 [KOOKS] Fastwolf66 Beta Testers 319 posts 10,692 battles Report post #3 Posted November 4, 2020 Sorry, miscalculation, there were 4 containers, not 5. That changes a lot, the chances were just 27/4096, a whopping 7/1000. Now makes sense. (note the irony) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119 [KOOKS] Fastwolf66 Beta Testers 319 posts 10,692 battles Report post #4 Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, ArIskandir said: Usually you can expend duplicates to fill the missing gaps... you don't need to "draw" the missing one in particular Thanks, but here, misteriously, the rate of change is 4/1, not 1/1. Strange... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13,482 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 21,672 posts 15,719 battles Report post #5 Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fastwolf66 said: So... I am really unlucky or WG really want us to complete the collection purchasing containers? If you're willing to wait, you can get them for coal next year - they're planning to release them to the Armory in patch 0.10.5 (which should fall around July 4 2021 if my rough guess is correct). It depends on which is deeper - your patience or your wallet. Given what some people would need to cough up to ensure getting the ship, I'd be inclined to wait and get her for coal. Edited November 4, 2020 by Ensign_Cthulhu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
813 [CO-OP] HamptonRoads Members 2,033 posts 26,054 battles Report post #6 Posted November 4, 2020 The only way to determine this is if we can get more people to post their container distribution. As of right now, you might be one of the 7 unfortunate players in 1000 that got 4 duplicates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13,482 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 21,672 posts 15,719 battles Report post #7 Posted November 4, 2020 I have three dups so far, but I'd have to get home and log into the game before I could tell you how many boxes I'd opened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,872 [O_O] Khafni [O_O] Members 5,081 posts 22,645 battles Report post #8 Posted November 4, 2020 Eight boxes, so far, with 5 unique items and 3 dupes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,872 [O_O] Khafni [O_O] Members 5,081 posts 22,645 battles Report post #9 Posted November 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, Fastwolf66 said: Thanks, but here, misteriously, the rate of change is 4/1, not 1/1. Strange... Those rates of exchange have changed between different collections from 1/1 to 5/1. I assume the rate is based on the potential number of container drops compared to the number of items to be collected. It isn't consistent nor guaranteed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
316 [-TCO-] SkullCowboy_60 [-TCO-] Members 615 posts 5,487 battles Report post #10 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Fastwolf66 said: Well... sorry, have to rage tell this... 5 containers of the Always Courageous collection, after completion the prize is a now mediocre american tier V BB. Have 3 elements of a total of 16. Open 5 RANDOM containers, each containing one element. so each one had 13/16 chance of being NOT duplicated, vs 3/16 of being duplicated. Results? obviously, 4 DUPLICATED and 1 new. The chances of that, gross, are like 81/65.536 or aprox 1/1000. So... I am really unlucky or WG really want us to complete the collection purchasing containers? I know they need money, but there are other methods, perfectly legit, to obtain money, and not laughing at the face of their customers, or playing them dumb. Like premium time, ships, captains... Sorry about the rage post but it´s really... PD: I know im not considering the not duplicated on the calculations, but was the last container so my numbers are right with the first 4 containers. So, had 3 pieces and opened 5 containers. All 5 were new. I guess I got your luck reversed. Or I cheated. Somehow. Since then I pulled three dupes in a row. <shrug> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
687 [WOLF5] Patton5150 Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 2,934 posts 46,869 battles Report post #11 Posted November 4, 2020 7 containers opened. 2 duplicates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
483 [WKY13] Spirit_of_76 Members 535 posts 11,123 battles Report post #12 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Khafni said: Eight boxes, so far, with 5 unique items and 3 dupes. I think I’m 4 with 2 dupes out of six boxes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,721 [RKLES] dEsTurbed1 [RKLES] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,264 posts 21,678 battles Report post #13 Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Fastwolf66 said: Well... sorry, have to rage tell this... 5 containers of the Always Courageous collection, after completion the prize is a now mediocre american tier V BB. Have 3 elements of a total of 16. Open 5 RANDOM containers, each containing one element. so each one had 13/16 chance of being NOT duplicated, vs 3/16 of being duplicated. Results? obviously, 4 DUPLICATED and 1 new. The chances of that, gross, are like 81/65.536 or aprox 1/1000. So... I am really unlucky or WG really want us to complete the collection purchasing containers? I know they need money, but there are other methods, perfectly legit, to obtain money, and not laughing at the face of their customers, or playing them dumb. Like premium time, ships, captains... Sorry about the rage post but it´s really... PD: I know im not considering the not duplicated on the calculations, but was the last container so my numbers are right with the first 4 containers. It only takes 1 duplicate to buy 1 you don't have.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
187 [ARC] hanesco Members 1,009 posts 11,176 battles Report post #14 Posted November 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, dEsTurbed1 said: It only takes 1 duplicate to buy 1 you don't have.... This collection requires 4 duplicates to get one element you don't have. The exchange rate is not fixed, it always changes depending on the availability of the containers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
164 [TFFOX] AdmiralFox08 Members 801 posts 1,696 battles Report post #15 Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: If you're willing to wait, you can get them for coal next year - they're planning to release them to the Armory in patch 0.10.5 (which should fall around July 4 2021 if my rough guess is correct). It depends on which is deeper - your patience or your wallet. Given what some people would need to cough up to ensure getting the ship, I'd be inclined to wait and get her for coal. blah. i can wait. there's no way i'm spending $$$ on a slower NY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
47 [JAMFO] WhenThereWereGiants71 Members 36 posts 4,222 battles Report post #16 Posted November 4, 2020 Amen !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,208 [A-D-F] Burnsy Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,015 posts Report post #17 Posted November 4, 2020 What is "rage tell"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
316 [-TCO-] SkullCowboy_60 [-TCO-] Members 615 posts 5,487 battles Report post #18 Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Burnsy said: What is "rage tell"? Angry poker face? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
859 [4HIM] Morpheous [4HIM] Beta Testers 2,072 posts 15,082 battles Report post #19 Posted November 4, 2020 12 opened....no duplicates...............................sorry trolling hard.........................none opened no duplicated....though in game I am 4 for 4 for uniques :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,389 [INTEL] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 37,320 battles Report post #20 Posted November 4, 2020 The rule is pretty simple. Don't buy the containers. You will get more than enough in-game, and if not, just wait til the containers come to the armory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
138 [GGWP] rhulkb27 Members 137 posts Report post #21 Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Don't gamble on these containers, especially for this collection; Oklahoma is a subpar ship and is very easy to obtain for free. If you really want it just wait for the containers to come to the armory for coal. Edited November 4, 2020 by rhulkb27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,846 [WOLFG] DrHolmes52 Members 10,664 posts 9,886 battles Report post #22 Posted November 5, 2020 Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 SoothingWhaleSongEU Members 202 posts 25 battles Report post #23 Posted November 7, 2020 I've had very good luck so far. 10 containers opened, 9/16 with 1 duplicate. I don't expect this to persist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
