Nuclear Mark 23 on 16inch guns?

[Ajatcho]

well just having a reseach on the Iowa-class on her 16in and it can load a nuclear shell on it well can hardly imagine if that shell well be in the game it can oblitarate anything it see

 

 

Shell	AP Mark 8: 2,700 lb. (1,225 kg) HC Mark 13: 1,900 lb. (862 kg) Nuclear Mark 23: 1,900 lb. (862 kg)
Caliber	16 in (406 mm)
Muzzle velocity	AP: 2,500 ft/s (762 m/s) HC & Nuclear: 2,690 ft/s (820 m/s)
Maximum firing range	23.64 mi (38 km)

 

 

[BnaditCorps]

Iowa and Montana could fire it now imagine that the mighty Yamato sunk by a nuke 

 

 

[Kookaburras]

It was an April's fools joke once. 

 

http://blog.worldofwarships.com/hitting-the-enemy-with-nuclear-shells/

[J30_Reinhardt]

*sigh*

 

Maximum targetting range of 23 miles and you didn't think to notice that it'd be essentially nuking itself?

[BravoBigBoom]

It was an April's fools joke once. 

 

http://blog.worldofwarships.com/hitting-the-enemy-with-nuclear-shells/

 

I still remembered that part of joke

[BnaditCorps]

 

I still remembered that part of joke

 

lol

[AirshipCanon]

*sigh*

 

Maximum targetting range of 23 miles and you didn't think to notice that it'd be essentially nuking itself?

 

The Mark 23 Nuclear Shell isn't a Thermonuke-- it's the Naval Rifle version of the Atomic Annie M65 Nuclear Artillery shell (It's just padded to fit the 16 inch main guns on the Iowas-- as the M65 is an 11 inch gun, shell's too small).

It's a 15.2Kt Fission Nuke. [Here's a video of it (err, rather the M65)] being fired during Shot Grable:

 

For a little point, that's got a "Danger Zone" radius of 7 Miles (outside of which all you see is mushroom cloud, no harm (outside of fallout from a surface burst) unless you're looking into the light with your naked eyes, which is like looking at the sun, bad idea]. [it's more like 4-5, as Hiroshima demonstrated] 

 

23 mile dangerzone? You're gonna need some Megatonnage to do that. [Particularly about 4MT]

 

So no, it wouldn't nuke itself very well, unless fired far too close. The shot would flip a Battleship over if it "Missed" and went off underwater though. (Baker, finally killed that dang Nagato, flipped over Arkansas)

 

Now here's a look at vs. World of Warships.

Since this isn't Warthunder and the damage model wouldn't reflect a Nuke's deadly Base Surge [this is what would kill with a Nuclear detonation, outside of very near hits that crush with an aquatic shockwave known as "the slick" (or the aquatic fireball which'll flip over a Battleship even)-- a deadly wash of irradiated water that would kill everyone on board the vessel, rather than just sink her outright [see Prinz Eugen's fate]] that component can safely be ignored.

 

 

That's a map/satellite image of a visualization of the shell in question near a famous naval battle site [and seriously why are you even here if you don't recognize Midway]. That... is a fair bit smaller than a WoWS map (assuming the sizing from the aforementioned April Fool's joke about being able to load these is correct) [24x37Km vs 50x50Km] and already the damage area isn't that terribly spectacular.

The outer ring there is the previously mentioned "No Damage" ring. Green is where you're getting the deadly radiation and the base surge. The Gray is shockwave. The red and inner are very high pressure [with the yellow-orange as the fireball itself].

...Even the might of Nuclear arms isn't going to be instant wins against entire teams unless they're Charlie Foxtrotting that hard, but it'd be a frightening 1 v 1 weapon indeed.

Now that assumes 1 shell. [Which given it can instantly win any duel ever is enough to make it too overpowered (as fun as having an actual nuke might be)]

 

The Mark 23 would, in actuality likely be loaded into multiple cannons, rather than just 1 gun- which, given the Iowa's 9 guns [or in theory the Montana's 12] would make for a very bad day for the enemy-- if you could independently target the turrets, you could lob 3-4 triples of Nukes at various targets, it'd spread some real heavy instant-kill damage around.

 

[BravoBigBoom]

 

The Mark 23 Nuclear Shell isn't a Thermonuke-- it's the Naval Rifle version of the Atomic Annie M65 Nuclear Artillery shell (It's just padded to fit the 16 inch main guns on the Iowas-- as the M65 is an 11 inch gun, shell's too small).

It's a 15.2Kt Fission Nuke. [Here's a video of it (err, rather the M65)] being fired during Shot Grable:

 

For a little point, that's got a "Danger Zone" radius of 7 Miles (outside of which all you see is mushroom cloud, no harm (outside of fallout from a surface burst) unless you're looking into the light with your naked eyes, which is like looking at the sun, bad idea]. [it's more like 4-5, as Hiroshima demonstrated] 

 

23 mile dangerzone? You're gonna need some Megatonnage to do that. [Particularly about 4MT]

 

So no, it wouldn't nuke itself very well, unless fired far too close. The shot would flip a Battleship over if it "Missed" and went off underwater though. (Baker, finally killed that dang Nagato, flipped over Arkansas)

 

Good explanation

Although Nagato was sunk because leaking & couldn't be pumped & it was SO Radioactive 

[Sniper061]

*sigh*

 

Maximum targetting range of 23 miles and you didn't think to notice that it'd be essentially nuking itself?

 

Actually even larger yield nuclear weapons (1 megaton) really only cause damage out to about 3 1/2 miles or 8-10 kilometers.  You would be quite safe at 23 miles.