2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #1 Posted October 30, 2020 I was in the New Orleans (which granted does not have the best armor) and had full HP and was lobbing shots from behind an island. In about two minutes, I was detected by the Enterprise, and when I saw that it was coming for me I started to back up, deploy my fighters, and selected my priority sector. The Enterprise still got its full attacks off and with only 2 hits I went from 100 % hp to around 5 %. For the most part I can deal with CV's, but this absolute megaton of damage is insane. I have heard that the Enterprise is insanely broken, but I find it amazing that it has stayed like this for so long. I honestly liked the old CV UI better, although maybe you should have the option to go FPV in a ship and lead like that. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,172 [-WD-] dad003 Members 1,218 posts 16,889 battles Report post #2 Posted October 30, 2020 here the thing if Big E hit you with only 2 ap bomb it only 12k not all your HP you probably got blapped my another ship ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,919 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 17,955 posts 32,155 battles Report post #3 Posted October 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, dad003 said: here the thing if Big E hit you with only 2 ap bomb it only 12k not all your HP you probably got blapped my another ship ... I’d love to just get two hits. For all some claim the new FPS carriers are ‘easy’ to use; I personally find that to be far, far from true. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
197 [BEA5T] Noworriesderpy1 Members 610 posts 22,014 battles Report post #4 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dad003 said: here the thing if Big E hit you with only 2 ap bomb it only 12k not all your HP you probably got blapped my another ship ... Big E been nerfed to where its 3 plane attack 2 bombs per plane are only 4900 per bomb. 9 plane squadron.... it would be possible if somehow they managed to score at least 4 + hits being the stock New Orleans hits points are kinda real low 29K. The detailed report page should be able to tell how much damage the ship took by Bombs. This is from the CV side which shows how much damage I placed upon a particular ship. Even though I hit that particular ship with 8 bombs but only did 20580 damage. Edited October 30, 2020 by Noworriesderpy1 add Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,274 [WG] Ahskance Administrator 4,619 posts 15,749 battles Report post #5 Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Noworriesderpy1 said: Big E been nerfed to where its 3 plane attack 2 bombs per plane are only 4900 per bomb. 9 plane squadron.... it would be possible if somehow they managed to score at least 4 + hits being the stock New Orleans hits points are kinda real low 29K. The detailed report page should be able to tell how much damage the ship took by Bombs. This is from the CV side which shows how much damage I placed upon a particular ship. Even though I hit that particular ship with 8 bombs but only did 20580 damage. The OP didn't say what planes were used against him. Rockets could do 7-9k a strike, but that's not 95% of his hull. Unless he ate 6 torps from two drops, I'm really unsure what could have happened. It's more likely he got spotted and someone shot him with shells while he was lit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 shinytrashcan Members 1,870 posts Report post #6 Posted October 30, 2020 Guess something else hit the OP at the same time, happened to me before. Sometimes it is more the spotting and the fact you have to move that ultimately kills you, though the CV damage does not help... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,883 [YORHA] JCC45 Members 5,460 posts 11,504 battles Report post #7 Posted October 30, 2020 As always I suppose posting the replay would be out of the question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,035 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #8 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, shinytrashcan said: Guess something else hit the OP at the same time, happened to me before. Sometimes it is more the spotting and the fact you have to move that ultimately kills you, though the CV damage does not help... Especially if, as the OP stated, your movement is only backing up. NO can't afford to be a low-speed target. What the OP should have done, was not park so that he had to back up to move, and been on the move before the CV spotted him. It's like being a sniper in an FPS. If the enemy knows where you are, even if they can't see you, it's only a matter of time until something nasty comes for you. (and here, because of tracers, it's easy to figure out where you are) And once they find you..... It's like the old pilots' maxim, speed is life. Edited October 30, 2020 by Skpstr 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,877 [S0L0] iRA6E Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,432 posts 9,030 battles Report post #9 Posted October 30, 2020 Yea..... didn't happen as OP states.. Not saying Enterprise can't dump a New Orleans pretty badly, but not on 2 AP bomb hits... I have a feeling something else struck it simultaneously? I'm just glad to know someone else can hit anything with the AP bombs anymore.. because I can't make anything but the rockets on that thing work anymore. Sadly the premium CVs have all taken a pretty good thrashing with all the ninja "bugs, fixes and reticle "improvements" over the last two patches... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
998 [WOLF7] HamAndCheez Members 1,319 posts Report post #10 Posted October 30, 2020 10 hours ago, JaegerKhan said: I was in the New Orleans (which granted does not have the best armor) and had full HP and was lobbing shots from behind an island. In about two minutes, I was detected by the Enterprise, and when I saw that it was coming for me I started to back up, deploy my fighters, and selected my priority sector. The Enterprise still got its full attacks off and with only 2 hits I went from 100 % hp to around 5 %. For the most part I can deal with CV's, but this absolute megaton of damage is insane. I have heard that the Enterprise is insanely broken, but I find it amazing that it has stayed like this for so long. I honestly liked the old CV UI better, although maybe you should have the option to go FPV in a ship and lead like that. Here's an interesting question to ask yourself as a thought experiment: If you had been citadelled by a Tirpitz or Massa in this match that took you from 100% to 5%, would you have made a post about it on the forum? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
971 Rouxi Members 2,070 posts 13,070 battles Report post #11 Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, HamAndCheez said: Here's an interesting question to ask yourself as a thought experiment: If you had been citadelled by a Tirpitz or Massa in this match that took you from 100% to 5%, would you have made a post about it on the forum? I can hide from a BB, can't hide from a CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,122 [TARK] Daniel_Allan_Clark Members 7,331 posts 4,029 battles Report post #12 Posted October 30, 2020 I have noted instances where CV ordinance did MORE damage than it should... ...but without replay or stat page we cant be sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,832 [BONKS] El2aZeR Members 4,186 posts 52 battles Report post #13 Posted October 30, 2020 I would assume that with "2 hits" OP means taking 2 full attacks, otherwise what he's describing is simply not possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
749 [KENT] S_H_O_C_K_W_A_V_E Members 1,160 posts 9,422 battles Report post #14 Posted October 30, 2020 12 hours ago, JaegerKhan said: I was in the New Orleans (which granted does not have the best armor) and had full HP and was lobbing shots from behind an island. In about two minutes, I was detected by the Enterprise, and when I saw that it was coming for me I started to back up, deploy my fighters, and selected my priority sector. The Enterprise still got its full attacks off and with only 2 hits I went from 100 % hp to around 5 %. For the most part I can deal with CV's, but this absolute megaton of damage is insane. I have heard that the Enterprise is insanely broken, but I find it amazing that it has stayed like this for so long. I honestly liked the old CV UI better, although maybe you should have the option to go FPV in a ship and lead like that. Humph. Sounds like Dive Bombers to me. Enterprise DBs have 4,900 damage per bomb, with six bombs per attack from three aircraft. Those things pack a nasty punch and can even leave battleships severely crippled with just a few good runs. If you can't take my word for it, just ask @El2aZeR, the resident Enterprise spammer, and he'll tell you everything -Shrayes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
935 [CONS] The_Pig_of_PIGs [CONS] Members 1,344 posts 8,179 battles Report post #15 Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 4:32 AM, JaegerKhan said: I was in the New Orleans (which granted does not have the best armor) and had full HP and was lobbing shots from behind an island. In about two minutes, I was detected by the Enterprise, and when I saw that it was coming for me I started to back up, deploy my fighters, and selected my priority sector. The Enterprise still got its full attacks off and with only 2 hits I went from 100 % hp to around 5 %. For the most part I can deal with CV's, but this absolute megaton of damage is insane. I have heard that the Enterprise is insanely broken, but I find it amazing that it has stayed like this for so long. I honestly liked the old CV UI better, although maybe you should have the option to go FPV in a ship and lead like that. Oink! Mmmhhhh... Goltz !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,939 Spud_butt Members 2,445 posts 8,466 battles Report post #16 Posted October 31, 2020 with nearly 50 Random battles in CVs, including a couple since the rebork, i am fully capable of answering any and all questions pertaining to the new CV meta. am currently available, ask away!! spud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #17 Posted December 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 2:42 AM, shinytrashcan said: Guess something else hit the OP at the same time, happened to me before. Sometimes it is more the spotting and the fact you have to move that ultimately kills you, though the CV damage does not help... Hello OP here: There was nobody else shooting me. I was behind an island and the whole other team was on the other side of said island. One seconed im at full HP, and one second I am blapped for half hp. The next second after that, im dead. (I also only had one priority target indicator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #18 Posted December 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 10:42 AM, El2aZeR said: I would assume that with "2 hits" OP means taking 2 full attacks, otherwise what he's describing is simply not possible. Yeah 2 full attacks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #19 Posted December 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 10:07 AM, HamAndCheez said: Here's an interesting question to ask yourself as a thought experiment: If you had been citadelled by a Tirpitz or Massa in this match that took you from 100% to 5%, would you have made a post about it on the forum? No, because it would have made sense. If i was broadside, then yes my broadside is quite squishy and I would take multiple cits, and I would not complain because I would be an idiot. But even when I had my fighters up and my AA sectors, the CV still got 2 full attacks away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #20 Posted December 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 8:04 AM, JCC45 said: As always I suppose posting the replay would be out of the question? Yeah I kinda forgot to do that before 30 seconds later was up sorry about that. On 10/30/2020 at 10:24 AM, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: I have noted instances where CV ordinance did MORE damage than it should... ...but without replay or stat page we cant be sure. Yeah sorry abt that, kinda realized I should have recorded it it was too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
581 Telastyn Members 820 posts 19,340 battles Report post #21 Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, JaegerKhan said: No, because it would have made sense. If i was broadside, then yes my broadside is quite squishy and I would take multiple cits, and I would not complain because I would be an idiot. But even when I had my fighters up and my AA sectors, the CV still got 2 full attacks away. But you were backing up... doing maybe 10kts in a straight line. Even marginal CV drivers will hammer you with DBs in that situation. And good CV drivers will use the island for cover, negating your AA sector, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #22 Posted December 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 8:14 AM, Skpstr said: Especially if, as the OP stated, your movement is only backing up. NO can't afford to be a low-speed target. What the OP should have done, was not park so that he had to back up to move, and been on the move before the CV spotted him. It's like being a sniper in an FPS. If the enemy knows where you are, even if they can't see you, it's only a matter of time until something nasty comes for you. (and here, because of tracers, it's easy to figure out where you are) And once they find you..... It's like the old pilots' maxim, speed is life. This is true, I could have/should have done that. What I wanted to do was take it one ship at a time as they came into field of view so im not focused for being the only t7 in a t9 battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #23 Posted December 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 9:06 AM, iRA6E said: Yea..... didn't happen as OP states.. Not saying Enterprise can't dump a New Orleans pretty badly, but not on 2 AP bomb hits... I have a feeling something else struck it simultaneously? I'm just glad to know someone else can hit anything with the AP bombs anymore.. because I can't make anything but the rockets on that thing work anymore. Sadly the premium CVs have all taken a pretty good thrashing with all the ninja "bugs, fixes and reticle "improvements" over the last two patches... Ummm it kinda was how I started lol. Nothing else hit me but the CV. I think u got confused on the "2 hits", it wasn't only 2 bombs it was 2 squads that got full bombs awat. My bad for not being clear on that though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [TOTO] JaegerKhan Members 10 posts 2,672 battles Report post #24 Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Telastyn said: But you were backing up... doing maybe 10kts in a straight line. Even marginal CV drivers will hammer you with DBs in that situation. And good CV drivers will use the island for cover, negating your AA sector, Right, I should not have gone up against that islnad as close as I did. My point is that the Cv got through AA, fighters and some other AA prob and still got 2 full attacks away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,035 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #25 Posted December 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, JaegerKhan said: This is true, I could have/should have done that. What I wanted to do was take it one ship at a time as they came into field of view so im not focused for being the only t7 in a t9 battle. That's fair. You just have to balance that out by thinking about what you're going to do when you start firing and get spotted. Although, I can talk about thinking logically and critically here on the forums, but that often goes out the window in battle lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
