47 [JAMFO] WhenThereWereGiants71 Members 36 posts 4,242 battles Report post #1 Posted October 21, 2020 Ok, I wish I would have gone to YouTube before buying the latest Failure to Perform Bucket. HMS Cheshire. I thought I would have learned my lesson when I bought the Freswhatever. 77$ that lesson. The newest member of my Targets for you all HMS Cheshire. 99 bucks for this mistake. WG master control, yep another great target to be sunk and sunk quick. I will promise myself from now on, to tune in to Youtube. Please do not buy this sailing target. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,187 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 6,772 posts 16,218 battles Report post #2 Posted October 21, 2020 So you didn't only buy the ship, you bought the mega-fat, dollar sucking bundle? Ouch. The lessons we learn and keep with us forever tend to be the lessons that stung the most. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39 Carlos_Mendozariquez Members 37 posts 208 battles Report post #3 Posted October 22, 2020 The changes to the CC program removing the ability to let you know a turd in inbound is working well it seems. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
341 [VORTX] Pirate_Named_Sue Members 422 posts 6,333 battles Report post #4 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) Ugh sorry man. Last turd I bought was Cali. I knew it was a turd before buying though. A few beers later and click click went the mouse ... Edited October 22, 2020 by Fifi_Macaffee 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
41 [POSM] jwatt_ Members 139 posts 1,994 battles Report post #5 Posted October 22, 2020 That’s rough man, I’m sorry. I bought just the ship, and I’ve actually been enjoying it so far. Over 17 games not a great win rate so far only 47%, but damage is ok at 70k. It’s not exactly an easy ship, but if you can stay alive past the first part of the game it does well, this ship takes time to get the damage in with only 6 guns. I run propulsion mod and the rudder mod instead of the concealment, go bow away and just be an annoying AF target to hit. Use the superheal to deal with the pens and random citadels you’re going to eat, take advantage of adrenaline rush and surprise people with your high hp in the late game. You have a flat a$$, so don’t let shells hit you directly there or it’s going to go right through and prob citadel. I can send you a replay of what I mean if you want, best of luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,378 Wombatmetal Members 4,302 posts 3,255 battles Report post #6 Posted October 22, 2020 Caveat Emptor. All the pertinent information was out there on the Cheshire some time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,454 [WOLFC] DocWalker Members 3,092 posts Report post #7 Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Innkeeper70 said: .... 99 bucks for this mistake. .... Ouch! Repeat after me ... "My name is Innkeeper --- and I'm a Warshipaholic" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
834 [SAINT] Jolly_Rodgered [SAINT] Members 1,470 posts 17,830 battles Report post #8 Posted October 22, 2020 I feel your pain. I just bought the Munched, as in citadel gets munched on every game, and am struggling as well. My mistake only cost me twenty something bucks with the 30% coupon but still, I get it. Sorry, you spent so much. We should form a support club or something. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
103 [DMOD] Premeditated_Marder Members 181 posts 9,521 battles Report post #9 Posted October 22, 2020 Or these forums... https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/217707-premium-ship-review-144-cheshire/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,311 [A-I-M] Pugilistic Members 3,556 posts 23,348 battles Report post #10 Posted October 22, 2020 Every review calls it a dog. Flamu, LWM.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,939 [WDS] clammboy [WDS] Members 3,913 posts 11,672 battles Report post #11 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Innkeeper70 said: Ok, I wish I would have gone to YouTube before buying the latest Failure to Perform Bucket. HMS Cheshire. I thought I would have learned my lesson when I bought the Freswhatever. 77$ that lesson. The newest member of my Targets for you all HMS Cheshire. 99 bucks for this mistake. WG master control, yep another great target to be sunk and sunk quick. I will promise myself from now on, to tune in to Youtube. Please do not buy this sailing target. Why buy the bundle ??? Edited October 22, 2020 by clammboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,693 SteelRain_Rifleman Members 3,436 posts 40,926 battles Report post #12 Posted October 22, 2020 My advice OP is before you consider a ship in the premium shop or an event, to use the search function of the forums for topics related to the ship. Consider the source of the information posted of course, but usually there are quite a few players that probably know the ship you search. And some even have dedicated research on it like LWM. But this is resource information only if you don't watch Twitch or YouTube. Because there are lots of players that probably get the ship that stream, either because they can afford it, or because they actually like the ship. A non-CC streamer can be far more objective too. Because they are very experienced in their own ways based on ships they like. And opinions vary. But ask any of them during their streams about any of the ships. Especially those streamers that are proficient in the type you are looking for. And it is the streamer that will do a demonstration and also a detailed account of the tactics employed in combat, who will help you effectively piay the ship and not struggle with it. Research always helps a player with that decision. But consulting a streamer that shows how to use the ship will really be helpful. So, OP, every player has that one or two moments of getting a ship and it seems you will never make it work. Most players here do their homework and also in game, they frequently ask players that sail the ship their opinions. I am often asked because I am a BB main. But I am also asked for other ships too, because I like trying them all. I often explain the merits and the limitations of the ship. But I am not the only player that has this experience. In this forum, we actually have many. If you have been in the game long enough, then you probably know a few that might be helpful about certain ships and can give you an impartial assessment. Just bear in mind, every player is different. Your standard for credibility is number of battles in a mode you prefer, the ship you are interested in, the damage output that appeals to you, and whether they will actually sincerely give you an answer without being rude to you. These players will often be able to help and they are often well respected by other players, even if they are often of differing opinions and passions about how to play ships. It's the fact that despite the ability to agree to disagree, these players still interact with each other. It's mutual respect. If you like watching streams I urge you to ask streamers that intrigue you, for advice. And don't be afraid to consult more than one. Because if you just watch one, you only see one aspect, but not the whole picture of ships.. You should average 3-4 go to streamers that are deemed reliable and also enjoyable to watch. But also because you have to time manage the broadcasts. Start out checking them all out and eventually you will narrow it down. Also some streamers network really well with others and often know someone that can help you. Now you might not like watching streams, and that is your choice. But the forums will help, but it takes longer to learn. Watching streamers is faster. It saves you time. I hope this helps. Good luck 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
995 [WOLFC] Nevermore135 Members 2,007 posts 10,436 battles Report post #13 Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Carlos_Mendozariquez said: The changes to the CC program removing the ability to let you know a turd in inbound is working well it seems. This ship was released months ago, so all the pertinent information was freely available. In fact, the changes to the policy surrounding ships in testing ensures that the available videos and other content describes the release version of the ship and not an earlier, different version during testing, so the available information is more accurate than what was seen for ships before the rule change. I can understand someone’s annoyance with the change (even though I agree with it), but to claim that it somehow is to blame for the OP’s situation is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
918 Farm_Fresh_Eggs Members 661 posts Report post #14 Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Innkeeper70 said: Ok, I wish I would have gone to YouTube before buying the latest Failure to Perform Bucket. HMS Cheshire. I thought I would have learned my lesson when I bought the Freswhatever. 77$ that lesson. The newest member of my Targets for you all HMS Cheshire. 99 bucks for this mistake. WG master control, yep another great target to be sunk and sunk quick. I will promise myself from now on, to tune in to Youtube. Please do not buy this sailing target. It's all good. It's only a mistake if you cant afford $100. We dont always get good ships. Even if others think it's great, sometimes ship doesnt work for me. Plus, it's never a loss in the sense that this game is always in a state of flux and the game may change in a way that the ship you thoug was junk becomes a goto fun favorite. Mikasa was my largest disappointment - until they added bots to Random. Now, you can farm bots with Mikasa secondaries and rack up huge XP. (Until WeeGee decides to cut off that gravy train) I was clowned hard for buying the Puerto Rico last Christmas. ( You paid $250 for a ship worse than alaska? Buhahhahaha!! Didnt you see the CC's tell you the alaska was better and you bought it anyway? Wow.... ect....) 10 months later and all the controversy a distant memory - Now, ppl want the ship and are pissed WeeGee wont brink it back. Point is, you'll get lots of people telling you how 'wrong' or 'stupid' you are for doing whatever. Just ignore those posts. It's far better to get something you want. If there was a mistake OP, it was venting your frustration in the forum and feeding the misanthrope trolls. Good luck on your next premium! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 [MOEKA] AiRStYL3 Members 20 posts 5,499 battles Report post #15 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Fifi_Macaffee said: Ugh sorry man. Last turd I bought was Cali. I knew it was a turd before buying though. A few beers later and click click went the mouse ... thats how i got all my premium ships Edited October 22, 2020 by AiRStYL3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
879 [REVY] Lord_Slayer Members 2,507 posts 13,460 battles Report post #16 Posted October 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Wombatmetal said: Caveat Emptor. All the pertinent information was out there on the Cheshire some time ago. 7 hours ago, Nevermore135 said: This ship was released months ago, so all the pertinent information was freely available. In fact, the changes to the policy surrounding ships in testing ensures that the available videos and other content describes the release version of the ship and not an earlier, different version during testing, so the available information is more accurate than what was seen for ships before the rule change. I can understand someone’s annoyance with the change (even though I agree with it), but to claim that it somehow is to blame for the OP’s situation is ridiculous. ^^^ This is the second lap for Cheshire. A quick search of the forums turned up several people who disliked the thing. Sorry Op, but this is on you for not researching the ship before dropping coin on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13,523 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 21,721 posts 15,757 battles Report post #17 Posted October 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Carlos_Mendozariquez said: The changes to the CC program removing the ability to let you know a turd in inbound is working well it seems. Sorry, no. Not relevant here. The Cheshire was released months ago, and Little White Mouse has had a review out on it for ages. The last time they pulled it from the shop, nobody mourned its going. OP is, to their credit, admitting they failed to do their due diligence and reminding others not fail how they did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
64 [WOLF9] S7CentNickel Members 390 posts Report post #18 Posted October 22, 2020 I always wait & see how these pixels behave. There will be time enough to spend your $ if you really want it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13,523 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 21,721 posts 15,757 battles Report post #19 Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, S7CentNickel said: I always wait & see how these pixels behave. Bad pixel! Bad! No treat for you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,974 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,737 posts Report post #20 Posted October 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Innkeeper70 said: Let Yuro show you how. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,836 [BASIN] shadowsrmine [BASIN] Members 4,337 posts 16,776 battles Report post #21 Posted October 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Innkeeper70 said: Ok, I wish I would have gone to YouTube before buying the latest Failure to Perform Bucket. HMS Cheshire. I thought I would have learned my lesson when I bought the Freswhatever. 77$ that lesson. The newest member of my Targets for you all HMS Cheshire. 99 bucks for this mistake. WG master control, yep another great target to be sunk and sunk quick. I will promise myself from now on, to tune in to Youtube. Please do not buy this sailing target. My sympathys I've stopped buying any new ships,At this point only working to get resource ships(coal)Thunderer,Black and Maybe Flintand on a much more limited basis RP points 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,313 [0456] _ENO_ Members 3,824 posts 10,091 battles Report post #22 Posted October 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Fifi_Macaffee said: Ugh sorry man. Last turd I bought was Cali. I knew it was a turd before buying though. A few beers later and click click went the mouse ... Got a few port queens on account of this... My latest one night stand was Florida. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
311 [TRU] mpwardawg Members 696 posts 20,173 battles Report post #23 Posted October 22, 2020 13 hours ago, Innkeeper70 said: Ok, I wish I would have gone to YouTube before buying the latest Failure to Perform Bucket. HMS Cheshire. I thought I would have learned my lesson when I bought the Freswhatever. 77$ that lesson. The newest member of my Targets for you all HMS Cheshire. 99 bucks for this mistake. WG master control, yep another great target to be sunk and sunk quick. I will promise myself from now on, to tune in to Youtube. Please do not buy this sailing target. I can't comment on the Cheshire as I don't have it....... But you don't like the Friesland? Granted mine was "free" thanks to having the gold XP, but I love that ship. You should give it another try and use the awesome smoke/guns/hydro/AA to your advantage. Having no torps forces a different but fun play style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,673 [POP] Cruxdei Beta Testers 4,735 posts 7,019 battles Report post #24 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) even flamu hated it,not because of the gun or damage,but because the ship somehow gets innacurate at medium ranges Edited October 22, 2020 by Cruxdei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
485 [5D2] Dr_Drunk_AKA Members 430 posts 10,425 battles Report post #25 Posted October 22, 2020 I think what we're overlooking here is this guy calling the Friesland a turd. Questionable comment is questionable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
