151 [DANTO] VaygrEmpire Beta Testers 206 posts 6,955 battles Report post #1 Posted October 18, 2020 we have fake ships in game anyway, so why not give USA nice present? USS Hornet with Doolittle Raiders - B25 - and skip bombing. Bunch of B25s destroyed Amatsukaze - escort dd - near China in April 1945 via skip bombing. I want to fly historically accurate heavy bomber but on cv. It'd have strafing (or rockets) attackers, skip bombing instead of torp bombers, and HE bombers. Please? 1 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
287 [WOLFG] Falls_USMC [WOLFG] Members 982 posts 9,124 battles Report post #2 Posted October 18, 2020 As soon as they announced the USS Hornet and skip bombing this was the FIRST thing I thought of. WG, seriously. This will absolutely print money on NA. I haven't bought a premium in years but if they did this my credit card would melt I would buy it so fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,234 [A-D-F] Burnsy Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,044 posts Report post #3 Posted October 18, 2020 Skip bombing is in internal testing right now. I imagine the ship is in the plans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,383 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 8,304 posts 12,206 battles Report post #4 Posted October 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, Falls_USMC said: As soon as they announced the USS Hornet and skip bombing this was the FIRST thing I thought of. when was the USS Hornet announced? that wouldve been all over the forums by now if it was 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,409 [IRNBN] Balon_Greyjoy Members 3,699 posts 10,762 battles Report post #5 Posted October 18, 2020 You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
935 [OIL-1] z9_ Members 1,291 posts Report post #6 Posted October 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: You really want planes that can't come back? Depends on the firepower! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
140 [WOLF1] Boomer625 Members 518 posts 1,410 battles Report post #7 Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, z9_ said: Depends on the firepower! TBH i would prefer B29’s with nuke payloads Doolittle raid style from a pancaked Midway (no superstructure) Grand Slam! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49 [WOLF1] JTninja Members 109 posts 5,723 battles Report post #8 Posted October 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? Yes Like in '42, after the B-25s are launched, the normal carrier aircraft can be brought up from the hanger deck. Maybe there's a significant delay during gameplay in loading the flight deck, or a reduced number of planes that can be used after the B-25s. But completely doable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308 [TDR] ditka_Fatdog [TDR] Members 952 posts 10,745 battles Report post #9 Posted October 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? Dont let realism matter in our great arcade game :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,934 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 6,953 posts 22,728 battles Report post #10 Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Burnsy said: Skip bombing is in internal testing right now. I imagine the ship is in the plans. I thought I read that it was gonna be on a KM CV (guessing a new premium...at least at 1st). Not sure of the accuracy of that data as it was just a comment in the forums I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,383 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 8,304 posts 12,206 battles Report post #11 Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? CVs also had to turn into the wind to launch aircraft, yet i dont see bearing being an issue for any CV planes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [DANTO] VaygrEmpire Beta Testers 206 posts 6,955 battles Report post #12 Posted October 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said: I thought I read that it was gonna be on a KM CV (guessing a new premium...at least at 1st). Not sure of the accuracy of that data as it was just a comment in the forums I believe. the video that showed skip bombing was tested on german cv. 1 hour ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? oh no they can def come back. Because, why not? just look at all those fake ships in game. I'm pretty sure WG will somehow find mysterious technology to make it sense. Also, which part of being able to heal in mid air makes sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,452 [REVY] Sventex Members 8,099 posts 6,118 battles Report post #13 Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? What does it matter? CVs regenerate planes...unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,234 [A-D-F] Burnsy Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,044 posts Report post #14 Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? Sure? Whether the planes come back or the ships makes more, it makes no difference really. As long as the ship makes them fast enough to keep in the action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,934 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 6,953 posts 22,728 battles Report post #15 Posted October 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, VaygrEmpire said: the video that showed skip bombing was tested on german cv. oh no they can def come back. Because, why not? just look at all those fake ships in game. I'm pretty sure WG will somehow find mysterious technology to make it sense. Also, which part of being able to heal in mid air makes sense? I kinda like the historical accuracy behind the cargo hold (that every ordinance carrying plane had of course...except the FDR's rocket planes I guess) that carries around a squadron of fighters they can release w/just the touch of a button. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,409 [IRNBN] Balon_Greyjoy Members 3,699 posts 10,762 battles Report post #16 Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said: I kinda like the historical accuracy behind the cargo hold (that every ordinance carrying plane had of course...except the FDR's rocket planes I guess) that carries around a squadron of fighters they can release w/just the touch of a button. TBH, I was disabused of any illusion of historical accuracy when I got my first Tier 2 four years ago. I was like, OK the boats are pretty and it's kinda fun, but realistic? Not even close. Everyone knows the list. Battleships that can't fight broadside. Destroyers with built-in torpedo factories. Radars and hydrophones that only work part-time but can see through islands. Paper fantasy ships. Immunity to grounding/collision damage. No crew casualties or even topside personnel. Starting deployments that look more like a Napoleonic battlefield than a fleet formation. It goes on and on. We all know this isn't, and never was, a simulation. Too bad, because the art work is there to make a great one. Edited October 18, 2020 by Balon_Greyjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,409 [IRNBN] Balon_Greyjoy Members 3,699 posts 10,762 battles Report post #17 Posted October 18, 2020 This is better: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
369 [XXX] Formous Members 594 posts 1,579 battles Report post #18 Posted October 18, 2020 12 hours ago, tcbaker777 said: CVs also had to turn into the wind to launch aircraft, yet i dont see bearing being an issue for any CV planes Just like how DDs had no torp reloads right or magic stealth fields? Or BBs which had to be parallel to avoid taking major damage during battle? Wind seems a minor complaint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
287 [WOLFG] Falls_USMC [WOLFG] Members 982 posts 9,124 battles Report post #19 Posted October 19, 2020 22 hours ago, tcbaker777 said: when was the USS Hornet announced? that wouldve been all over the forums by now if it was Announced was probably the wrong word. It was mentioned on Reddit, I believe. I forget the exact context. Sorry for the confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,659 [-ARP-] Cit_the_bed [-ARP-] Members 1,249 posts 19,528 battles Report post #20 Posted October 19, 2020 Because don't you remember, Russia was dominant navy in WW2, so puny doolittle raid is not worth mentioning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 American_Ace_96 Members 110 posts Report post #21 Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 11:59 PM, Balon_Greyjoy said: You do realize the Doolittle raid was a 1-way trip, right? The B-25s had to be loaded aboard by crane dockside at NAS Alameda. You really want planes that can't come back? This is true and probably one of the few sources of realism WG will not budge on. I have a potential solution. Give Hornet the standard US load out of Fighters and Torpedo/Dive bombers, but have her B25s be a one time use consumable. The attack runs would be split up into eight groups of two (since 16 B-25s were used) and use either high altitude bombing similar to Indomitable or WG's patented skip bombing. It's not the greatest idea I've put on digital paper but since it's just after 1 AM for me, I don't think it's that bad of an idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
446 [FOXEH] comtedumas Members 1,935 posts 12,460 battles Report post #22 Posted October 19, 2020 According to the History channel this is accurate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
202 [RBMK2] contag10n [RBMK2] Members 586 posts 12,266 battles Report post #23 Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 11:59 PM, Balon_Greyjoy said: You really want planes that can't come back? Well, honestly that's what happens every time I play CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 [ASHIP] JamesZ28 [ASHIP] Members 97 posts 9,005 battles Report post #24 Posted October 19, 2020 This was already talked about a year or so ago in the Cv forum, just have 4 flights of 4 that dont return to the carrier single plane attacks and skip 4 to 6 bombs, maybe have attack planes as the other plane type like the Indomitable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
