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It takes 20 games to calibrate, then you should see MM "normalize."  So, as @Arlskandir mentioned, the first 20 could be unpredictable.

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18 minutes ago, theLaalaa said:

Are there any tier 4's playing?

Some, but most of them seem to be T4 CVs and they are causing all of the bot filled low tier games.  There are too many T4 CVs in the queue so MM is dropping them in game with bots and the remaining T4 surface ship players.  MM doesn't want to drop T5 ships into these bot filled games, so that means you're stuck in higher tier matches.  Aren't T4 CVs an awesome addition to the game?

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4 minutes ago, HamptonRoads said:

It takes 20 games to calibrate, then you should see MM "normalize."  So, as @Arlskandir mentioned, the first 20 could be unpredictable.

But that's for each ship, not for your "Fleet".  Play one ship 20 times and MM levels out. Go to a new ship and MM could go bonkers until it gets those 20 games analyzed.

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2 minutes ago, Khafni said:

But that's for each ship, not for your "Fleet".  Play one ship 20 times and MM levels out. Go to a new ship and MM could go bonkers until it gets those 20 games analyzed.

That's what I meant, but thanks for clarifying it.

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The MM tries to keep bottom tier in three tier matches down to 40% or less which the MM did at 37.5%. It doesn't limit middle in three tier matches or bottom in two tier matches.

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1 hour ago, theLaalaa said:

Are there any tier 4's playing?

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LaaLaa, you have to remember that in most of these missions, the minimum tier is 5.  Now, I can't speak for anyone else, but I rarely play anything below tier 5 for this exact reason, which probably means that there may be little reason for MM to build teams for tier 5 top tier battles, unless you get lucky enough for an all tier 5's battle.

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T5 MM is screwy because T4 gets protected MM. Therefore T5 doesn't see low tier as much. It's a problem, but it's basically T5 getting screwed so T4 doesn't have to. There's no perfect solution. The new MM really only works at T7+.

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Thanks for the replies. I shall ponder what I've learned here. See y'all out there....

Oh look... after another couple of matches, this....

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3 hours ago, theLaalaa said:

Are there any tier 4's playing?

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The new MM only guarantees you will not be bottom tier by 2 tiers more than 8 out of the last 20 battles...it doesn't guarantee you will ever be top tier & being uptiered by 1 tier the other 12 games is possible.

3 hours ago, Khafni said:

But that's for each ship, not for your "Fleet".  Play one ship 20 times and MM levels out. Go to a new ship and MM could go bonkers until it gets those 20 games analyzed.

 

3 hours ago, HamptonRoads said:

That's what I meant, but thanks for clarifying it.

This is incorrect...that balance is per tier so after the 1st 20 (calibration) battles in any tier (no matter what (non CV***) ships you use...(***although CVs seem to be exempt from this MM protection based on 1 players experiment) the new MM rules kick in.

That is per each game mode though so you can't burn off your random calibration games in co-op or vice versa (& other modes are irrelevant as they are all the same tier).

Edit: The 1st 20 calibration games in any tier may (& more than likely will as most other players are already calibrated & immune to it) find you bottom tier by 2 tiers in all 20 battles.

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2 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

The new MM only guarantees you will not be bottom tier by 2 tiers more than 8 out of the last 20 battles...it doesn't guarantee you will ever be top tier & being uptiered by 1 tier the other 12 games is possible.

 

This is incorrect...that balance is per tier so after the 1st 20 (calibration) battles in any tier (no matter what (non CV***) ships you use...(***although CVs seem to be exempt from this MM protection based on 1 players experiment) the new MM rules kick in.

That is per each game mode though so you can't burn off your random calibration games in co-op or vice versa (& other modes are irrelevant as they are all the same tier).

 

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

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6 minutes ago, HamptonRoads said:

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

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9 minutes ago, HamptonRoads said:

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

Might wanna go back& read the edit I included...important to know for sanity's sake.

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3 hours ago, HamptonRoads said:

It takes 20 games to calibrate, then you should see MM "normalize."  So, as @Arlskandir mentioned, the first 20 could be unpredictable.

No, sorry. Doesn't work. 

Please do follow through the entire thread - thanks! :cap_like:

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In fact, I would encourage everyone to track your next 25 matches. Stick to one tier that can see up tiers, like 8 and below. See what your analysis shows. 

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