Red Tails

[BnaditCorps]

I saw this on the Recommended videos and it is the full movie.

enjoy

[_Sarcasticat_]

Stronkly recommend red tails! +1

[ajapanzer5]

It was a decent movie, unlike many movies these days.

[Fast_Battleship_Iowa]

Better than Fury, but still had that Hollywood element.

[Lodjik]

Meh, it could have been better

[_Sarcasticat_]

Better than Fury, but still had that Hollywood element.

 

I loved Fury.

 

But.

 

Not enough Tank v Tank action and the city scene was uneeded.

[AdmiralPiett]

Speaking as someone who understands air combat, Red Tails is laugh-out-loud levels of bad. To the point that "here's a little trick I learned" is a meme for when someone is going to do something colossally stupid and/or impossible with an aircraft in a flight sim. It is worth watching as a funny bad movie though, since the acting, editing, writing and historical accuracy is all horrifically off.

[donaldEpott]

I think they went way overboard with a lot of the details. they could have stuck to the truth. I could never stand when they take a story and not even tell the truth of it all. They couldnt even use the real pilots names even though they were the technical advisers for the film. The CGI made it look like Star Wars meets WW2.

[Cruiser_Tenryuu]

Added to my watch later list. :3c

[BnaditCorps]

 

I loved Fury.

 

But.

 

Not enough Tank v Tank action and the city scene was uneeded.

yea the city scene was bad and just for hollywood

Speaking as someone who understands air combat, Red Tails is laugh-out-loud levels of bad. To the point that "here's a little trick I learned" is a meme for when someone is going to do something colossally stupid and/or impossible with an aircraft in a flight sim. It is worth watching as a funny bad movie though, since the acting, editing, writing and historical accuracy is all horrifically off.

 

it is not a documentary so i didn't expect "real"

[Noth]

The ending just ruins it. A pilot being in one piece and the plane still flying after eating numerous 30mm rounds (likely Minengeschoß). At least in Fury, the ending scene had some hooks to actual happening in history.

[IcedBroom]

 

I loved Fury.

 

But.

 

Not enough Tank v Tank action and the city scene was uneeded.

 

I love fury as well. But it was more realistic-ish then most war movies. Please show me a war movie where a tank runs over a already decomposed corpse and shows what most of the US army thought about the Nazi's after the battle of the bugle. Yeah that "rumor" of the Germans killing a entire US army division even though they surrender. But yeah I wanted more tank on tank action.

[Fast_Battleship_Iowa]

 

I loved Fury.

 

But.

 

Not enough Tank v Tank action and the city scene was uneeded.

 

I agree it was good - they did an amazing job of displaying the horrors of war and how dark, gritty and disgusting it can be.  Props for that.

 

The one thing I'm docking off Fury is that final scene.  Just what the heck.  Even I, who will watch almost anything, was dumbstruck as the people carrying those anti-tank missiles somehow lost them, and only decided to use them about 1/2 way through the engagement after figuring out guns vs tank doesn't work.  Let's not forget Mr. Machingunman who somehow stays alive after being surrounded by Germans, only to be killed after taking something like 4 bullets from a sniper 20m away.  That scene killed it for me, although if I look past that one part I will agree it was a great movie.

[_Sarcasticat_]

 

I agree it was good - they did an amazing job of displaying the horrors of war and how dark, gritty and disgusting it can be.  Props for that.

 

The one thing I'm docking off Fury is that final scene.  Just what the heck.  Even I, who will watch almost anything, was dumbstruck as the people carrying those anti-tank missiles somehow lost them, and only decided to use them about 1/2 way through the engagement after figuring out guns vs tank doesn't work.  Let's not forget Mr. Machingunman who somehow stays alive after being surrounded by Germans, only to be killed after taking something like 4 bullets from a sniper 20m away.  That scene killed it for me, although if I look past that one part I will agree it was a great movie.

 

I loved the final scene. If you go back through, you notice most of the Germans came to the front (Dunno why) of the tank, so he had some cover behind the turret.

 

4 bullets and still barely alive. He would have died anyway if he had not gotten immediate medical attention

[BladedPheonix]

You can't compare Fury to Red tails at all, red tails was a flop and Fury was a block buster!  In my eyes this movie was a failure, because  it portrayed the luftwaffa and the German army as complete incompetent fools when in actuality the luftwaffa was probably the only remaining element, small as it was in 44/45, that was preventing a complete allied victory. Granted the Germans were our enemy, but they were anything but incompetent, in fact most of the remaining army was fanatical and dangerous and half the weapons we use today are based off their technology!  Along with this the acting was mediocre at best, half the German subtitles are incorrect for the phrases and jargon, the dogfight scenes don't even look real in some of the scenes and lastly only 12 confirmed M262s were confirmed shot down in in battle, only 2 by the red tails in real life, the rest were shot down by other fighter groups and or destroyed on the ground .

[IcedBroom]

 

I loved the final scene. If you go back through, you notice most of the Germans came to the front (Dunno why) of the tank, so he had some cover behind the turret.

 

4 bullets and still barely alive. He would have died anyway if he had not gotten immediate medical attention

 

But the thing that makes me wonder is WHY DIDN'T HE AIM FOR THE HEAD?! He was basically holding still! Yes I know the head is a small and hard to hit target but like come on! From that range and he aims for the arms and chest?!?!!? A real sniper would have aim for the head.

[Noth]

 

I agree it was good - they did an amazing job of displaying the horrors of war and how dark, gritty and disgusting it can be.  Props for that.

 

The one thing I'm docking off Fury is that final scene.  Just what the heck.  Even I, who will watch almost anything, was dumbstruck as the people carrying those anti-tank missiles somehow lost them, and only decided to use them about 1/2 way through the engagement after figuring out guns vs tank doesn't work.  Let's not forget Mr. Machingunman who somehow stays alive after being surrounded by Germans, only to be killed after taking something like 4 bullets from a sniper 20m away.  That scene killed it for me, although if I look past that one part I will agree it was a great movie.

 

You do realize that stuff like that scene actually happened in WW2 right? Audie Murphy was practically made famous for what was basically an hour long, one man stand on a disabled M10 against a large force of Germans. Then there was the KV-1 that was disabled that held off the Germans for a day or more.

[IcedBroom]

 

You do realize that stuff like that scene actually happened in WW2 right? Audie Murphy was practically made famous for what was basically an hour long, one man stand on a disabled M10 against a large force of Germans. Then there was the KV-1 that was disabled that held off the Germans for a day or more.

 

Ummmm are you talking about the entire Russian armored division that sacrifice itself so that the red army could prepare the defenses at Stalingrad right before the battle of Stalingrad?

[Erictheawful]

I always thought the movie "The Tuskegee Airmen" by HBO was far better than "Red Tails".

 

 

You do realize that stuff like that scene actually happened in WW2 right? Audie Murphy was practically made famous for what was basically an hour long, one man stand on a disabled M10 against a large force of Germans. Then there was the KV-1 that was disabled that held off the Germans for a day or more.

 

Keep in mind that KV-1 was against tanks that simply couldn't hurt it .

[Macabe]

Good movie.

[BladedPheonix]

 

I agree it was good - they did an amazing job of displaying the horrors of war and how dark, gritty and disgusting it can be.  Props for that.

 

The one thing I'm docking off Fury is that final scene.  Just what the heck.  Even I, who will watch almost anything, was dumbstruck as the people carrying those anti-tank missiles somehow lost them, and only decided to use them about 1/2 way through the engagement after figuring out guns vs tank doesn't work.  Let's not forget Mr. Machingunman who somehow stays alive after being surrounded by Germans, only to be killed after taking something like 4 bullets from a sniper 20m away.  That scene killed it for me, although if I look past that one part I will agree it was a great movie.

 

  The last scene in fury with the young German soilder is basically a mirror image of what the radioman was when he started in beginning of the movie. he was young, unexperienced, never even killed a man. chances are he thought the radioman was bleeding out and decided to let him die in peace, rather than let the other soilders torture him to death.

[BnaditCorps]

 

I agree it was good - they did an amazing job of displaying the horrors of war and how dark, gritty and disgusting it can be.  Props for that.

 

The one thing I'm docking off Fury is that final scene.  Just what the heck.  Even I, who will watch almost anything, was dumbstruck as the people carrying those anti-tank missiles somehow lost them, and only decided to use them about 1/2 way through the engagement after figuring out guns vs tank doesn't work.  Let's not forget Mr. Machingunman who somehow stays alive after being surrounded by Germans, only to be killed after taking something like 4 bullets from a sniper 20m away.  That scene killed it for me, although if I look past that one part I will agree it was a great movie.

 

yes the horrors of war were showed, but i know that if i had to i would go in a heartbeat and i know i would be scared s*!tless, but the more you worry the worse you are mentally and pyhsically

[BnaditCorps]

 

  The last scene in fury with the young German soilder is basically a mirror image of what the radioman was when he started in beginning of the movie. he was young, unexperienced, never even killed a man.

 

yes

[Erictheawful]

 

Ummmm are you talking about the entire Russian armored division that sacrifice itself so that the red army could prepare the defenses at Stalingrad right before the battle of Stalingrad?

 

Think he means this: (from wiki)

On 14 August 1941, the vanguard of the German 8th Panzer Division approached Krasnogvardeysk (Gatchina) near Leningrad (now known again as Saint Petersburg), and the only Sovietforce available in an attempt to stop the German advance consisted of five well-hidden KV-1 tanks, dug in within a grove at the edge of a swamp. KV-1 tank No. 864 was commanded by the leader of this small force, Lieutenant Zinoviy Kolobanov.

German forces attacked Krasnogvardeysk from three directions. Near Noviy Uchkhoz settlement the geography favoured the Soviet defenders as the only road in the region passed the swamp, and the defenders commanded this choke point from their hidden position. Lieutenant Kolobanov had carefully studied the situation and readied his detachment the day before. Each KV-1 tank carried twice the normal amount of ammunition, two-thirds of which were armour-piercing rounds. Kolobanov ordered his other commanders to hold their fire and await orders. He did not want to reveal the total force, so only one tank would expose itself at a time and engage the enemy.

On 14 August, the German 8th Panzer Division's vanguard ventured directly into the well-prepared Soviet ambush. Kolobanov's tank knocked out the lead German tank with its first shot. The Germans wrongly assumed their lead tank had hit an anti-tank mine, and failed to realize they had been ambushed. The German column stopped, giving Kolobanov the opportunity to destroy the second tank. Only then did the Germans realize they were under attack, but they failed to find the source of the shots. While the German tanks were firing blindly, Kolobanov knocked out the trailing German tank, thus boxing in the entire column.

Although the Germans correctly guessed the direction of fire, they could not spot Lieutenant Kolobanov's tank, and now attempted to engage an unseen enemy. German tanks moving off the road bogged down in the surrounding soft ground, becoming easy targets. Twenty-two German tanks and 2 towed artillery pieces fell victim to Kolobanov's tank before it ran out of ammunition. Kolobanov ordered in another KV-1, and 21 more German tanks were destroyed before the half-hour battle ended. A total of 43 German tanks were destroyed by just five Soviet KV-1s (two more remained in reserve).

After the battle, the crew of No. 865 counted a total of 135 hits on their tank, none of which had penetrated the armour. Lieutenant Kolobanov was awarded the Order of Lenin, while his driver Usov was awarded the Order of the Red Banner. Later on, former Captain Zinoviy Kolobanov was again decorated by Soviet authorities, despite having been convicted and downgraded after the Winter War for "fraternizing with the enemy." After the end of World War II, Lieutenant Kolobanov served in the Soviet occupation zone in East Germany, where he was convicted again when a subordinate escaped to the British occupation zone, and was transferred to the reserves.

 

The Soviet victory was the result of a well-planned ambush in advantageous ground and of technical superiority. Most of the German tanks in this battle were Panzer IIs, armed with 20 mm guns, and a few Panzer IIIs armed with 37 mm KwK 36 L/46.5 guns. The German tank guns had neither the range nor the power of the 76 mm main gun of a KV-1, and the narrower track width of the German tanks caused them to become trapped in the swampy ground.

[Noth]

I always thought the movie "The Tuskegee Airmen" by HBO was far better than "Red Tails".

 

 

Keep in mind that KV-1 was against tanks that simply couldn't hurt it .

 

The Germans still had anti tank weapons that could hurt them, just their tanks were not able to.

 

 

Ummmm are you talking about the entire Russian armored division that sacrifice itself so that the red army could prepare the defenses at Stalingrad right before the battle of Stalingrad?

 

The Battle of Raseiniai. And I'm sorry it was a KV-2 that held off the German Advance for a day.