698 [TF16B] ole_seabee Members 387 posts 21,468 battles Report post #1 Posted September 6, 2020 I know this topic will be banned soon ... you have to be very positive in your posts or the monitors will delete you. So many are unhappy with the direction wow is going we get squelched im not saying we are correct but should be alllowed to be heard. i have played pretty much from the beginning and have spent money but not lots as i am a retired vet. I feel they have their program and realy dont care what they think... I hope they do. I hope this post will survive a day or so if not will solidify my opinion . 2 1 3 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,379 [WOLFC] Nevermore135 Members 6,958 posts 20,305 battles Report post #2 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Since you haven’t violated any of the forum rules, I don’t see why this post would be deleted. WG has shown on numerous occasions that they do listen and take into account well-reasoned, constructive feedback. The changes to AA mechanics and aerial spotting that are currently being tested are evidence of this. Too many people equate “not listening” to “not agreeing.” Edited September 6, 2020 by Nevermore135 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,197 [SLI] Burnsy Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 10,698 posts Report post #3 Posted September 6, 2020 They listen, they just don't do everything everyone says they should. They can't. I don't see why this thread would be deleted. The only ones that are are the the ones that break the forum rules. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 anonym_j09pJOQbXcQH Members 5,088 posts Report post #4 Posted September 6, 2020 This thread is fine. The problem is getting someone to learn new things as in actually teaming up with you in a fight. They would rather die a thousand deaths in YOLO mode than team with anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 Ruthless4u Members 687 posts 362 battles Report post #5 Posted September 6, 2020 Well they did rework the CV’s, players were demanding a CV rework for years right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,114 [FOXEH] Umikami Banned 14,364 posts 23,369 battles Report post #6 Posted September 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ruthless4u said: Well they did rework the CV’s, players were demanding a CV rework for years right? No. No one wanted the CV rework, they wanted the old RTS system fixed, and that was what they had asked for, for over 3 years. The rework is what WG gave them, unasked. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,059 [KRAK] Vaffu Members 4,345 posts 30,254 battles Report post #7 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, ole_seabee said: I know this topic will be banned soon ... you have to be very positive in your posts or the monitors will delete you. So in other words the beatings will continue until morale improves? Edited September 6, 2020 by Vaffu 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #8 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Umikami said: No. No one wanted the CV rework, they wanted the old RTS system fixed, and that was what they had asked for, for over 3 years. The rework is what WG gave them, unasked. People didn't really specify, they just asked for specific issues to be addressed. Nobody expected a rework, they just assumed any fixes would be within the RTS framework. Before you ask something of WG, think of how an evil genie might fulfill your wish. If you're ok with that, ask away lol. Edited September 6, 2020 by Skpstr 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,764 [CMFRT] KilljoyCutter Banned 16,985 posts Report post #9 Posted September 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Umikami said: No. No one wanted the CV rework, they wanted the old RTS system fixed, and that was what they had asked for, for over 3 years. The rework is what WG gave them, unasked. See also, people asking for fixes for specific captain skills, and WG instead slapping us with a total skill rebork full of things no one wanted, skills being denied on the basis if ship type, and a bunch of new skills with poison pill "balance" downside... and then claiming "players have been asking for a skill rework". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
468 khorender_1 Members 1,483 posts 9,815 battles Report post #10 Posted September 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Umikami said: No. No one wanted the CV rework, they wanted the old RTS system fixed, and that was what they had asked for, for over 3 years. The rework is what WG gave them, unasked. No what we got is more people have an easier access to the CV class compared to the even more broken RTS style. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
390 [-GOD-] bosco1111 Members 1,387 posts Report post #11 Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, khorender_1 said: No what we got is more people have an easier access to the CV class compared to the even more broken RTS style. Sorry the RTS wasn't this broke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [-TFC-] snookmaster101 Members 27 posts 22,876 battles Report post #12 Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, khorender_1 said: No what we got is more people have an easier access to the CV class compared to the even more broken RTS style. Thats simple crap. People learned how to abuse that system/mechanics and now they have to fly and attack with visual drops rather then the computer doing it for them. Its not the game that the main issue but more of the mentality of the player themselves. Decent players will adjust and others will simply whine over the fact they cant have their way. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #13 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bosco1111 said: Sorry the RTS wasn't this broke. Take off the rose tinted glasses. I could keep the entire enemy team constantly spotted with the old system while launching attacks that would nuke ships in one run with undogeable cross drops. If the other CV wasnt proficient with strafing, I could completely shut them down and in some cases nuke them in the opening minutes removing air spotting and support for their team. Also if you wanted to torp my teammates, I would keep my planes in position to spot all your torps right after launch. Etc etc etc. Edited September 6, 2020 by RipNuN2 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,828 [WOLFG] DrHolmes52 Members 18,207 posts 23,178 battles Report post #14 Posted September 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, bosco1111 said: Sorry the RTS wasn't this broke. The "problems" with RTS were strafing and manual drops. And controlling more squadrons the higher in tier you got. Combined, that reduced the number of CV players. From what WG wanted. All of the "problems" with RTS were addressed in the rework (with the exception of manual drops, which was addressed by lower alpha, kinda). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 Ruthless4u Members 687 posts 362 battles Report post #15 Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Umikami said: No. No one wanted the CV rework, they wanted the old RTS system fixed, and that was what they had asked for, for over 3 years. The rework is what WG gave them, unasked. It was a bad attempt at humor on my part and I seen plenty of players asking for CV’s to be reworked, RTS fixed or removed completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
390 [-GOD-] bosco1111 Members 1,387 posts Report post #16 Posted September 6, 2020 52 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said: Take off the rose tinted glasses. I could keep the entire enemy team constantly spotted with the old system while launching attacks that would nuke ships in one run with undogeable cross drops. If the other CV wasnt proficient with strafing, I could completely shut them down and in some cases nuke them in the opening minutes removing air spotting and support for their team. Also if you wanted to torp my teammates, I would keep my planes in position to spot all your torps right after launch. Etc etc etc. I'm not the one wearing pastel shades my friend nor was/am I a CV main but i never seemed to have to much trouble with them when they were RTS .It's just because most CV players couldn't counter other CV players that we have the jockitch version of cvs we have now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,114 [FOXEH] Umikami Banned 14,364 posts 23,369 battles Report post #17 Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Skpstr said: Before you ask something of WG, think of how an evil genie might fulfill your wish. If you're ok with that, ask away lol. Ain't it the sad, sad truth! 1 hour ago, KilljoyCutter said: See also, people asking for fixes for specific captain skills, and WG instead slapping us with a total skill rebork full of things no one wanted, skills being denied on the basis if ship type, and a bunch of new skills with poison pill "balance" downside... and then claiming "players have been asking for a skill rework". What the skills rework really does is insure anyone who wants to continue playing now has to grin out two more levels for everyone of their 19 point Captains. Thanks WG! 1 hour ago, khorender_1 said: No what we got is more people have an easier access to the CV class compared to the even more broken RTS style. It's hilarious that you think so, but your statement is blatantly false where it says the RTS system was broken. Granted, it took skills to master, but it was not broken, and could have been fixed had WG listened to player feedback. What the rework did was seriously dumb the skill level required down to where even battleship players could play CVs. The rework didn't make CV play better, it just made it easier so every dumptruck and his Uncle Fudd would buy one, at the expense of every other ship type. 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,470 battles Report post #18 Posted September 6, 2020 This is footage from the China WOWS server, where RTS CVs still exist. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #19 Posted September 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Compassghost said: This is footage from the China WOWS server, where RTS CVs still exist. Hmm looks underpowered, should only take 2 squads to kill it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
468 khorender_1 Members 1,483 posts 9,815 battles Report post #20 Posted September 7, 2020 3 hours ago, bosco1111 said: Sorry the RTS wasn't this broke. True it was worse 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
468 khorender_1 Members 1,483 posts 9,815 battles Report post #21 Posted September 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Umikami said: Ain't it the sad, sad truth! What the skills rework really does is insure anyone who wants to continue playing now has to grin out two more levels for everyone of their 19 point Captains. Thanks WG! It's hilarious that you think so, but your statement is blatantly false where it says the RTS system was broken. Granted, it took skills to master, but it was not broken, and could have been fixed had WG listened to player feedback. What the rework did was seriously dumb the skill level required down to where even battleship players could play CVs. The rework didn't make CV play better, it just made it easier so every dumptruck and his Uncle Fudd would buy one, at the expense of every other ship type. You have shown nothing but opinion, just like I blatantly did, the old way you could get cross dropped and killed off faster than you can now, your opinion say's it broken now, mine say's it was with the old system and I never complained about either system unlike you are now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,059 [KILL] WES_HoundDog Members 1,607 posts 16,944 battles Report post #22 Posted September 7, 2020 To wallets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,237 [-VT-] Cit_the_bed Members 2,471 posts 28,865 battles Report post #23 Posted September 7, 2020 Most game developers do not, and in fact most come to despise their audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,366 [WORX] Navalpride33 Members 17,696 posts 23,425 battles Report post #24 Posted September 7, 2020 IMO, WG listens to much... They have come up with solutions to the communities complaining time and time again. Just keep this to heart every time they sugguest improvements or changes... "Be careful what changes or suggestions you ask to "improve" or "optimize" a game function... You may not like the final polished product." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,862 [HINON] tcbaker777 Members 9,987 posts 21,168 battles Report post #25 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Burnsy said: I don't see why this thread would be deleted. The only ones that are are the the ones that break the forum rules. Mods with power abuse, i know they exist on these forums, out of all the 14 million futures Dr.Strange saw, there wasnt one where there isnt at least ONE Mod or Admin on this forum that doesnt abuse their power Edited September 7, 2020 by tcbaker777 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
