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Hello Forum:

I would like to share again my disagreement about the bad way of balancing teams that the game has, in random battles.

Always, always, whenever I play a level 7 and 8 ship, I get mostly level 9 and 10 enemies.

From there a very unbalanced game begins.

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Unbalanced game means one of the teams has an advantage. That isn't the case here.

MM changes have been made to ensure that the number of games you are top tier, bottom tier, and mid tier are evened out. So I doubt that you "mostly" get games where you are bottom tier.

And finally, being bottom tier is simply part of the game. Sometimes you're the shark, and sometimes you're the minnow. You got to learn to play both ways.

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1) If you are not going to take my word for it, why do you comment?

2) If "changes" were made in the MM it was for the worse. I am not the only one who encounters this reality.

3) Don't come to attack me or reprimand me. I don't need you to come give me "lessons", just give your opinion and that's it. And in a constructive way.

4) These types of answers are given in the international forum in English. When I comment on the forum in Spanish it doesn't happen. This shows where the TOXIC PEOPLE OF THE GAME are.

5) The fair thing is not to bank the game like that, when you have a shark you win and when you have a small fish you lose and you endure it. THE GAME MUST BE BALANCED WELL: FISH = FISH / SHARK = SHARK !!!!!

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1 hour ago, capitan_philip said:

1) If you are not going to take my word for it, why do you comment?

     So, nobody else plays this game?

2) If "changes" were made in the MM it was for the worse. I am not the only one who encounters this reality.

     No changes have been made recently.

3) Don't come to attack me or reprimand me. I don't need you to come give me "lessons", just give your opinion and that's it. And in a constructive way.

     Nobody attacked you, but how do you learn if you don't listen to and answer?

4) These types of answers are given in the international forum in English. When I comment on the forum in Spanish it doesn't happen. This shows where the TOXIC PEOPLE OF THE GAME are.

     There was no toxicity, you received an appropriate answer with good information.

5) The fair thing is not to bank the game like that, when you have a shark you win and when you have a small fish you lose and you endure it. THE GAME MUST BE BALANCED WELL: FISH = FISH / SHARK = SHARK !!!!!

     Both teams have the same number of and same type of ships. It is random and random things happen, hence the name. It creates more diversity instead of being bland and boring. Plus, you get more XP for shooting them bigger boats.

 

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Ok. But .... How much fun can it be to be in a battle, with a Shchors versus a Missouri or an Iowa and a Shimakaze .....? If you're right ... it's a lot of fun ....!

You end up praying that your high-level teammates don't leave you alone.

Aside: I bought a Shokaku carrier, a few days ago. All the battles I played, I came across level 9 and 10. You can't even get close to enemies.

Same. Thank you for your most cordial response.

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1 hour ago, capitan_philip said:

1) If you are not going to take my word for it, why do you comment?

2) If "changes" were made in the MM it was for the worse. I am not the only one who encounters this reality.

3) Don't come to attack me or reprimand me. I don't need you to come give me "lessons", just give your opinion and that's it. And in a constructive way.

4) These types of answers are given in the international forum in English. When I comment on the forum in Spanish it doesn't happen. This shows where the TOXIC PEOPLE OF THE GAME are.

5) The fair thing is not to bank the game like that, when you have a shark you win and when you have a small fish you lose and you endure it. THE GAME MUST BE BALANCED WELL: FISH = FISH / SHARK = SHARK !!!!!

1) People do not take your word for it because we know changes were made to the MM to prevent you from being up tiered "mostly".

2) Changes were made and it definitely was not for the "worse".  We play this game too and see the difference in MM.

3) No one attacked you. You are just overly sensitive.

4) Welcome to North America.

5) Lower tier ships can and do inflict damage on higher tier ships. I cannot even tell you how many times I have topped the scoreboard in a bottom tier ship or how many times I have seen bottom tier ships played by others top the board. You just need to play a different strategy when up tiered.

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I'm a liar. I don't see what I see in the game. I no longer publish in an international forum. Sorry.

I don't know why I lied .... I always sink level 10 ships with a Shchors or my Fiji ... it's easy !!!!

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In your last 100 battles, how many were you low tier, mid tier and top tier?

MM was changed several months ago to even it out. If you can provide proof that you are disproportionately being placed in low tier battles, then you should provide that proof so that WG knows that it isn't working. 

Also, if you prefer the South American forums, why are you here? 

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1 hour ago, capitan_philip said:

1) If you are not going to take my word for it, why do you comment?

2) If "changes" were made in the MM it was for the worse. I am not the only one who encounters this reality.

3) Don't come to attack me or reprimand me. I don't need you to come give me "lessons", just give your opinion and that's it. And in a constructive way.

4) These types of answers are given in the international forum in English. When I comment on the forum in Spanish it doesn't happen. This shows where the TOXIC PEOPLE OF THE GAME are.

5) The fair thing is not to bank the game like that, when you have a shark you win and when you have a small fish you lose and you endure it. THE GAME MUST BE BALANCED WELL: FISH = FISH / SHARK = SHARK !!!!!

1) Because believe it or not, I'm trying to help you. Almost everyone who posts with a complaint about MM says they "only" get bottom tier games. Since the MM is specifically designed to avoid this, unless you have the numbers to back up what you say I'm going to say you have a perception bias.

2) So changes that were made to ensure people aren't always bottom tier are bad?

https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wows/article/26274/

3) This is my opinion, you have a misunderstanding of the game. If you want to believe that MM doesn't work the way it actually does, that's a personal problem.

4) Or just where the majority of the people are.

5. Fair is when you have an equal chance of winning, which is true. And yes, I've had plenty of great games while bottom tier. Ships are balanced to perform in +/-2 MM.

 

If you don't want to hear different opinions, don't post. And if you think you don't need lessons or advice, then why are you here?

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47 minutes ago, capitan_philip said:

You see..... ... those kinds of silly posters are not in the Latin American forum.

Then I need to show myself over there and troll you a bit. You are acting overly sensitive, considering the answers you received so far are correct and not toxic.

On topic, new ships are a random roulette regarding MM. After 20 matches it will even out. 

Being undertiered is educational, take the chance to learn.

If you suffer while playing undertiered CVs then don't do it. The world will be a happier place.

Lastly, and this from a native Spanish speaker, how would you feel if someone from here did the same comment about the spanish forum?

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I will make the historical argument. Many historical battles have been fought when one side’s ships/tanks/etc are all inferior to the other side/ in bad situations.

 

think Taffy 3 (a force of 6 or so DDs, 3 escort carriers, and a DE (destroyer escort)) against Yamato, heavy cruisers, and escorting DDs 

Think Battle of Leyte gulf, where Japanese BBs were uptiered against American BBs with radars and Better night fighting Equipment

think the Glorious incident- aircraft carrier Glorious escorted by two DDs up against two German scharnhorst class BBs

 

low tier is historically accurate

 

plus it gives me more Xp when I do damage to top tier ships.

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Thanks for the attacks!
I was wrong ... I am a liar .... I always sink a Yamato and a Montana with my Fiji. It is super fun.


You are the best and I am not. The poster was fantastic. They are geniuses and I am a fool.

 

Goodbye!!! Luck !!!!

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The OP has turned what could be a decent discussion into something that is heading for a lock with record speed...

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Do not believe ... but ... today battles are fought between 4 levels of difference.

 

YESSSS

 

Seriously ... how do I delete this post ??? I don't want to be in front of so many toxic people ...

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7 minutes ago, Nukelavee45 said:

Your Fiji has never seen a tier ten battle.

Fiji is T7 right? So it can only see T9 ships max?

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Woah this thread is amazing! I feel like I'm watching a train derail and end in a huge crash right before my eyes! 

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2 hours ago, capitan_philip said:

Hello Forum:

I would like to share again my disagreement about the bad way of balancing teams that the game has, in random battles.

Always, always, whenever I play a level 7 and 8 ship, I get mostly level 9 and 10 enemies.

From there a very unbalanced game begins.

REGARDS

So.

Firstly, to address your MMing, after 25 battles in each battle mode, only 40% of your battles will be uptiered per tier.

SO, if you play 20 battles, say 10 at tier VII and 10 at tier VIII then you can encounter 4 uptiered and 6 at tier for tier VII and tier VIII.

A tier VII ship will not get tier X battles unless you are divisioned up with a tier VIII ship. If this has EVER occurred recently, feel free to send me screenshots and replays, because this shouldn't happen.

Secondly, NO ONE in this thread has attacked you, they have in fact asked for clarification or told you how MM has worked and tried to help you. SO personally attacking them is not how you should be responding.

-Hapa

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