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What's the state of the game like these days?  After the CV re-work (was that a year plus ago?) I took an indefinite leave of absence.  It just didn't seem worth continuing to play/grind other classes at that time. 

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CVs are still here and are not going to go anywhere.  They have moved on to developing submarines and stated that their efforts have moved away from further changes to the CV rework and onto subs.

"Worth" is always subjective and nearly impossible to answer with any value.  Only you can decide that.

It doesn't cost you anything to login and find your answer, so that's what I would advise.

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If the new CVs were why you left, then don't bother, because you will see one in EVERY game right now, with the exception of T9 which sees them much less often than every other tier.

Seriously if anyone wants like a 75% chance at avoiding a carrier, just play T9.

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28 minutes ago, Mahrs said:

What's the state of the game like these days?  After the CV re-work (was that a year plus ago?) I took an indefinite leave of absence.  It just didn't seem worth continuing to play/grind other classes at that time. 

The game changes constantly but remains the same. Did you change enough to be interested in the same game you left?

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Thanks gents.  It's cool that they're working to expand the game.  It doesn't sound like I need to worry about coming back anytime soon.  I might at least login to gaze upon Mighty Mo' and remember the good times. 

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39 minutes ago, Mahrs said:

What's the state of the game like these days?  After the CV re-work (was that a year plus ago?) I took an indefinite leave of absence.  It just didn't seem worth continuing to play/grind other classes at that time. 

Personal opinion:  NAW..........play COOP and call it good.   They neutered scenarios and stomps, radar and endless carriers are still all over the place. 

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DDs are the endangered species...so if that is a fav class...its a tough world out there.  I have reset my Japanese DD lines, and it's icky T5 and below, but not too bad until Yugumo, and then its very hard with her best 9.6 torp range and tons of radar and a CV to boot....I find my self the only DD playing on my side a decent amount of time...ugh.

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2 hours ago, Zenn3k said:

If the new CVs were why you left, then don't bother, because you will see one in EVERY game right now, with the exception of T9 which sees them much less often than every other tier.

Seriously if anyone wants like a 75% chance at avoiding a carrier, just play T9.

True but in tier 8 you usually only have 1 CV a side and quarter of the time there a tier 6 CV sometimes tier 10 but I don't see them as being a problem in tier 8 . 

Once and a while they screw with you and can be annoying but there's nothing better than having a good CV player on your side . I really don't mind them for the most part.

 

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2 hours ago, Mahrs said:

What's the state of the game like these days?

There's only one way you'll find out.

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I still find Random games plenty rewarding to play.  Just don't focus on the win/loss so much.

I do not see CV's in every game as stated above, either.  And when I do see them, I still don't think they are game-breaking.  Call me weird.

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55 minutes ago, clammboy said:

True but in tier 8 you usually only have 1 CV a side and quarter of the time there a tier 6 CV sometimes tier 10 but I don't see them as being a problem in tier 8 . 

Once and a while they screw with you and can be annoying but there's nothing better than having a good CV player on your side . I really don't mind them for the most part.

 

I was just sayin', IF you wanna make an effort to avoid, T9 is the way to go.   I don't mind them either, unless you make yourself an easy target they can be mostly ignored in my experience, and when playing DD, just gotta be slightly less sneaky then 100% obvious.

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3 hours ago, Mahrs said:

What's the state of the game like these days?  After the CV re-work (was that a year plus ago?) I took an indefinite leave of absence.  It just didn't seem worth continuing to play/grind other classes at that time. 

How long after the rework did you leave?

If 8.0 was still the newest update there have been many CV "balance" changes since then...if later than 8.0 how much later?

The relevance here is there was a few sledgehammer changes back then & many minor changes since then so a timeframe (or a remmeberance of a specific change at the exact time you left for instance) would help to give a better summary of how it is now compared to how it was when you left.

If 8.0 from the start they are nowhere near as (straight up w/no other words to define it) Over Powered as they were back then.

If it was a couple months after 8.0 they are not a lot different but more changes have occured since then also.

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1 hour ago, Morpheous said:

DDs are the endangered species...so if that is a fav class...its a tough world out there.  I have reset my Japanese DD lines, and it's icky T5 and below, but not too bad until Yugumo, and then its very hard with her best 9.6 torp range and tons of radar and a CV to boot....I find my self the only DD playing on my side a decent amount of time...ugh.

There is a rework to change DD detection against CVs in the works.

They are being careful with it though as they don't wanna make DDs overpowered in their detections against other ships inadvertently while doing it.

The other problem is the reason is in response to the CB boycott but they don't wanna try to make a change just to the 1 mode but a universal change that still keeps the other modes somewhat balanced.

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1 hour ago, Morpheous said:

DDs are the endangered species...so if that is a fav class...its a tough world out there.  I have reset my Japanese DD lines, and it's icky T5 and below, but not too bad until Yugumo, and then its very hard with her best 9.6 torp range and tons of radar and a CV to boot....I find my self the only DD playing on my side a decent amount of time...ugh.

They aren't really.  I still see plenty of battles with 4 per team.  I think over the last 3 or 4 months I have been playing them more and having more fun with them than the other classes.  I don't freak out and give up at the site of a CV like a lot of people do.  I just realize I have to play different and adjust my strategy.  

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Be sure to login at least every 5 1/2 months, otherwise you get dropped from the free stuff list. 

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If one has to make this kind of thread, the answer is no.

To make a thread like this already shows a tremendous amount of reluctance.  You were never intent on returning no matter what anyone says.

If you were really enthusiastic about trying it again, you'd have done so already and see things for yourself.  This thread?  You already had doubts.

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14 hours ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

How long after the rework did you leave?

If 8.0 was still the newest update there have been many CV "balance" changes since then...if later than 8.0 how much later?

The relevance here is there was a few sledgehammer changes back then & many minor changes since then so a timeframe (or a remmeberance of a specific change at the exact time you left for instance) would help to give a better summary of how it is now compared to how it was when you left.

If 8.0 from the start they are nowhere near as (straight up w/no other words to define it) Over Powered as they were back then.

If it was a couple months after 8.0 they are not a lot different but more changes have occured since then also.

Immediately - update dropped, i stopped. I saw the test results, the mechanics changes and thought "cool, being perma spotted by a CV that never runs out of planes (in DD) while AA gets nerfed (CA) doesn't sound like my jam." 

@HazeGrayUnderway - I suspect you're right. 

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29 minutes ago, Mahrs said:

Immediately - update dropped, i stopped. I saw the test results, the mechanics changes and thought "cool, being perma spotted by a CV that never runs out of planes (in DD) while AA gets nerfed (CA) doesn't sound like my jam. 

@HazeGrayUnderway - I suspect you're right. 

Reminds me of people who totally dislike spaghetti with meatballs without ever tasting it. Twenty years later they taste it. "Oh my gawd...." So it goes. 

CV's don't perma-spot. In fact it is getting extremely difficult to spot a DD. A number of carriers aren't equipped to properly, read easily, dispatch a DD. AP weaponry doesn't do much against a DD. 

There are but a very small number of CV's that "never runs out of planes" but they've been that way forever, even back in the RTS days. It was and is their unique feature. Damage output is reduced as an offset. 

Some players have come up with strategies and tactics to take out enemy carriers. Maybe participating in that would be your jam, never know. 

But I'd advise taking a week, playing it, if you don't like it, uninstall and come back when subs are finalized. 

GL with whatever you do. 

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20 hours ago, Mahrs said:

What's the state of the game like these days?  After the CV re-work (was that a year plus ago?) I took an indefinite leave of absence.  It just didn't seem worth continuing to play/grind other classes at that time. 

Like you I took a very long break when the rework dropped.  CVs aren't fun to play against, but not an insurmountable challenge (forget about low tiers, swarming with CVs).  The bigger issue I found is the skill of the average player has dropped so much since the rework.  I had seen people talk about it here on the forum but not playing I didn't get it, until I started playing again.  It's terrible.  I was shocked how often I'd look up to see half my team sunk four minutes into the match.  Making it worse, its like they'd trade their ships for zero damage to the enemy giving your remaining team no chance to turn things around.  It's so bad I ended doing something I thought I'd never do, go play co-op.  And that's coming from a guy that hated co-op.

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Let's see:

  1. Lots of new German ships (only Siegfried is any good, but hidden behind the dreaded research bureau points wall). You may hear nice things about the Odin, but it's fake news. It has low HP and is designed to brawl, so completely pointless...
  2. Lot's of new Russian 12km radar cruisers so playing DD's is even more for masochists only. And one of the new ships has guns that makes all BB's run home to mom. That part of the game hasn't changed!
  3. CV in pretty much every game and those captains are pretty good now, so DD's... I actually don't mind the CV's as they turn battles into air/sea war, which is great. But there's a large swath of the player audience that hates CVs with a passion. Highest satisfaction is to sink a CV with a UK DD....one torpedo at a time. Try it!
  4. You can now buy free xp ships ... at 2M free xp. As a side comment - there's an ever-growing number of temp currencies deployed. So keeping track of value is getting harder.
  5. You can now buy containers that give you missions in which you might win a permacamo....i.e. the whole game has turned into an online casino. There's normally some containers offered and you are led to believe that you will get a missouri or other such ship...except you don't. Instead you can read here about all the players who got a boatload of useless camos...
  6. Submarines are in some form of testing. Everybody seem to hate subs even before they are implemented in the game, so doesn't bode well.
  7. Ranked battles is great if you plan on spending a Saturday achieving nothing. It's the most frustrating game mode where you run into endless losing streaks stalling any lift you may have had to start with. I tried the most recent one and started at rank 9 or so and after a full day of playing, I sat at the floor of rank 12. Those steel are elusive like never before.
  8. Randoms is plagued by high degree of blow-outs. Even the ones you win seem a waste of time. You'll see people here post screenshots of 15 or so defeats in a row.
  9. Not sure if you catched deep water torpedoes....But they are great. They even go under islands.
  10. Oh yeah...and radar and hydro still works as x-rays looking through islands and stuff.

But other than that, the game is going great hovering at 10k players on average online on NA server. I still love the game in spite of all its flaws and I think WG is seriously trying their best at delivering an exciting game experience. I am taking a break last couple of weeks but will return at some point.

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6 hours ago, Mahrs said:

Immediately - update dropped, i stopped. I saw the test results, the mechanics changes and thought "cool, being perma spotted by a CV that never runs out of planes (in DD) while AA gets nerfed (CA) doesn't sound like my jam." 

@HazeGrayUnderway - I suspect you're right. 

Major changes then.

If you know how to toggle your AA (P key) on & off spotting (let alone perma spotting) of your DDs is really hard to do now...especially on low detection torp DDs.

Learning the reticles on CV planes helps to know if you need to turn bow in or broadside to them to mitigate damage.

AA is never gonna be as effective as it was in RTS days but it has gotten better...but I haven't been able to play much since the virus (friend's girl paranoid so can't couch potatoes there anymore) so can't give you exacting up to date details on it all...just what I've gleaned from the forums...but I do know the difference between those that actually test things & give accurate (or at least somewhat accurate) results as opposed to those that complain about a bad battle & report their 1 battles worth of tests as "how it all is".

There's so many changes (but unfortunately the basic mechanics are still the same) so trying them out is the only way to know for sure...because I can tell you how things have changed since the release but if you have never run them the comparisons are moot as far as your knowledge of the situation is concerned.

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I did log in today... I got two anniversaries worth of medallions and stuff... I guess it might have been a little more than a year... 

It's crazy to see all the ships in Port and remember how into WoWS I was at one point. I can always PvP for free, I guess... 

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2 minutes ago, Mahrs said:

I did log in today... I got two anniversaries worth of medallions and stuff... I guess it might have been a little more than a year... 

It's crazy to see all the ships in Port and remember how into WoWS I was at one point. I can always PvP for free, I guess... 

It was January last year so a little more than 1 1/2 years now since 8.0...& yes... there's always the free option.

But if you find you like what you see there's discount coupons for the shop that go along w/the anniversary medallions if I'm not mistaken...not that I'm promoting spending but if you decide to the discounts have a 3 day expiration I do believe.

Would suggest checking out higher tiers as there's a lot more CVs in the T4 area so you can experience them w/out the overwhelm of little to no AA against them at the lower tiers.

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Wht's the worst that could happen? You play, you don't like it and leave for a year again. No skin off anyone's balls if that happens.

 

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Eh... Tried a few matches... It's not what I remember. I'll PvE for my son, who likes it, but mostly I'll just wish I could move the doublons to WoT. 

ETA: I played T8-T10. In classic WoWS fashion, my best match got me reported twice by my own team (over 2k base exp, best on team, NC in a T10).

Overall, though, the matches had a very passive, slow feel...like folks are more aware of and more intent on managing vision mechanics. There were significant periods of each match where no one was even spotted, much more so than I remember. People taking static positions seems to be a more elevated art firm now for all classes. 

Basically, it had a very World of Tanks feel... Lots of vision control and camping. I already play WoT...so, if that's what I want... 

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