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It's Funny How Everyone Was So Worried

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:cap_cool:About the Slava or other ships deemed to be too OP and yet so little attention was paid to the most OP class in the game with unlimited range and whilst you can avoid some  of it's attacks just not all,I even saw,A driver of one of these ships whining about he didn't see why he couldn't hit any attack and hit any other ship in the game(except his ship class of course)I speak of course of the Carrier class,Except it seems there are one or two ships they can't attack with impunity the main one being the Halland and drivers of the carriers are :etc_swear: off that one ship can take out so many of their planes:Smile_trollface:WG  it's time to fix this ship class and here's how.  >>-->>>Again either limit their damage or make them move up or make AA  worth having again<<<--<<

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It will be interesting to see how they handle CV’s on console. Given the closer spawn points in that version. Maybe cause changes here

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16 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

 >>-->>>Again either limit their damage or make them move up or make AA  worth having again<<<--<<

Take the fight to the cv instead of waiting for the cv to bring the fight to you. 

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26 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

Again either limit their damage

This has been nerfed multiple times. And in the recent patch or one in the near future AP bombs are receiving a DMG nerf as well.

 

28 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

make AA  worth having again

This should be your main complaint for Lower Tier ships.

 

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10 minutes ago, Ducky_shot said:

Take the fight to the cv instead of waiting for the cv to bring the fight to you. 

Yup, unless they're complete potatoes, and cut their sortie rate in half by hiding in the back corner, punching through the enemy somewhere often lets you locate the CV(s).

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Cvs are a ship type not class. For example a ship class would be the Yorktown class carriers etc.

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47 minutes ago, Ducky_shot said:

Take the fight to the cv instead of waiting for the cv to bring the fight to you. 

Agreed. Killing CV's early and often is doing God's work. Not to mention fun and rewarding.

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Very nice hissyfit thread

 

Very constructive and has loads of information and ideas 

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1 hour ago, shadowsrmine said:

so little attention was paid to the most OP class in the game

So little attention he says lol. 

Bro where you been??:cap_haloween:

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2 hours ago, shadowsrmine said:

:cap_cool:About the Slava or other ships deemed to be too OP and yet so little attention was paid to the most OP class in the game with unlimited range and whilst you can avoid some  of it's attacks just not all,I even saw,A driver of one of these ships whining about he didn't see why he couldn't hit any attack and hit any other ship in the game(except his ship class of course)I speak of course of the Carrier class,Except it seems there are one or two ships they can't attack with impunity the main one being the Halland and drivers of the carriers are :etc_swear: off that one ship can take out so many of their planes:Smile_trollface:WG  it's time to fix this ship class and here's how.  >>-->>>Again either limit their damage or make them move up or make AA  worth having again<<<--<<

You're right!

Why has no one has mentioned CVs being OP at all on these forums.  It's like they don't exist.  Thank Heaven you have brought this glaring oversight to everyone's attention,.  Maybe, if we are very, very lucky, we can get at least one thread where people complain that CVs are OP.

 

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Which would a team rather have? Tirpitz or Graf Zeppelin?

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1 hour ago, Ducky_shot said:

Take the fight to the cv instead of waiting for the cv to bring the fight to you. 

This right here ^^^ As a player that plays all classes fairly equally, I can tell you that in a CV there is nothing quite so disruptive as having a DD suddenly sighted between you and your teammates. Especially if your teammates are busy focusing on contesting caps, or pushing a flank. It means that as a CV, I cannot support them with spotting or strikes at strategic targets. Instead every sortie has to be directed at that threat.

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15 minutes ago, CaptEvul said:

This right here ^^^ As a player that plays all classes fairly equally, I can tell you that in a CV there is nothing quite so disruptive as having a DD suddenly sighted between you and your teammates. Especially if your teammates are busy focusing on contesting caps, or pushing a flank. It means that as a CV, I cannot support them with spotting or strikes at strategic targets. Instead every sortie has to be directed at that threat.

Not to be confused with a DD chasing a CV all over the map.

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I only have a few hundred CV games under my belt since the rework but I honestly don't see damage or alpha strike as a characteristic of CVs.  I can easily average more damage in a cruiser or BB than a CV at the same tier.

Also, a spotted CV or out numbered CV is screwed in most cases.  Every BB at the same tier as the CV can easily close and kill a CV once within the 12-14km mark.  We've all seen the laughable attempts for a CV trying to kill a charging target, right?

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Although I am not at my finest with them, I am having so much fun playing Ostergotland and Halland vs CVs.  Turn off your AA. Go straight for the approaching squadron. Once spotted hit the 0 button and turn on defensive AA fires. Kill 3-5 on the first pass. Turn off AA, turn into them and see if they are dumb enough to look for you. I am at the point where I am quite disappointed when there are no CVs in the game. I suppose that a unicum cv jock knows how to deal with me but it has not been a problem.  These two DDs are hilariously fun to play. Not OP, just fun.  Actually have more air kills with the Oster. CV captains seem to fear Halland more and will stay away. The key to these two is to turn off you AA. Seems counter productive but the ambush always deals more hurt. 

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2 hours ago, Skpstr said:

Yup, unless they're complete potatoes, and cut their sortie rate in half by hiding in the back corner, punching through the enemy somewhere often lets you locate the CV(s).

I would say you are only getting to the potato CV players when you "punch through the enemy".  But then it appears a very large percentage of CV players fall into this category.

The other side of the coin is you're focusing on getting a potato player when you could be more useful teaming up on a better player. This is the problem with the 3 DD tactic that caused such a uproar a short time back.

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3 minutes ago, handybilly said:

Although I am not at my finest with them, I am having so much fun playing Ostergotland and Halland vs CVs.  Turn off your AA. Go straight for the approaching squadron. Once spotted hit the 0 button and turn on defensive AA fires. Kill 3-5 on the first pass. Turn off AA, turn into them and see if they are dumb enough to look for you. I am at the point where I am quite disappointed when there are no CVs in the game. I suppose that a unicum cv jock knows how to deal with me but it has not been a problem.  These two DDs are hilariously fun to play. Not OP, just fun.  Actually have more air kills with the Oster. CV captains seem to fear Halland more and will stay away. The key to these two is to turn off you AA. Seems counter productive but the ambush always deals more hurt. 

I play all ship types.
As a "CV Driver", I can say that the "Ikea DD's" are indeed annoying with their AA capabilities.  
They lack smoke and their torpedoes are weak and generally these DD's won't win races with their top speed, but ...
they're costly to attack with aircraft.
I've resorted to attempting to hit them with secondary batteries on rare occasions.

Which, them being annoying, is a form of compliment from one adversary to another adversary.


They have a niche and they're specialists like no other DD in that niche.

Which makes me have to work harder, study better and level-up my play, in order to deal with them.

As variety is the spice of life, these DD's add variety to the game.  And make it more *interesting*.  :-)
 

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1 minute ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

I play all ship types.
As a "CV Driver", I can say that the "Ikea DD's" are indeed annoying with their AA capabilities.  
They lack smoke and their torpedoes are weak and generally these DD's won't win races with their top speed, but ...
they're costly to attack with aircraft.
I've resorted to attempting to hit them with secondary batteries on rare occasions.

Which, them being annoying, is a form of compliment from one adversary to another adversary.


They have a niche and they're specialists like no other DD in that niche.

Which makes me have to work harder, study better and level-up my play, in order to deal with them.

As variety is the spice of life, these DD's add variety to the game.  And make it more *interesting*.  :-)
 

Good points. I forgot to mention that their torpedoes are stupid fun too. Fantasy torps all the way but fun. I mean we are talking torps that can go over 100 MPH. 

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2 hours ago, RipNuN2 said:

Cvs are a ship type not class. For example a ship class would be the Yorktown class carriers etc.

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1 minute ago, handybilly said:

Good points. I forgot to mention that their torpedoes are stupid fun too. Fantasy torps all the way but fun. I mean we are talking torps that can go over 100 MPH. 

Indeed.  :cap_look:

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45 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

They have a niche and they're specialists like no other DD in that niche.

Which makes me have to work harder, study better and level-up my play, in order to deal with them.

As variety is the spice of life, these DD's add variety to the game.  And make it more *interesting*.  :-)

Fair enough.

Though it doesn’t change how I feel about them. (Worthless, no-smoke junk. So far I just have Gryf, Blyskawica, and Friesland.)

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2 hours ago, 6Xero9 said:

Which would a team rather have? Tirpitz or Graf Zeppelin?

Tirpitz. Purely because the Graf is such utter garbage. Throw in any other Tier VIII CV and we might have a legitimate conversation.

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3 minutes ago, Halonut24 said:

Tirpitz. Purely because the Graf is such utter garbage. Throw in any other Tier VIII CV and we might have a legitimate conversation.

Indomitable? 

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9 minutes ago, 6Xero9 said:

Indomitable? 

Why not Enterprise?  Indomitable is fun, but it's a one-trick pony.  A very fast one-trick pony, but still...

 

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