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The joke of Ranked!

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Hi All,

 

Well i know that people are going to just say OMFG another whine about Carriers but please hear me out.

Ranked this season is a one class game if you do not need to do much effort EXCEPT be good.   The reality is that you need to be a good Carrier player and you can CARRY if you are good at this is my example of the case.

 

To Get to Ranked 5 quickly you need to carry, and the only type of ship that can do this is the Carrier especially the Enterprise.  If you can out perform your opponent carrier (no other ship can do this) then you will win at least 65% of the time and you can make rank 5 in just around 25 to 35 games.

All the other types of ships need to GRIND .... most of the players i have seen who have made rank 5 take around .

Now that said there are unicum players who can carry in a Massa or DD .... i havent seen a single player in a Cruiser do it on the NA server.

But stats do not lie ....

Examples:

Player A ... Ranked 5 in 39 games:

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Account winrate: 51.26%

Player B ... Ranked 5 in 37 games:

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Account winrate:61.35 %

Player C ... Ranked 5 in 37 games

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Account winrate: 53.57%

Player D .... Ranked 5 in 48 games

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Account winrate:66.58 %

 

So while you can still reach rank 5 being a unicum player in a short time ... the average player must take out a CV.

 

I on the other hand I am a average player and it took me 80 games to reach rank 5 .... not saying I am good just don't play CV's

All they say its balanced!!!!

 

 

I cant remove this image below sorry but yes you are a unicum player i get it.

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the supreme class.

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Well the enterprise is imo the most broken ship tier for tier in the game but I see your point. I generally don’t mind cv in ranked or other game modes tho. I tied up 3 ships on a flank and the cv focused me almost all game in my Oland. I survived, shot down 32 planes, sunk 1, and we won against a Shokaku. Felt good man

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Nothing has changed, wether it be CBs, Ranked, or Randoms.  The difference in CBs and Ranked is the battles don’t last that long and there are less ships to deal with, so an experienced CV player will exploit their limitless planes and spotting ability.  An inexperienced player will simply negate their presence in a battle and put a team at a disadvantage, most likely losing the game for himself and their team.

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3 minutes ago, BarneyStyle said:

Nothing has changed, wether it be CBs, Ranked, or Randoms.  The difference in CBs and Ranked is the battles don’t last that long and there are less ships to deal with, so an experienced CV player will exploit their limitless planes and spotting ability.  An inexperienced player will simply negate their presence in a battle and put a team at a disadvantage, most likely losing the game for himself and their team.

Exactly ... CV's are broken in Ranked cause you only have 7 ships per team.  My example shows i shot down 40 planes and he still managed to get me down to 2% and finish first to save his star. 

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So, legit question; who says the CV is balanced? Anyone? @RemoveCVcomplainers maybe? 

Also, your first screen shot is interesting. 

25 minutes ago, BurntOut_Koalas said:

Player A ... Ranked 5 in 30 games:

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I just happened to go check the numbers right now and found the same guy. 

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You know where I'm going next right OP? The account winrate is not 51.26%:

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OP, would you message me the player name you're referencing? Because from what I see, you either messed up checking the stats, or you're right:

25 minutes ago, BurntOut_Koalas said:

stats do not lie ....

... people do.

 

Also, you're overall idea I think is correct; it is easier to control one's fate in a CV, and the stats will support that at the end of the day I'm sure. So not sure why we had to lie to get there.

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what rank did each of these examples start at?

30 games to rank 5 is impressive if they started at 15, less so if they started at 10.

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27 minutes ago, BurntOut_Koalas said:

Hi All,

 

Well i know that people are going to just say OMFG another whine about Carriers but please hear me out.

Ranked this season is a one class game if you do not need to do much effort EXCEPT be good.   The reality is that you need to be a good Carrier player and you can CARRY if you are good at this is my example of the case.

 

The problem is, the other 6 players are utterly dependent on the CV player to win. A bad CV player will doom his team..unless the opposing CV is equally bad. 

Any other ship type, the 7vs7 setup can afford to have 1 sometimes even 2 people be AFK and the team can still win. But if the CV is incompetent or AFK their chances of winning are dependent on whether the enemy CV is incompetent or AFK as well. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Skyfaller said:

The problem is, the other 6 players are utterly dependent on the CV player to win. A bad CV player will doom his team..unless the opposing CV is equally bad. 

Any other ship type, the 7vs7 setup can afford to have 1 sometimes even 2 people be AFK and the team can still win. But if the CV is incompetent or AFK their chances of winning are dependent on whether the enemy CV is incompetent or AFK as well. 

 

The problem with CV's is that you end up game after game that it really depends on the 2 CV's to which team wins right?

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Yeahhhh I think I’m cool breaking 10. No point in making myself crazy trying to rank out. CV isn’t fun to play with. 

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So in this ranked season you need an Enterprise to win.
In the 1v1 sprint, if you didn't have a Tirpitz you were screwed.
Another classic case of p2w brought to you by the evil corporate overlords.

Btw, whatever happened to premium vehicles not being as good as tech tree?
(I demand a free Missouri for everyone!)

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been playing the perceval , from 12 to 5 took me 57 match and 38 of these in the perceval with a 63% win rate , i had some horrible team that would die very fast

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1 hour ago, BurntOut_Koalas said:

Of course unicums do well in carriers as well.

 

Are you sad you don't qualify as one? :cap_popcorn:

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1 hour ago, BurntOut_Koalas said:

The problem with CV's is that you end up game after game that it really depends on the 2 CV's to which team wins right?

No the problem with CVs is the team believing this kind of tripe. The TEAM wins battles playing their own ship to their maximum ability. 

Quit trying to push the blame AND the credit onto the CV. Make up your mind. 

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I’m not all to certain I’ve lost or won a ranked solely on a CV’s actions any more so than the BB that runs away from any fight and won’t shoot a cruiser, a dd that won’t touch a cap or a radar cruiser that sits 16K from the cap trying to poke shots over the island while the DD’s run rampant.  
 

It takes some MM magic to get enough competent players on a team to win or at least stack the bad ones on the other team.  😹.  
 

Good luck on your ranked journey and try to have some fun on the way. 
 

 

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Bottom line, playing with carriers is frustrating.

They have no business in  random battles, let alone in ranked where it's presence is magnified.

 

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1 hour ago, BurntOut_Koalas said:

The problem with CV's is that you end up game after game that it really depends on the 2 CV's to which team wins right?

Not true at all. I have been playing Massachusetts which is op and do very well and get lots of high calibers while the CVs did not get near the top like you claim they should. Anyone saying the win is decided by one ship is not very experienced in the game. The way the team works together is the main factor in determining who wins.

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3 hours ago, BurntOut_Koalas said:

Exactly ... CV's are broken in Ranked cause you only have 7 ships per team.  My example shows i shot down 40 planes and he still managed to get me down to 2% and finish first to save his star. 

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The joke is you are equating the stats of unicums (that have all already ranked out btw...so they won't be in your way anymore) w/what you will see for the rest of the ranked season.

It's not actually the joke of ranked... it's just the joke of the first few days of ranked (although you may see a few that had IRL issues & started late & will do their afternoon of ranked later...but that is a general statement & any 1 person won't personally see a few...they will be lucky to see 1 in the rest of the season...unless they are playing very late at night when there are few people on that night).

1 hour ago, Admiral_Andy said:

Not true at all. I have been playing Massachusetts which is op and do very well and get lots of high calibers while the CVs did not get near the top like you claim they should. Anyone saying the win is decided by one ship is not very experienced in the game. The way the team works together is the main factor in determining who wins.

That's not possible...he had examples w/purple stats & everything...I saw them...did you even look?

How can examples of purple stats not be true?

BTW OP...you have commented twice since this post:

3 hours ago, Merc_R_Us said:

So, legit question; who says the CV is balanced? Anyone? @RemoveCVcomplainers maybe? 

Also, your first screen shot is interesting. 

I just happened to go check the numbers right now and found the same guy. 

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You know where I'm going next right OP? The account winrate is not 51.26%:

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OP, would you message me the player name you're referencing? Because from what I see, you either messed up checking the stats, or you're right:

... people do.

 

Also, you're overall idea I think is correct; it is easier to control one's fate in a CV, and the stats will support that at the end of the day I'm sure. So not sure why we had to lie to get there.

But you didn't reply to it. Care to explain where you got the 51.26% WR you claimed from a player w/a 73.38% WR?

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Sad part is these same unicums are boycotting CBs because of how OP CVs are in small battles...yet they aren't boycotting Ranked.

Can't use the same analogies of "CVs are balanced for 12 x 12 random battles" as an excuse...why no Ranked boycott?

Guess it doesn't matter when everybody (including the opposing team's CV) on both teams is a bunch of scrubs compared to you...it's only when the opposing team may also have a unicum CV (which is rare w/the small percentage of unicums that will happen in any individual match in ranked  but quite frequent in upper tier CBs) that it's "not fun".

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5 hours ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

The joke is you are equating the stats of unicums (that have all already ranked out btw...so they won't be in your way anymore) w/what you will see for the rest of the ranked season.

It's not actually the joke of ranked... it's just the joke of the first few days of ranked (although you may see a few that had IRL issues & started late & will do their afternoon of ranked later...but that is a general statement & any 1 person won't personally see a few...they will be lucky to see 1 in the rest of the season...unless they are playing very late at night when there are few people on that night).

That's not possible...he had examples w/purple stats & everything...I saw them...did you even look?

How can examples of purple stats not be true?

BTW OP...you have commented twice since this post:

But you didn't reply to it. Care to explain where you got the 51.26% WR you claimed from a player w/a 73.38% WR?

Are you asking me something or the OP?

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8 hours ago, Admiral_Andy said:

Not true at all. I have been playing Massachusetts which is op and do very well and get lots of high calibers while the CVs did not get near the top like you claim they should. Anyone saying the win is decided by one ship is not very experienced in the game. The way the team works together is the main factor in determining who wins.

Didn't say near the top on damage just that they win the game. A team with a very good CV player will win over a team poor CV play the vast majority of the time, in a 7 vs 7 game. I am experienced BTW

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6 hours ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Sad part is these same unicums are boycotting CBs because of how OP CVs are in small battles...yet they aren't boycotting Ranked.

Can't use the same analogies of "CVs are balanced for 12 x 12 random battles" as an excuse...why no Ranked boycott?

Guess it doesn't matter when everybody (including the opposing team's CV) on both teams is a bunch of scrubs compared to you...it's only when the opposing team may also have a unicum CV (which is rare w/the small percentage of unicums that will happen in any individual match in ranked  but quite frequent in upper tier CBs) that it's "not fun".

They are not really boycotting; they are just stomping their feet in the forum.  So using that for comparison is folly. 

 

The only reasons why a Unicom's does or doesn't play are: time, rewards, or if its getting boring.

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9 hours ago, z9_ said:

So in this ranked season you need an Enterprise to win.
In the 1v1 sprint, if you didn't have a Tirpitz you were screwed.

 

The definition of "needed to win" & "screwed " here is a little over the top.

 

A HECK of a lot of people playing ranked are not worried about how long it takes to get to where they want to go.  Way more then the stats people (who are always out in full the first weekend)

 

Me, I'm having fun in my Asashio -  guaranteed  3 targets in this weekend meta and can support well against everything else while maintaining really good concealment

 

Am I winning all the time?    Nope

 

Am I enjoying myself?  HECK YES

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48 minutes ago, Anonymous50 said:

The definition of "needed to win" & "screwed " here is a little over the top.

A HECK of a lot of people playing ranked are not worried about how long it takes to get to where they want to go.  Way more then the stats people (who are always out in full the first weekend)

Me, I'm having fun in my Asashio -  guaranteed  3 targets in this weekend meta and can support well against everything else while maintaining really good concealment

Am I winning all the time?    Nope

Am I enjoying myself?  HECK YES

Well of course, Big Daddy WeeGee is gonna throw you a bone once in a while to keep you strung out.

I was merely stating an observation. I couldn't care less, as I plan on leveling my Lexington this season. Whatever the best ship is doesn't matter, I want that easy xp.

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