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So they nurf the DPM and increase the rudder shift....on a ship made of glass....unhuh....

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2 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

So they nurf the DPM and increase the rudder shift....on a ship made of glass....unhuh....

They must've thought it was still over performing I guess. 

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Just now, TheArc said:

They must've thought it was still over performing I guess. 

She carries very well when you're playing smart. Trick is, that ruddershift keeps you alive more than people realize. You need to be able to turn on a dime when a salvo comes in or else it's game over.

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Would this allow you to stay in your smoke longer?

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Did none of you play CB last season? It was wall-to-wall Venezias.

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We ran one that just was always on the weak side and it would hold its own fairly well.

1 minute ago, Edgecase said:

Did none of you play CB last season? It was wall-to-wall Venezias.

 

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I have to assume that they consulted their oracle before making this nerf and it (The Spreadsheet) said to do so...

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14 minutes ago, Nachoo31 said:

We ran one that just was always on the weak side and it would hold its own fairly well.

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In the higher leagues, basically everything was stacking Venezias or Stalins.

2 minutes ago, eagle_lance said:

Just attacking the symptom, not the cause 

They're both issues, but I agree CV spotting was far more broken.

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Won't matter... I used to run acceleration, I'll just switch to rudder shift mod.  Reload change will force more thoughtful shooting... all they really needed to do was nerf the pen angle bonus of SAP.  OR it could be just a Henri slow motion nerf into the ground.

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30 minutes ago, Edgecase said:

Did none of you play CB last season? It was wall-to-wall Venezias.

Yep, but since WG is bound and determined to blow off their own feet, I for one welcome our new Goliath overlords next time T10 CB comes round... :Smile_sceptic:

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Months of Venezia data with no changes.

One bad CB season (was Venezia really at fault?) nerf hammer descends. No problems with the 2% less popular Stalingrad though right?

1st Venezia nerf is live for 5 days before WG has enough data to know that it needs more nerfs... yeah sure. 

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14 minutes ago, exray0 said:

Months of Venezia data with no changes.

One bad CB season (was Venezia really at fault?) nerf hammer descends. No problems with the 2% less popular Stalingrad though right?

1st Venezia nerf is live for 5 days before WG has enough data to know that it needs more nerfs... yeah sure. 

 

Maybe because they collect months of data first and the CW season was the last straw.

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7 minutes ago, Tigermaus said:

 

Maybe because they collect months of data first and the CW season was the last straw.

No, they just need 2 numbers

Venezia 34

Soviet Power Fantasy 32...

Cant have that!

Better get to nerfing!!

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2 hours ago, Dr_Venture said:

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So they nurf the DPM and increase the rudder shift....on a ship made of glass....unhuh....

It may be soft, but she's putting out an exceptionally high performance.  This was a reply I had in a thread about an upcoming Venezia nerf.

TLDR:  Venezia's numbers are as high as Henri IV was before WG nerfed the sh*t out of her.

On 7/1/2020 at 6:07 AM, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I knew people were going to question WG nerfing Venezia, but I've been following those stats off and on for quite a while and it becomes very clear:  Venezia is performing at an extremely high level.

 

I know it's been said in the past but WG pays a lot of attention to RU Server.  It's the largest server population out of the 4 official servers:  RU > EU > NA > Asia Server

They play a lot more battles than we do here in NA.  That said, some Tech Tree Tier X Cruiser stats:

RU Server 2nd Quarter 2020 (2020-03-28 thru 06-27)

Venezia 212,722 Battles Played / 52.63% WR / 89,904 Dmg Avg

Zao 290,979 / 48.96% / 67,073

Hindenburg 262,113 / 49.01% / 71,270

Henri IV 83,219 / 49.57% / 71,203

Goliath 61,787 / 52.09% / 81,869

Minotaur 232,198 / 50.44% / 62,413

Alexander Nevsky 63,803 / 50.49% / 69,680

Moskva 424,126 / 48.75% / 59,724 (I included Moskva because she transitioned from a Tech Tree Ship in this period)

Smolensk 552,017 / 48.49% / 67,275

Des Moines 288,606 / 51.37% / 65,539

Worcester 118,110 / 50.08% / 63,856

 

The numbers Venezia is doing now was what Henri IV was doing before WG started nerfing her heavily.

RU Server 2nd Quarter 2019 (2019-03-30 thru 06-29)

Henri IV 189,601 Battles / 52.33% WR / 87,572 Dmg Avg

Extremely strong parallels in performance from pre-nerf Henri IV to pre-nerf Venezia.

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2 hours ago, Edgecase said:

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In the higher leagues, basically everything was stacking Venezias or Stalins.

They're both issues, but I agree CV spotting was far more broken.

Ooof.

Never saw that break down before.  CV vs BB is telling.  There is no way 1x CV equals 1x BB.  Maybe 1x CV equals 2x BBs.

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6 minutes ago, Destroyer_KuroshioKai said:

Ooof.

Never saw that break down before.  CV vs BB is telling.

Not just CV, but specifically Hakuryu. BB was still more common than Midway, and Audacious was nowhere to be seen.

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2 hours ago, exray0 said:

Months of Venezia data with no changes.

One bad CB season (was Venezia really at fault?) nerf hammer descends. No problems with the 2% less popular Stalingrad though right?

1st Venezia nerf is live for 5 days before WG has enough data to know that it needs more nerfs... yeah sure. 

Stalin was popular because no bbs meant teams brought it as BB lite. Still a symptom of the cv meta, not a cause. 

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Just now, Ducky_shot said:

Stalin was popular because no bbs meant teams brought it as BB lite. Still a symptom of the cv meta, not a cause. 

Fair point. 

You would know, hasn't Stalin participation in comp been high ever since it was released? This wasn't just last season? 

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