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Why didnt the US premium DDs get the defAA buff?

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sims, kidd ,etc didn't get the buff to continous dmg from 50% to 75% for defAA, why did  you forget about them ?

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I asked this question a couple of days ago.  Mouse raised a fair point, once buffed its harder to undo the changes to premium ships.  So, it could be WG is going to test these changes on the tech tree ships first, then maybe the premiums will get the buff some time later.

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2 hours ago, GCTR21 said:

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So... you could care less about the buffs and WG trying to find a happy medium and just want to crap on CVs? That's not a great attitude to have when balancing things.

What if they find out the buff makes the US DD line near immune to CVs (not likely)? Obviously having a class immune to its counter isn't a great way to balance the game. Now if someone bought some prem DDs due to being immune to CVs, it would be kind of hard to revert the change without making a lot of people mad.

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Or it could just be;

“It’s the ship you paid for; what are you complaining about?”

-WG...

...maybe.

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20 minutes ago, JimmyTheRealPirate said:

Obviously having a class immune to its counter isn't a great way to balance the game.

How ironic that you should say that, when that is exactly what many players say about the currently ineffective state of many ship's AA, as well as the inability to directly strike, and sink, CVs because of their special defensive mechanics. 

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13 minutes ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

“It’s the ship you paid for; what are you complaining about?”

While it may be the ship you paid for, since the CV rework it's no longer the ship you're supposed to be fighting against, and it's certainly not the AA you paid for. So I'm guessing that is what many of the complaints are about. 

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2 hours ago, GCTR21 said:

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You think that's a cute, snarky saying, eh? :cap_haloween:Nope. 

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17 minutes ago, Umikami said:

While it may be the ship you paid for, since the CV rework it's no longer the ship you're supposed to be fighting against, and it's certainly not the AA you paid for. So I'm guessing that is what many of the complaints are about. 

Fair enough.

My complaints about the rework have less to do with AA as a whole, than the fact it happened at all.

My biggest complaint about AA is that I have to deal with WG’s immersive bovine byproducts at all. The noise, the oppressive visuals far in excess of anything ships have to deal with, give me screaming fits. Add in more noise from the stupid defensive fighters launching every time a seagull so much as flies within 10k of a carrier; and an idiot narrator screeching about every little thing; and it’s surprising I get even a little fun out of a class I used to adore playing in Co-op. (Where my suckage and or fun wouldn’t bother real players much.)

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Maybe because they don't have separate AA spec hulls like the tech-tree DDs used to, don't cry it's still an overall AA nerf.

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36 minutes ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

My complaints about the rework have less to do with AA as a whole, than the fact it happened at all.

I can easily agree with that!

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defensive fire consumable is really useless anyway regardless of what ship you have it on, no reason to be running it.

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17 hours ago, ITZ_ACE_BABY said:

defensive fire consumable is really useless anyway regardless of what ship you have it on, no reason to be running it.

Why? You need a dps to check to kill crapuntil the cv presses f to magically tell the planes to climb to 8000 meters and out of AA, if you dont kill the planes it doesnt matter if you damage them, they need to die to give him a longer rearm timer.

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Maybe for the same "reason" that premium USN standard BBs don't the special energy retention that their tech tree counterparts have (or are supposed to have)? 

 

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Honestly. How much does that buff help? DFAA on Fletcher and Gearing did almost nothing to T10 planes. I can't imagine it improves much now.

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2 hours ago, KilljoyCutter said:

Maybe for the same "reason" that premium USN standard BBs don't the special energy retention that their tech tree counterparts have (or are supposed to have)? 

 

Premium USN BBs also don't get standard access to the improved Repair Party that the Tech Tree ones do.  Alabama, Missouri don't get them.

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8 hours ago, chewonit said:

Honestly. How much does that buff help? DFAA on Fletcher and Gearing did almost nothing to T10 planes. I can't imagine it improves much now.

I'll take any buff for dds tbh

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On 7/11/2020 at 2:43 PM, Estimated_Prophet said:

Or it could just be;

“It’s the ship you paid for; what are you complaining about?”

-WG...

...maybe.

Only they haven't been the ships we paid for since the rework went live. No refunds were offered either. 

Atlanta is a joke against aircraft now. 

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14 hours ago, GCTR21 said:

Why? You need a dps to check to kill crapuntil the cv presses f to magically tell the planes to climb to 8000 meters and out of AA, if you dont kill the planes it doesnt matter if you damage them, they need to die to give him a longer rearm timer.

AA is so bad in current state even ships like wooster and mino just get pooped on by cv, having AA on a dd is so useless especially when you sacrifice speed boost for it.

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