1,136 [BROOK] TheGreatBlasto Banned 2,260 posts Report post #1 Posted July 6, 2020 Just wanted to run this up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes it. Kamikaze pilots! You send out a strike against a ship which fails. Do you simply have the survivors return to the CV or do you order them to kamikaze the target? Think about it. What if sinking that target is the last minute difference between a victory and a defeat? 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,136 [BROOK] TheGreatBlasto Banned 2,260 posts Report post #2 Posted July 6, 2020 This way you spare the pilots the Flight of Shame back to the flatdeck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [WOLFH] CO_Valle Members 1,102 posts 5,900 battles Report post #3 Posted July 6, 2020 The subject of Kamikazes has been brought several times in the past. It won't happen, for the same reason swastikas are not used. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,110 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 28,633 posts 15,081 battles Report post #4 Posted July 6, 2020 Just now, CO_Valle said: The subject of Kamikazes has been brought several times in the past. It won't happen, for the same reason swastikas are not used. This and while individual IJN CV pilots did suicide into planes and ships the Kamikaze planes were launched from land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,156 [WPORT] Wolfswetpaws Members 15,234 posts 19,116 battles Report post #5 Posted July 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, TheGreatBlasto said: Just wanted to run this up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes it. No. Just no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,136 [BROOK] TheGreatBlasto Banned 2,260 posts Report post #6 Posted July 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, CO_Valle said: It won't happen That's what they said about subs. I first asked about subs in 2016 and people scoffed and said it would never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,079 1Sherman Alpha Tester 6,683 posts 3,338 battles Report post #7 Posted July 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheGreatBlasto said: That's what they said about subs. I first asked about subs in 2016 and people scoffed and said it would never happen. Subs are one thing. Adding an option for planes where they do a literal suicide bombing is another entirely. I mean, just listen to yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [WOLFH] CO_Valle Members 1,102 posts 5,900 battles Report post #8 Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TheGreatBlasto said: That's what they said about subs. I first asked about subs in 2016 and people scoffed and said it would never happen. The submarine battle was/is a Proof of Concept of a ship type thought to have no place in the game. You must see the difference between a ship type and a political/ideological/etc in-game representation. EDIT: Also there is no gameplay reward other than getting deplaned faster, and you can do that pretty easily if you want to. Edited July 6, 2020 by CO_Valle Deplaned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,195 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,011 battles Report post #9 Posted July 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, CO_Valle said: The subject of Kamikazes has been brought several times in the past. It won't happen, for the same reason swastikas are not used. Remember when Submarines wont ever happen ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 43,398 battles Report post #10 Posted July 6, 2020 Blasto what happened? This bait is not up to your usual high standard! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,136 [BROOK] TheGreatBlasto Banned 2,260 posts Report post #11 Posted July 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, CO_Valle said: Also there is no gameplay reward other than getting deplaned faster, and you can do that pretty easily if you want to. I see it only as a last ditch option if you really need to destroy that one target to turn an imminent defeat into a victory. I have had two or three battles over the weekend where the red team was ahead a couple of hundred points but only had one ship left to our two or three which included a CV. A kamikaze attack might have won it for us. Who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,687 1SneakyDevil Members 3,792 posts 23,987 battles Report post #12 Posted July 6, 2020 This isn't bait, it's more like stinky chum. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,687 1SneakyDevil Members 3,792 posts 23,987 battles Report post #13 Posted July 6, 2020 49 minutes ago, TheGreatBlasto said: This way you spare the pilots the Flight of Shame back to the flatdeck. There are no pilots...lol. Just very salty CV drivers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,111 [FOXEH] Umikami Banned 14,364 posts 22,895 battles Report post #14 Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TheGreatBlasto said: Do you simply have the survivors return to the CV or do you order them to kamikaze the target? While CVs have eternally regenerating aircraft? No, I don't think so! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [WOLFH] CO_Valle Members 1,102 posts 5,900 battles Report post #15 Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TheGreatBlasto said: Kamikaze pilots! You send out a strike against a ship which fails. Do you simply have the survivors return to the CV or do you order them to kamikaze the target? You have already made your attack, you want an option to attack even when you no longer have ordinance?. Even if you were to activate the option before the attack run the mechanic sounds unbalanced and exploitable. 25 minutes ago, TheGreatBlasto said: I see it only as a last ditch option if you really need to destroy that one target to turn an imminent defeat into a victory. I have had two or three battles over the weekend where the red team was ahead a couple of hundred points but only had one ship left to our two or three which included a CV. A kamikaze attack might have won it for us. Who knows? You launched your attack and the red ship dodged or otherwise survived. The Reds deserve the win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
521 [V_V_V] Charon2018 Members 1,324 posts 19,741 battles Report post #16 Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, TheGreatBlasto said: have had two or three battles over the weekend where the red team was ahead a couple of hundred points but only had one ship left to our two or three which included a CV. A kamikaze attack might have won it for us. Who knows? CV Ramming Speed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,068 [KAPPA] Shoggoth_pinup Members 3,313 posts 10,844 battles Report post #17 Posted July 7, 2020 This mechanic would only have any use against a CV, honestly. And that'd completely defeat the point of what WG is going for: no CV sniping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,136 [BROOK] TheGreatBlasto Banned 2,260 posts Report post #18 Posted July 7, 2020 Dateline: June 2022 Wargaming is proud to announce the introduction of Kamikazes to its flagship game World of Warships. Changes will go live with the next update. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
361 [F4E] gbgentry Alpha Tester 1,194 posts Report post #19 Posted July 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Umikami said: While CVs have eternally regenerating aircraft? No, I don't think so! What if they couldn’t be regenerated if you attack this way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,626 [CLUMP] LastRemnant Members 2,828 posts 2,984 battles Report post #20 Posted July 7, 2020 3 hours ago, TheGreatBlasto said: Just wanted to run this up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes it. Kamikaze pilots! You send out a strike against a ship which fails. Do you simply have the survivors return to the CV or do you order them to kamikaze the target? Think about it. What if sinking that target is the last minute difference between a victory and a defeat? So you want CV players to deplane themselves because eventually, you would run out of aircraft So either you are proposing this to make CV useless in battle or this was just a random thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,111 [FOXEH] Umikami Banned 14,364 posts 22,895 battles Report post #21 Posted July 7, 2020 2 hours ago, gbgentry said: What if they couldn’t be regenerated if you attack this way? Then players from sea to shining sea would be dancing in the streets while thanking every God that ever existed in the minds of men. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,241 Nikolay_Kuznetsov_ Banned 1,684 posts Report post #22 Posted July 7, 2020 If this were ever to become a reality in game, The more you use them the sloppier the kamikaze planes become. Experience dies with the pilot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
268 alex08060 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,809 posts 1,670 battles Report post #23 Posted July 7, 2020 CV haters will demand AA buffs if this ever happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,692 Moggytwo Members 827 posts 20 battles Report post #24 Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, TheGreatBlasto said: That's what they said about subs. I first asked about subs in 2016 and people scoffed and said it would never happen. 5 hours ago, Tachnechdorus said: Remember when Submarines wont ever happen ??? It concerns me that you both think there is a parallel here, and it isn't immediately apparent why it will never happen. Subs were not introduced previously because of technical difficulties - WG couldn't work out a way to introduce them to the game that they felt made them a worthwhile and balanced addition to the game. Kamikaze pilots will never be introduced because they are culturally inappropriate. There would be many people who would be deeply offended if a mechanic like that was introduced, and WG's natural response to concerns like those is to, quite understandably, avoid them. This is why there is no Rising Sun flag or Swastikas for example. It is a complete non-starter of a suggestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
