1,852 [FORM] TheArc Members 2,647 posts 14,505 battles Report post #1 Posted July 2, 2020 I assume this has to impact the EU server, but will it impact the others as well? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53253195 Loot boxes: Lords call for 'immediate' gambling regulation The House of Lords Gambling Committee says video game loot boxes should be regulated under gambling laws. The Lords say they should be classified as "games of chance" - which would bring them under the Gambling Act 2005. "If a product looks like gambling and feels like gambling, it should be regulated as gambling," their report says. And they warn that such a change should not wait. "The government must act immediately to bring loot boxes within the remit of gambling legislation and regulation," said a statement accompanying the report. Loot boxes have long been controversial in video games. They offer players a chance at a randomised reward when opened. To further complicate matters, boxes can often be bought for real money, and the rewards can sometimes be traded. Lord Grade, chairman of the committee, told BBC Breakfast that lots of other countries have already started to regulate loot boxes because "they can see the dangers" which is teaching "kids to gamble". He said the Gambling Act was "way behind what was actually happening in the market" but he added that the "overwhelming majority" of the report's recommendations "could be enacted today" as they don't require legislation. Click link to read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53253195 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21,649 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 28,358 posts 24,127 battles Report post #2 Posted July 2, 2020 WG hasn't had event boxes for an age because of similar legislation in Belgium. It's why WOWS went to the system we have now, where we can effectively see the first card on the pile and elect not to draw it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,291 [ARS] Helstrem Beta Testers 7,591 posts 8,278 battles Report post #3 Posted July 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: WG hasn't had event boxes for an age because of similar legislation in Belgium. It's why WOWS went to the system we have now, where we can effectively see the first card on the pile and elect not to draw it. If actually challenged I doubt this method would hold up to scrutiny. It is just pushing the gamble back one step. Sure, you know what you are getting isn't what you want, but by getting it you turn the next card, and that might be what you actually want. The gamble is still there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,763 [CMFRT] KilljoyCutter [CMFRT] Banned 16,985 posts Report post #4 Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Helstrem said: If actually challenged I doubt this method would hold up to scrutiny. It is just pushing the gamble back one step. Sure, you know what you are getting isn't what you want, but by getting it you turn the next card, and that might be what you actually want. The gamble is still there. It's a line that would hold up or not depending on which court it was in, I think. (IANAL) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
333 [SNGNS] TobTorp Members 611 posts 7,126 battles Report post #5 Posted July 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said: WG hasn't had event boxes for an age because of similar legislation in Belgium. It's why WOWS went to the system we have now, where we can effectively see the first card on the pile and elect not to draw it. funnily enough we are getting crates again for the german cvs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21,649 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 28,358 posts 24,127 battles Report post #6 Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, TobTorp said: funnily enough we are getting crates again for the german cvs. Yeah, but the distribution system is different. I'll be very surprised if they are openly for sale; I reckon we'll be earning most if not all of them in missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
333 [SNGNS] TobTorp Members 611 posts 7,126 battles Report post #7 Posted July 2, 2020 true, true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 ConcentricArc Members 12 posts Report post #8 Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Sad state of affairs when everything, has to be regulated in this world. Because people are too stupid, to think for themselves.... Edited July 2, 2020 by ConcentricArc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,519 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #9 Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, ConcentricArc said: Sad state of affairs when everything, has to be regulated in this world. Because people are too stupid, to think for themselves.... Personal responsibility is so old fashioned. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,291 [ARS] Helstrem Beta Testers 7,591 posts 8,278 battles Report post #10 Posted July 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said: It's a line that would hold up or not depending on which court it was in, I think. (IANAL) Except in this case we're talking about legislators writing new regulations, so it wouldn't be about a court or jury so much as what legislators decide is gambling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,763 [CMFRT] KilljoyCutter [CMFRT] Banned 16,985 posts Report post #11 Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, Helstrem said: Except in this case we're talking about legislators writing new regulations, so it wouldn't be about a court or jury so much as what legislators decide is gambling. In some countries, it's always going to come down to a court, unless the legislators specifically look at something like the "you can see this card, would you like to take it and flip the next card" system that we've seen in WOWS lately and spell out that it counts under the law, which I doubt will happen... it's not like the House of Lords is up on the minutia of battlebotes games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
626 [O_O] Rustyhole Members 674 posts Report post #12 Posted August 12, 2020 All personal responsibility is going out the window, let the good old State take care of everything and tell you what you can and cannot do, for your own good of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15,219 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 34,967 posts 29,058 battles Report post #13 Posted August 12, 2020 Sooner Lootboxes are gone the better. Ever since F2P has entered gaming, it's only ushered in worse things. I still remember when people whined in MMORPGs that paying $25 subscription / month was too expensive. Then when they switch to F2P games they're blowing hundreds of dollars / month Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
