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I want this post to be a discussion on what is generally considered the so-called "worst ships in the whole game". 

(NOTE: Just to be clear: this is not about the ships that are "the worst" because they are overpowered motherf***ers, like Belfast, Smolensk, and Kremlin, but the ships that are general considered bad in terms of their tier and what they can or cannot do) 

This will be just a small list of ships that I have heard from other players talking in the forums, talking in the game, or from my own clanmates, and other WoWS gossip.. on what is the "worst" ships.   I will be giving my opinion of IJN Izumo, HMS Monarch, KMS Yorck, and USS Colorado.  

Please feel free to add what you think about these ship, and mention/discuss what other ships you think are "the worst" in the game.  I would love to hear your thoughts!

Now without further ado: 

 

IJN Izumo 

From so many people, I have heard that this is the "worst" of the IJN battleships...especially considered how great her Tier X successor is.  Now, if you look at the screenshot below, you will see that I have had a great game in my Izumo, which I am currently grinding to get my own Yamato.  I could have been just lucky....or perhaps not?  See, I think that Izumo is your typical "floating fortress": slow, but can tank decently well, and also hit hard if necessary.  A Stock Hull and B Stock Hull are pathetic for Izumo, I will agree, but C Stock Hull is not bad at all.  Her secondaries have a decent range for a BB, and he guns can hid hard with AP.  The only major flaw I see with Izumo is that her guns are grossly inaccurate, which makes it frustrating to the player who wants to get those sweet citadel shots and pen damage.  

Honestly, I think Izumo is an "decently good" ship.  You just have to make sure you are not sailing alone with her (or you will surely die, because you are big, fat, and cannot turn on a dime) and make sure you are angling. I think that Izumo can be handled well if you are aware of her strengths and weaknesses.  

Mudkip's ranking for Izumo:  9/10

 

HMS Monarch 

This ship is a ship that I am mixed about....I can see why this ship is disliked by many players (my clanmates especially do not like this ship).  Frankly, Monarch is like her predecessor, Tier VII King George V , in terms of gameplay, just with bigger guns (but one less of them).  The only thing that I see hurting Monarch is her tier placement being at VIII.  From my experience, Monarch can hold pretty well against her own tier and lower tiers, but not so much against Tier IXs and Xs.  Monarch though, has great chance to start fires with her HE shells, and turns (almost on a dime) with her Royal Navy rudder, and has great stealth for a BB.  From my own experience with this ship...I do not think that she is bad at all.  I even tried her out back in the 1v1 Ranked Sprint  event, and she preformed quite well as a "single ship fleet". HE shells did great against enemy DDs, HE shells hit decently hard against enemy cruisers and BBs, and her good maneuverability make it not so difficult to dodge incoming CV or DD torpedoes. 

Mudkip's ranking for Monarch:  8/10

 

KMS Yorck

Ugh....this ship, if in my opinion, the poorest of Tier VII ships, bar none.  The turrets turn slowly, and HE does not light fires that often, and you only have 8 guns.  Most Tier VII heavy cruisers sport at least 9 guns, which do better penetration (IJN Myoko) or have better arcs and fire chance (USS New Orleans and Soviet Ship Schors) .  The only saving grace of Yorck is that she gets LOTS of torpedo launchers, and has great range for her hydro.  If anyone has a better opinion about this ship, I would love to hear it.  This ship just irked me as I struggled to grind my way through it to KMS Admiral Hipper.  

Mudkip's ranking for Yorck:  1/10

 

USS Colorado

Ah yes...now we have come to the mighty Colorado.  Ever heard of the saying, "the team with the most Colorados loses"?  Yeah...that used to be a saying back a few years ago when USN battleships where new to WoWS.  Colorado SUCKED.  But now....I can say that she is not as bad as you might think she is.  Colorado sports eight 16 inch rifles, which WILL do MASSVIE damage if they connect properly to unfortunate cruisers and battleships.  The only think that is bad about the guns is that their are only 8 of them.  Makes me think that WG deliberately made Soviet Ship Sinop to just be better than Colorado, by sporting the same 16 inch rifles but having more of them.  

Well, Colorado unfortunately also is slow as a pregnant sow.  Do NOT expect Colorado to do wonders for you in terms of maneuverability.  However, despite this, Colorado is quite the hunk when it comes to tanking.  From my experience, Colorado can tank very well, if properly angled.  Only fire burner DDs, cruisers, and CVs are your major threats.   Also, luckily for this ship, WG has been steadily buffing her up, so that she is no longer the terrible ship as she was initially.   My advice when sailing Colorado into battle is that you build her to withstand fires and flooding, and that you take the Fire Prevention captain skill.

Mudkip's ranking for Colorado:  7/10 

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EDIT:  I changed my initial rating of Izumo from 7/10 to 9/10 due to me having another great game in her.  I destroyed a enemy Dm. Donskoi and Georgia, and dueled an enemy Siegfried (and barely survived him).  Plus I added 3 new screenshots. 

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I changed my rating of Izumo from 7/10 to 9/10 and added screenshots
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1 minute ago, Admiral_Mudkip said:

KMS Yorck

Ugh....this ship, if in my opinion, the poorest of Tier VII ships, bar none.  The turrets turn slowly, and HE does not light fires that often, and you only have 8 guns.  Most Tier VII heavy cruisers sport at least 9 guns, which do better penetration (IJN Myoko) or have better arcs and fire chance (USS New Orleans and Soviet Ship Schors) .  The only saving grace of Yorck is that she gets LOTS of torpedo launchers, and has great range for her hydro.  If anyone has a better opinion about this ship, I would love to hear it.  This ship just irked me as I struggled to grind my way through it to KMS Admiral Hipper.  

Mudkip's ranking for Yorck:  1/10

not sure what Yorck youve been playing, ever since it got that buff to its AP its just as capable of being a beast as the other German CAs

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7 minutes ago, Admiral_Mudkip said:

HMS Monarch 

 

This ship is a ship that I am mixed about....I can see why this ship is disliked by many players (my clanmates especially do not like this ship).  Frankly, Monarch is like her predecessor, Tier VII King George V , in terms of gameplay, just with bigger guns (but one less of them).  The only thing that I see hurting Monarch is her tier placement being at VIII.  From my experience, Monarch can hold pretty well against her own tier and lower tiers, but not so much against Tier IXs and Xs.  Monarch though, has great chance to start fires with her HE shells, and turns (almost on a dime) with her Royal Navy rudder, and has great stealth for a BB.  From my own experience with this ship...I do not think that she is bad at all.  I even tried her out back in the 1v1 Ranked Sprint  event, and she preformed quite well as a "single ship fleet". HE shells did great against enemy DDs, HE shells hit decently hard against enemy cruisers and BBs, and her good maneuverability make it not so difficult to dodge incoming CV or DD torpedoes. 

Mudkip's ranking for Monarch:  8/10

I'd personally argue the Lion is worse than the Monarch these days. The Monarch may only get 380mm guns but they're good 380mm guns, accurate and fairly high pen combined with great AP DPM (best in the tier).

The Lion isprobably the worst tier 9 BB for three very big reasons:

1) Raised Citadel and 32mm all over means Yammies eat that thing for lunch. This means it's just as vulnerable as the Monarch despite being a tier higher.  Not to mention it eats IFHE HE pens all the live long day.

2) Dispersion, unlike the Monarch which has accurate guns, the Lions guns are, now that the german BBs had their dispersion ellipsis buffed, probably the WORST guns in the game. Shots go all over the place. I've been near point blank on the Lion (on the EU server) aiming at the waterline on a Yammie who is broadside on...and the shots either dispersed into the water or landed on the superstructure, I had it happen several games in a row. 

3) Her AP pen is actually WORSE than the Monarch thanks to the short fuse time...yeah you heard me, the tier 9 has worse pen than the tier 8 which has guns that are small for that tier.

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The list is open to interpretation.

Any ship, can have the title of worst ship in the game from one patch to the next... Good example of that,

The Kamikaze...

  • Power creep of other ships in her tiers of play
  • More hydro ship then when she first came out
  • torp detection is bad across all tiers.

IMO Krespykreame will always take the crown... That was before Russian biased infiltrated the game.

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IMO, most of Izumo's bad reputation is from her pre-buff days.

 

She used to be coated in 32mm armor all over the place and her concealment was one of the worst in the game.  WG greatly improved both.

 

In addition, as someone that was used to facing them, I always had a healthy respect for her guns.  Sure the 3rd turret is all but useless, but with Izumo players typically firing 6 gun salvos, they were accurate and hard hitting.  As an opponent,  I had to respect them.  Then WG buffed them.

 

Izumo now with the thick deck armor and next to no superstructure to farm is actually really annoying when I try to HE Spam her.  If you go for traditional superstructure farming, most of the time your shells are hitting that thick deck armor for non-pens.

 

The only sore point Izumo really has is the 3rd turret position.

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St Louis (t9 MN). Out of all the ships I hear were bad Emerald, Hipper, NO, T7 Pensacola, I enjoyed every one. The St Louis I couldn't make it work. I stay at range, I spammed HE, I went fast, I turned always. Didn't matter I got trippled citted all the time. At 180k XP I rage boosted to the Henry.

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Myogi, 6 guns, that while big for tier 4, aiming is more a suggestion than actually having control of the guns.

I never really had a complaint about the Izumo, I think that she suffered from being a tier 9, with very limited comparisons for a long time. Used to be there was only 2 tier 9 Battleships, Iowa and Izumo. Iowa is a better ship. Izumo was a stepping stone to the queen of overmatch, the Yamato. After Friedrich der Große came out, Izumo didn't look nearly as bad.

 

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15 minutes ago, slokill_1 said:

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LOL...ship is OP... seriously...  good guns, smoke, hydro and 2 racks of 7k torps per side... its a DD killer, a CA killer with her guns, and a BB killer w the torps.  Her ONLY drawback is she won't last long if you play her to her weaknesses, like NOT using the smoke and trying to out muscle another CA.

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Oh god, I HATED the Shiratsuyu. I could never make the thing work. I tried running smoke but my damage output suffered a lot but when I run TRB I get CVs and get blasted. Had the thing for 3 years, finally free xped to the Akizuki today and first game I hit 50k damage and #2 on scoreboard in a good win. On the bright side spending so much time in Shira meant I had a 14 point Captain so having IFHE and CE on Akizuki feels AMAZING. I swear the amount of pens I can get is hilarious an the damage just racks up no problem. 

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So my worst ships.  A month ago it was the Albemarle.  Wow she's a big stinky....you know what.  You have a pretty good Devonshire to essentially the same ship up a tier, and can't take a hit like the Devonshire...a real cluster for citadels.  I mean her lack of armor almost makes a Neptune or a Mino feel like the have real armor...coupled with lack of range on the guns and its a slaughterhouse for Albemarle Captains.

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30 minutes ago, Admiral_Mudkip said:

I want this post to be a discussion on what is generally considered the so-called "worst ships in the whole game". 

(NOTE: Just to be clear: this is not about the ships that are "the worst" because they are overpowered motherf***ers, like Belfast, Smolensk, and Kremlin, but the ships that are general considered bad in terms of their tier and what they can or cannot do) 

This will be just a small list of ships that I have heard from other players talking in the forums, talking in the game, or from my own clanmates, and other WoWS gossip.. on what is the "worst" ships.   I will be giving my opinion of IJN Izumo, HMS Monarch, KMS Yorck, and USS Colorado.  

Please feel free to add what you think about these ship, and mention/discuss what other ships you think are "the worst" in the game.  I would love to hear your thoughts!

Now without further ado: 

 

IJN Izumo 

From so many people, I have heard that this is the "worst" of the IJN battleships...especially considered how great her Tier X successor is.  Now, if you look at the screenshot below, you will see that I have had a great game in my Izumo, which I am currently grinding to get my own Yamato.  I could have been just lucky....or perhaps not?  See, I think that Izumo is your typical "floating fortress": slow, but can tank decently well, and also hit hard if necessary.  A Stock Hull and B Stock Hull are pathetic for Izumo, I will agree, but C Stock Hull is not bad at all.  Her secondaries have a decent range for a BB, and he guns can hid hard with AP.  The only major flaw I see with Izumo is that her guns are grossly inaccurate, which makes it frustrating to the player who wants to get those sweet citadel shots and pen damage.  

Honestly, I think Izumo is an "okay" ship.  You just have to make sure you are not sailing alone with her (or you will surely die, because you are big, fat, and cannot turn on a dime) and make sure you are angling.  The amazing battle I got with her as shown in the screenshot was only ONE out of like 3 great battles I had in her, out of, like 15 games I player her so far.   

One last thing I will say about Izumo is that I think that a major portion of why she is so hated is because players are only looking out for grinding Tier X Yamato, and think of Izumo as a annoying grind and one of those ships that you "should Free XP your way through".  I disagree.   I think that Izumo can be handled well if you are aware of her strengths and weaknesses.  

Mudkip's ranking for Izumo:  7/10

 

HMS Monarch 

This ship is a ship that I am mixed about....I can see why this ship is disliked by many players (my clanmates especially do not like this ship).  Frankly, Monarch is like her predecessor, Tier VII King George V , in terms of gameplay, just with bigger guns (but one less of them).  The only thing that I see hurting Monarch is her tier placement being at VIII.  From my experience, Monarch can hold pretty well against her own tier and lower tiers, but not so much against Tier IXs and Xs.  Monarch though, has great chance to start fires with her HE shells, and turns (almost on a dime) with her Royal Navy rudder, and has great stealth for a BB.  From my own experience with this ship...I do not think that she is bad at all.  I even tried her out back in the 1v1 Ranked Sprint  event, and she preformed quite well as a "single ship fleet". HE shells did great against enemy DDs, HE shells hit decently hard against enemy cruisers and BBs, and her good maneuverability make it not so difficult to dodge incoming CV or DD torpedoes. 

Mudkip's ranking for Monarch:  8/10

 

KMS Yorck

Ugh....this ship, if in my opinion, the poorest of Tier VII ships, bar none.  The turrets turn slowly, and HE does not light fires that often, and you only have 8 guns.  Most Tier VII heavy cruisers sport at least 9 guns, which do better penetration (IJN Myoko) or have better arcs and fire chance (USS New Orleans and Soviet Ship Schors) .  The only saving grace of Yorck is that she gets LOTS of torpedo launchers, and has great range for her hydro.  If anyone has a better opinion about this ship, I would love to hear it.  This ship just irked me as I struggled to grind my way through it to KMS Admiral Hipper.  

Mudkip's ranking for Yorck:  1/10

 

USS Colorado

Ah yes...now we have come to the mighty Colorado.  Ever heard of the saying, "the team with the most Colorados loses"?  Yeah...that used to be a saying back a few years ago when USN battleships where new to WoWS.  Colorado SUCKED.  But now....I can say that she is not as bad as you might think she is.  Colorado sports eight 16 inch rifles, which WILL do MASSVIE damage if they connect properly to unfortunate cruisers and battleships.  The only think that is bad about the guns is that their are only 8 of them.  Makes me think that WG deliberately made Soviet Ship Sinop to just be better than Colorado, by sporting the same 16 inch rifles but having more of them.  

Well, Colorado unfortunately also is slow as a pregnant sow.  Do NOT expect Colorado to do wonders for you in terms of maneuverability.  However, despite this, Colorado is quite the hunk when it comes to tanking.  From my experience, Colorado can tank very well, if properly angled.  Only fire burner DDs, cruisers, and CVs are your major threats.   Also, luckily for this ship, WG has been steadily buffing her up, so that she is no longer the terrible ship as she was initially.   My advice when sailing Colorado into battle is that you build her to withstand fires and flooding, and that you take the Fire Prevention captain skill.

Mudkip's ranking for Colorado:  7/10 

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Izuma has received some badly needed buffs and is a joy now other than being so slow compared to everything else in the upper tiers, a solid 9.5/10.

Yorck used to live and die with its HE because of the AP being unable to hit anything outside of 10 Km but with the changes to AP it is now a solid 9/10.

I haven't played my Monarch outside of co-op so do not know how it is performing now but is was a good but not great ship when I leveled through it so your 8/10 makes sense.

The Colorado suffers from lack of speed but if you put her where she needs to be she is a terror to anything in range. 9.5/10 when you position correctly and 4/10 when you do not because you cannot react to changes that are far from you.

15 minutes ago, slokill_1 said:

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A completely different beast now that you have leveled past her and she hasn't changed and is the best choice for plane kills in cruisers, 9/10. Give her a spin and you might be surprised particularly if you do well with the RN CL's.

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Mutsuki and it's two (yes 2!) total guns

With a 12 sec reload time.

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39 minutes ago, slokill_1 said:

E M E R A L D

Tell that to the Wyoming and Kongo I sailed between and fed sixteen torpedoes to.

Yeah, maybe a one-off kind of deal, but you’ll not get me to say anything bad about her after that.

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Ognevoi. It's the ship that almost made not want to grind the grozovoi. 

2 guns with horrible DPM and terribly slow torpedoes

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Ive got to agree with the Yorck. I absolutely hated it and had to free xp my way the f*ck outta there! Just could not make it work. Every other KMS cruiser I am at a 50+% with Yorck it was 40%.Yuck! 

I also loathed Colorado. It was more boring than awful. The speed killed all fun. Free Xp'd out of that one too.

People seem to love it, but I really hated the Omaha too. 

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Hawkins?

almost always got uptier figting T6 if not T7

Weird gun angle, terrible ballistic, floating citadel, questionable AP penetration, have the size of a moon, BB level concealment, short gun range, 2 torps at each side, slow and take forever to turn

among my T5 cruiser Furutaka, Omaha, and Mikoyan. Hawkins suffer

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35 minutes ago, Potohto928 said:

Mutsuki and it's two (yes 2!) total guns

With a 12 sec reload time.

You didn't bought her 2nd gun, reducing her reload to 5.5 sec. I did the same mistake almost 3-4 year ago, and it is not pleasant. Even with that reload, fighting with 2 guns is PAINFUL to say the least...

49 minutes ago, wstugamd said:

St Louis (t9 MN). Out of all the ships I hear were bad Emerald, Hipper, NO, T7 Pensacola, I enjoyed every one. The St Louis I couldn't make it work. I stay at range, I spammed HE, I went fast, I turned always. Didn't matter I got trippled citted all the time. At 180k XP I rage boosted to the Henry.

St Louis is just a thicker Charles Martel. She does not offer any type of improvement on her guns, but Charles was not that bad. Holding my opinion as I just adquired her last week and have not played her.

1 hour ago, slokill_1 said:

E M E R A L D

Emerald got buffed some 6 month ago. There was nothing squishier tier per tier as her, but with the buff to her deck armor she is relatively alright. Not meaning she is great, mind you.

1 hour ago, Admiral_Mudkip said:

KMS Yorck

Ugh....this ship, if in my opinion, the poorest of Tier VII ships, bar none.  The turrets turn slowly, and HE does not light fires that often, and you only have 8 guns.  Most Tier VII heavy cruisers sport at least 9 guns, which do better penetration (IJN Myoko) or have better arcs and fire chance (USS New Orleans and Soviet Ship Schors) .  The only saving grace of Yorck is that she gets LOTS of torpedo launchers, and has great range for her hydro.  If anyone has a better opinion about this ship, I would love to hear it.  This ship just irked me as I struggled to grind my way through it to KMS Admiral Hipper.  

Mudkip's ranking for Yorck:  1/10

 

Yorck is miles better than her version 2 years ago, the AP was as close to useless as you can get, but with the buff to her shell velocity, Krupp and air drag they are decent now. Armor wise she is the same as ever, squishy as almost all other tier 7.

Monarch I do not find her that bad, but I require to play more that ship too. Some consider her painful because 380mm guns and her HE performance is not as great as other Royal Navy ships. Her AP is better tho.

Izumo got buffed a year ago (I think). She is average comparing all tier 9 battleships, while the hull is meh, it is far tankier than she was previously, and even tankier to HE spam than anything american offered right now. 

Colorado has suffered horribly, but she has got buffs too. And her guns has always been relatively accurate and punchy for the tier. She is fine in my opinion.

 

The worst ships I have played (tech tree ones) are Albemarle (don´t have het but got a taste in public test, it was not pretty), Myogi (her 6 guns are a reminder for those that get frustated over BBs failing shots that it can always get worse), Emerald (despite her buffs she is still squishy), Mutsuki (despite her torps, trying to gun down a 1k HP BB or CA is an exercise in frustation)

In premium ships, it is always different, as those don't need to have a concept associated to the tech tree to be avilable, but some are loathsome to adquire. Some of those are Mikasa (only 4 guns in 2 turrets, and what I think is the worst dispersion in the game), Yahagi (her guns are close to useless, with a long reload to boot, and her torps are unusable under normal circustances), Krasny Krym and Viribus Unitis (the thing with these 2 is that they are tier 4.5, too strong for tier 4 but too weak for tier 5, but you can make them work), Prinz Eitel Friedrich, Poltava and Odin (those 3 has a thing in common too, their guns are nearly useless in normal circunstances, at least Odin has secondaries and torpedoes).

There are more premiums not recommended, but those are mostly because the tech tree has equal or better performance than them. I decided to put the ones which performance is awful

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1 hour ago, Admiral_Mudkip said:

KMS Yorck

Ugh....this ship, if in my opinion, the poorest of Tier VII ships, bar none.  The turrets turn slowly, and HE does not light fires that often, and you only have 8 guns.  Most Tier VII heavy cruisers sport at least 9 guns, which do better penetration (IJN Myoko) or have better arcs and fire chance (USS New Orleans and Soviet Ship Schors) .  The only saving grace of Yorck is that she gets LOTS of torpedo launchers, and has great range for her hydro.  If anyone has a better opinion about this ship, I would love to hear it.  This ship just irked me as I struggled to grind my way through it to KMS Admiral Hipper.  

um, Yorck has better HE pen (53mm) than any other cruiser in the game except Aegir, Siegfried, Graf Spee, Drake, Cheshire, and Goliath plus her HE is weird for German cruisers doing 2900 damage compared to Hipper's 2500.

As for her AP pen, on par with American and Italian AP for best pen at tier, and does 5600 damage

and she gets a 25mm bow, which is great when top tier, and the most range of any T7 cruisers at 17.9km, with shells taking only 10 secs to make it there.

Yorck is far better than her early days, possible even a bit over tuned if you know what you're doing

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15 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said:

Mikasa is the worst t2 bb.

She is also the best Tier 2 BB. :Smile-_tongue: What she desperately needs is a bit of a buff to the secondary range, enough to make them sort of useful instead of useless unless someone is new.

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1 hour ago, Admiral_Mudkip said:

KMS Yorck

Ugh....this ship, if in my opinion, the poorest of Tier VII ships, bar none.  The turrets turn slowly, and HE does not light fires that often, and you only have 8 guns.  Most Tier VII heavy cruisers sport at least 9 guns, which do better penetration (IJN Myoko) or have better arcs and fire chance (USS New Orleans and Soviet Ship Schors) .  The only saving grace of Yorck is that she gets LOTS of torpedo launchers, and has great range for her hydro.  If anyone has a better opinion about this ship, I would love to hear it.  This ship just irked me as I struggled to grind my way through it to KMS Admiral Hipper.  

Mudkip's ranking for Yorck:  1/10

 Yorck is a nasty customer when handled right. She's fairly small for a T7 cruiser of any type. That allows her to tank by kiting better than you'd suspect. She has good range, her 210 HE hits HARD, her 210 AP hits HARDER. I played through her as my first T7 long before the AP buff and didn't stop playing her till I was around 250 matches. She teaches positioning and kiting pretty well because of the turrets. I may be the only wows player who wishes she had her old AP back. The arcs on those things were terrible but she could do at least one thing that no other ship could do. I had no problem dropping Cits on island camping cruisers from 14-17km. Atlanta thinks its safe... eh, not so much.

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1 minute ago, BrushWolf said:

She is also the best Tier 2 BB. :Smile-_tongue: What she desperately needs is a bit of a buff to the secondary range, enough to make them sort of useful instead of useless unless someone is new.

Yeah, I don't have her, but I will keep her if WG give her for free again, but not gonna spend 2k doubloons on her unless I have nothing to do with it. The original brawler in the game :Smile_teethhappy:

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USS Iowa is garbage. 

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