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Is Fiji still a good ship?

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I haven't kept up with the nerfs and buffs to various ships in my harbor and I haven't played this one recently.  I had a very favorable opinion of this ship back in the day, how does Fiji play now?

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5 minutes ago, BasedCoomer said:

Fiji is still as solid as ever, i don't think its been hit with any of the bats so to speak.

Well, depends on how long ago one looks. RN CLs were practically better DDs before smoke bloom became a thing.

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I use the Fiji in operation Naria it is an absolute killer with smoke. I have had 10 kills (no steals)  and  given out tons of damage.

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15 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

Just one of those ships that's very popular... that I don't get. 

 

 I finally went and got one after seeing a bunch of posts about it a few weeks ago.  Do yourself a favor... get one.  It's ridiculous.  Problem is people are talking about it too much so I KNOW the nerf hammer is coming.

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8 minutes ago, Col_Nasty said:

 I finally went and got one after seeing a bunch of posts about it a few weeks ago.  Do yourself a favor... get one.  It's ridiculous.  Problem is people are talking about it too much so I KNOW the nerf hammer is coming.

I've had one.  I still have the ship before and the ship after. 

But Fiji was such a torment to grind through that I sold it as soon as I unlocked Edinburgh. 

 

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25 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

I've had one.  I still have the ship before and the ship after. 

But Fiji was such a torment to grind through that I sold it as soon as I unlocked Edinburgh. 

 

When I want to farm cits for requirements or play ops I take it out and have a blast. getting 7 at a time is easy and I'm no unicum.

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Fiji is still one of my favorite and versatile ships I own. Only ever had two gripes about it.

1) Its very soft armored and easily cit'd. Always has been. Seems it always will be.

2) The presence of CVs and radar ships really can take a bite out of your contribution to a match. This issue *almost* disappears if you are top tier.

I should add that it needs a small visibility adjustment considering all the changes and proliferation of radars and such.  As soon as you are not top tier, your medium stealth becomes quite a penalty.

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Ranking of T7 Cruisers from Strongest to Weakest for random battles

1: Belfast

2: Boise

3: Helena

4: Nueve de Julio

5: Yorck

6: Myoko

7: Fiji

8: Schors

9: Atlanta

10: Flint

11: Lazo

12: Indianapolis

13: New Orleans

14: Algerie

15: Surrey

16: Duca degli Abruzzi

17: Zara

18: Gorizia

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2 minutes ago, DolphinPrincess said:

Ranking of T7 Cruisers from Strongest to Weakest for random battles

1: Belfast

2: Boise

3: Helena

4: Nueve de Julio

5: Yorck

6: Myoko

7: Fiji

8: Schors

9: Atlanta

10: Flint

11: Lazo

12: Indianapolis

13: New Orleans

14: Algerie

15: Surrey

16: Duca degli Abruzzi

17: Zara

18: Gorizia

I'm going to bet, especially POST IFHE nerf, that this is old info.

Especially seeing my old Fav Helena up that high without it.

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7 minutes ago, Col_Nasty said:

I'm going to bet, especially POST IFHE nerf, that this is old info.

Especially seeing my old Fav Helena up that high without it.

No, its the new updated one for the current patch.

Helena was not hurt much by the IFHE change compared to, say, Duca for several reasons:

1: IFHE nerf was a percentage nerf, while fire chance buffs are still constant numbers. This is much less effective on ships that have a higher rate of fire and a lower fire chance per shell.

Lets take an extreme example, lets say we have Gearing, whose base fire chance is 6%, if you take IFHE you drop it to 3% but add 2% from DE and 1% from flags you end with the same 6%.

But if you were to take IFHE on Conqueror, you go from 48% to 24% then add 2% and 2% you end with 28%, a huge drop from the original.

Of course you should not take IFHE on Conqueror, but I am just using it as an example of how the math works.

2: Helena have one of the highest DPMs of a T7 cruiser. This means that it is not reliant on fires to deal damage, it will melt the enemy with HE alpha damage alone.

3: Helena is a close range fighter. Long range ships like Schors are greatly affected because they rotate between targets, hoping to set fires onto multiple enemies. Helena has an assassin like play style that pick on a single ship at a time.

 

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20 minutes ago, DolphinPrincess said:

Ranking of T7 Cruisers from Strongest to Weakest for random battles

1: Belfast

2: Boise

3: Helena

4: Nueve de Julio

5: Yorck

6: Myoko

7: Fiji

8: Schors

9: Atlanta

10: Flint

11: Lazo

12: Indianapolis

13: New Orleans

14: Algerie

15: Surrey

16: Duca degli Abruzzi

17: Zara

18: Gorizia

Algie 14th?, gosh what an insult, she is top 3 at the least...

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42 minutes ago, DolphinPrincess said:

Ranking of T7 Cruisers from Strongest to Weakest for random battles

1: Belfast

2: Boise

3: Helena

4: Nueve de Julio

5: Yorck

6: Myoko

7: Fiji

8: Schors

9: Atlanta

10: Flint

11: Lazo

12: Indianapolis

13: New Orleans

14: Algerie

15: Surrey

16: Duca degli Abruzzi

17: Zara

18: Gorizia

Boise and NdJ are the same ship, why wouldn't the both be tied for second?

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4 minutes ago, Aaron_S_Merrill said:

Boise and NdJ are the same ship, why wouldn't the both be tied for second?

Perhaps that list is based on a stats pull, and not personal ratings?   That's all I can think of. 

 

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31 minutes ago, DolphinPrincess said:

No, its the new updated one for the current patch.

Helena was not hurt much by the IFHE change compared to, say, Duca for several reasons:

1: IFHE nerf was a percentage nerf, while fire chance buffs are still constant numbers. This is much less effective on ships that have a higher rate of fire and a lower fire chance per shell.

Lets take an extreme example, lets say we have Gearing, whose base fire chance is 6%, if you take IFHE you drop it to 3% but add 2% from DE and 1% from flags you end with the same 6%.

But if you were to take IFHE on Conqueror, you go from 48% to 24% then add 2% and 2% you end with 28%, a huge drop from the original.

Of course you should not take IFHE on Conqueror, but I am just using it as an example of how the math works.

2: Helena have one of the highest DPMs of a T7 cruiser. This means that it is not reliant on fires to deal damage, it will melt the enemy with HE alpha damage alone.

3: Helena is a close range fighter. Long range ships like Schors are greatly affected because they rotate between targets, hoping to set fires onto multiple enemies. Helena has an assassin like play style that pick on a single ship at a time.

 

Good info , thanks... I will have to break her out again.  She's been one of my favorites since I got here.

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16 minutes ago, Aaron_S_Merrill said:

Boise and NdJ are the same ship, why wouldn't the both be tied for second?

Boise can use Halsey, which for a ship that can easily get confed, this is a massive advantage over NDJ

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20 hours ago, DolphinPrincess said:

Boise can use Halsey, which for a ship that can easily get confed, this is a massive advantage over NDJ

That makes perfect sense, thanks for the clarification.

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