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Feels like an Alsace... except you have three less guns.  Which hurts it.  A lot.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, NoZoupForYou said:

Feels like an Alsace... except you have three less guns.

She has SIX fewer guns.

Alsace has twelve (three quads); Champagne has six (two triples).

 

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So, another battleship that hides at the back of the map sniping..............

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Looks tempting, even though I don't play French BB's anymore.   For me, at least, the low rifle count and low HP could cause issues.  Secondaries seem okay-ish,  but they might temp you into getting into trouble with the high speed.

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I'm really not sure what Champagne brings new to the table that existing T8 battleships don't already have covered....

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2 minutes ago, Ace_04 said:

I'm really not sure what Champagne brings new to the table that existing T8 battleships don't already have covered....

Excellent long range fire and good mobility?

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I'm not sure she's worth it. Georgia does exactly the same job, arguably even better, and she's free. This ship just should be sold before Georgia.

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There are no tier 8 Operations, so there is absolutely no incentive for me to get this ship. It doesn't look like a good Co op ship either. Lets see, 6 guns, long reload, wonky dispersion at times, you would be lucky to get in 12 hits in a battle.

Tier 8 Ranked Sprint will tell a lot about this ship and will probably be it's most informative review. If you are on the fence about this ship, I would keep an eye on what happens there. Keeping in mind of course that advanced players will be using it more than novices.

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Her biggest weakness is that she literally has paper thin armor, which forces the user to stay at long range. Good thing her guns are very accurate, lol. :Smile_teethhappy:

I'm not into sniper-ish playstyle, so she would be a hard pass for me. :Smile_hiding:

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6 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

There are no tier 8 Operations, so there is absolutely no incentive for me to get this ship. It doesn't look like a good Co op ship either. Lets see, 6 guns, long reload, wonky dispersion at times, you would be lucky to get in 12 hits in a battle.

Looks like you can't even use your secondaries to salvage a decent payout, either.   Too close and your hp and armor melt.   

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1 minute ago, Ann_Darrow said:

Looks like you can't even use your secondaries to salvage a decent payout, either.   Too close and your hp and armor melt.   

There are a lot of secondary barrels, but as you note, getting close enough to use them is suicidal. 

All those DP mounts have the potential to stat out as decent AA, which I suppose is useful for a ship that many will be tempted to park someone off by itself.  

Overall, just what this game "needs", another bote to appeal to the max-range "heroes". 

 

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The ship is just awful.  Secondarys that can't pen DDs with out IFHE.  AP is not accurate at all.  No armor and low health pool.   Long reload time for 6 guns.  Wow wargaming, how did this every get past testing.  Well done.

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1 minute ago, KilljoyCutter said:

There are a lot of secondary barrels, but as you note, getting close enough to use them is suicidal. 

All those DP mounts have the potential to stat out as decent AA, which I suppose is useful for a ship that many will be tempted to park someone off by itself.  

Overall, just what this game "needs", another bote to appeal to the max-range "heroes". 

 

In my case, I tend to use my secondaries on my Massachusetts as a backup for getting hits, just in case I get unlucky with the main battery.  She's also tough enough to withstand the hellfire.  I can't imagine doing something like that in the Champagne.

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5 minutes ago, Ann_Darrow said:

In my case, I tend to use my secondaries on my Massachusetts as a backup for getting hits, just in case I get unlucky with the main battery.  She's also tough enough to withstand the hellfire.  I can't imagine doing something like that in the Champagne.

The secondaries can't pen dd hull.  its only 17mm

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Just another gun in the water for those with more dollars than sense.

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16 minutes ago, Rothgar_57 said:

The secondaries can't pen dd hull.  its only 17mm

Oh sheesh, good catch -- yeah, any part of a DD that's 19mm is immune to most of the secondary spam from this ship.  

 

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20 minutes ago, Rothgar_57 said:

The secondaries can't pen dd hull.  its only 17mm

Ewww.  Now, that's just nasty.

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12 minutes ago, theLaalaa said:

Just another gun in the water for those with more dollars than sense.

When I pushed the "BUY" button on the Ignis Purgatio last night, I knew exactly why I was doing it and what I was letting myself in for.

Were I to push the button on the Champagne instead, I'd be thinking "Err... okay; she's new, I guess... that's interesting... maybe she'll be OK?" That's not a recipe for a sale to a discerning player. 

I can see Twitch streamers who make significant amounts of money buying her as a content generator, but then we're going deep into the matter of what constitutes an investment and how they justify it to the taxman at the end of the year. And that's okay for them, I guess, but that's not me.

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2 hours ago, SeaborneSumo said:

Drop reload to 24 seconds, problem solved.  I'd get her.

On board the Champagne, a flunkey Officer put down his binoculars.

"Potential Lampreyfish (sucker) sited sir. It's hovering just out of range & not approaching any closer."

"Ring the Turret Officers and order them to speed up the shell loading even if that blows all the electrical circuits, just as long as we get off a speedier broadside." replied the Captain.

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1 hour ago, Sovereigndawg said:

There are no tier 8 Operations, so there is absolutely no incentive for me to get this ship. It doesn't look like a good Co op ship either. Lets see, 6 guns, long reload, wonky dispersion at times, you would be lucky to get in 12 hits in a battle.

Tier 8 Ranked Sprint will tell a lot about this ship and will probably be it's most informative review. If you are on the fence about this ship, I would keep an eye on what happens there. Keeping in mind of course that advanced players will be using it more than novices.

Do people buy cash ships solely to play against bots and scripted bots? Wondering how much of the sales go down this route. 

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30 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

Oh sheesh, good catch -- yeah, any part of a DD that's 19mm is immune to most of the secondary spam from this ship.  

 

Yeah, only the larger caliber secondaries will do anything of note, and there are only nine of them.

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3 minutes ago, Pugilistic said:

Do people buy cash ships solely to play against bots and scripted bots? Wondering how much of the sales go down this route. 

I had a moment of weakness last fall, and bought Scharnhorst B in part so that I'd have a second Scharnhorst for Narai. 

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2 minutes ago, Pugilistic said:

Do people buy cash ships solely to play against bots and scripted bots? Wondering how much of the sales go down this route.

I do, so at least one.

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