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Episode 021: Wargaming Deleted His Clan. A Convo with UMR-R's Lovely Saragota

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Wargaming just announced the very public dismantling of long-time SEA Clan Battle and KOTS champions UMR-R, along with severe penalties stripping steel and steel ships from accounts of everyone in the clan. 

UMR-R's now-former leader joined us to discuss the punishment, whether or not it was justified, and what the future is for the clan's former members. 

https://anchor.fm/the-new-guys/episodes/Episode-021-Wargaming-Deleted-His-Clan--A-Convo-with-UMR-Rs-Lovely-Saragota-eek4cr

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I'll wait for someone to summarize.  If a Clan has been shut down it must have taken a lot.  Just not interested in the soap opera details.

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1 minute ago, Col_Nasty said:

I'll wait for someone to summarize.  If a Clan has been shut down it must have taken a lot.  Just not interested in the soap opera details.

summary

potatoA want steel, UMR-R memberB want money

potatoA gives memberB real life money, memberB lets potatoA into UMR-R clan, and memberB play clan war with potatoA account.

after 30 victories in hurricane, potatoA's account get kick out of UMR-R clan with all the 11k steel earned from that 30 hurricane victories.

this happened way too often, WG noticed, and disbanded UMR-R and delete all steel anyone earned from UMR-R CW

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They wouldn't originate from a country with a red flag and maybe yellow stars? :Smile_child:

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41 minutes ago, Synpax said:

Wargaming just announced the very public dismantling

Linky?

9 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

summary

potatoA want steel, UMR-R memberB want money

potatoA gives memberB real life money, memberB lets potatoA into UMR-R clan, and memberB play clan war with potatoA account.

after 30 victories in hurricane, potatoA's account get kick out of UMR-R clan with all the 11k steel earned from that 30 hurricane victories.

this happened way too often, WG noticed, and disbanded UMR-R and delete all steel anyone earned from UMR-R CW

Owch. They were lucky not to get their accounts deleted along with their steel and the ships they bought with it. Or were they?

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6 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Linky?

Owch. They were lucky not to get their accounts deleted along with their steel and the ships they bought with it. Or were they?

Link is in the podcast description. Yes, WG made clear they could go even further and delete accounts. 

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11 minutes ago, Otago_F111 said:

They wouldn't originate from a country with a red flag and maybe yellow stars? :Smile_child:

China is its own server run by a Chinese company.

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3 minutes ago, Synpax said:

Link is in the podcast description.

"Page not found" :Smile_sad:

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LETS GET RIGHT INTO THE NEWS!

KeemStar of ships guys.

good or bad thing you can decide, i know my opinion.

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16 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

"Page not found" :Smile_sad:

Just FYI - the entire Asia forums are down right now for some reason. I presume the link will work eventually. 

here's the link to the same text on Reddit. 
 

 

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I wonder if they just assumed everyone in the clan was guilty, or only hit the accounts that actually showed evidence of "transfer".  

 

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58 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

summary

potatoA want steel, UMR-R memberB want money

potatoA gives memberB real life money, memberB lets potatoA into UMR-R clan, and memberB play clan war with potatoA account.

after 30 victories in hurricane, potatoA's account get kick out of UMR-R clan with all the 11k steel earned from that 30 hurricane victories.

this happened way too often, WG noticed, and disbanded UMR-R and delete all steel anyone earned from UMR-R CW

Thank you so much!  That is 100% Justified.  Abusing the system and indirectly costing WG money.

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2 hours ago, Otago_F111 said:

They wouldn't originate from a country with a red flag and maybe yellow stars? :Smile_child:

Is there some kind of 'virus' setting in here? lol

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Large clans, especially if they are "elite" clans, oftentimes begin to think that they are immune from the consequences of their actions.

In an RTS franchise I played for about ten years a large clan of high-ranking players got to stealing accounts from new players by telling them that they would level up their rank for them if they would give them their passwords. This clan would then use these stolen accounts as shills, planting them on the opposite side of team games. The clan members playing the shill accounts would then throw games to ensure that the main clan accounts would always win.

Finally, the moderators had enough of it and mass banned one of the largest clans in the game, along with every account that any of them had ever played. What was strange though is that most of the clan members returned on new accounts and were allowed to play. This was a pay to play game, however. I guess that spending more money was "punishment" enough in the minds of the game's moderators. 

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They figured out a way to sell steel. The World of Warcraft gold farmers made their way into WoWs.

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4 hours ago, Col_Nasty said:

I'll wait for someone to summarize.  If a Clan has been shut down it must have taken a lot.  Just not interested in the soap opera details.

Amoral mindset. You can do it if you don't get caught.

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5 hours ago, jason199506 said:

summary

potatoA want steel, UMR-R memberB want money

potatoA gives memberB real life money, memberB lets potatoA into UMR-R clan, and memberB play clan war with potatoA account.

after 30 victories in hurricane, potatoA's account get kick out of UMR-R clan with all the 11k steel earned from that 30 hurricane victories.

this happened way too often, WG noticed, and disbanded UMR-R and delete all steel anyone earned from UMR-R CW

Or maybe sell ships outright instead of locking them behind some currency not all ppl can access?

 

 

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3 hours ago, Ban_CV_Complainers said:

They figured out a way to sell steel. The World of Warcraft gold farmers made their way into WoWs.

lols, I was thinking the same thing. I remember paying 25,000 gold for a run to get a Moose Mount......

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7 hours ago, Synpax said:

Just FYI - the entire Asia forums are down right now for some reason.

Okay, NP. Thanks for the reddit link in the meantime.

2 hours ago, Farm_Fresh_Eggs said:

some currency not all ppl can access?

Anyone in this game can (technically) earn steel, even the free to play crowd.

5 hours ago, Ban_CV_Complainers said:

They figured out a way to sell steel.

Yes and no. To the end payer it might seem that way, but the steel still has to be won by somebody's efforts in-game.

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11 hours ago, BrushWolf said:

China is its own server run by a Chinese company.

Tell that to the bazillion CCTV clans and others of the like, who also use the warpack equivalent to boot here.  lol.

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I understand why WG would be upset with this, but I don’t think anyone else needs to be. They figured out a way to monetize being a good player even if it wasn’t according to WGs rules and then got caught. They didn’t install hacks that made the game unfair, or do something that otherwise made they player experience a worse one like bottling. At that point I need to know why I should care. 

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16 hours ago, jason199506 said:

summary

potatoA want steel, UMR-R memberB want money

potatoA gives memberB real life money, memberB lets potatoA into UMR-R clan, and memberB play clan war with potatoA account.

after 30 victories in hurricane, potatoA's account get kick out of UMR-R clan with all the 11k steel earned from that 30 hurricane victories.

this happened way too often, WG noticed, and disbanded UMR-R and delete all steel anyone earned from UMR-R CW

after reading this, i cant say i feel much sympathy towards that clan and the members that took part in that 

to quote the Joker "You get what you [edited]deserve"

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16 hours ago, BrushWolf said:

China is its own server run by a Chinese company.

I understand their server has not been updated for quite sometime, I think they still run the old CV setup. Lots of Chinese players on the Asian server, and have seen quite a few here as well.

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Interesting interview. The UMR-R guy basically said they deserved the punishment they got. Very honest and not at all what I was expecting.

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