1 [M0F0S] Ripper124 Members 4 posts 16,964 battles Report post #1 Posted May 25, 2020 With the advent of the subs as well as the fact that the UK HE is much more effective then the AP. I believe that it would be much better to have the AP used exclusively on the light cruisers replaced with the HE or at least give us the choice. If the AP has to make a perfect hit to damage the Subs then the UK light cruisers will only have one effective weapon the Depth Charge to use against the subs. This will unbalance the the game. Also the fact that the UK HE has a better penetration than the AP, in my opinion, and is over all more effective. What armourer would elect to to use AP over HP on the ships? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,656 [-K-] Ace_04 Members 8,491 posts 14,883 battles Report post #2 Posted May 25, 2020 Do we really need an entire line of mini-Woosters? HE spam is already bad enough in this game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
995 [WOLFC] Nevermore135 Members 1,995 posts 10,430 battles Report post #3 Posted May 25, 2020 WG removed HE from the UK CLs during testing because the combination of high ROF 152mm HE and smoke was too powerful, especially at mid tiers where radar is rare. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
960 [HC] SgtBeltfed [HC] Beta Testers 3,294 posts 12,976 battles Report post #4 Posted May 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said: WG removed HE from the UK CLs during testing because the combination of high ROF 152mm HE and smoke was too powerful, especially at mid tiers where radar is rare. That, and WG wasn't happy with the playstyle. Move up, sit in smoke, spam HE. It was boring to play, and boring to play against. The choices for WG were, get rid of the smoke, or get rid of the HE. If you pulled the smoke off, they'd be like any other light cruiser. Pull the HE off, and give them special AP rounds (very similar to SAP) and they ended up different. WG wanted different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
644 [KIA-T] OseanTanker Beta Testers 1,857 posts 6,289 battles Report post #5 Posted May 25, 2020 Please no, HE spam is already pushing me to hardly playing the game. Even more would just make me quit outright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,955 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,727 posts Report post #6 Posted May 25, 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,508 [RKLES] Admiral_Thrawn_1 Members 12,557 posts 14,317 battles Report post #7 Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ace_04 said: Do we really need an entire line of mini-Woosters? HE spam is already bad enough in this game. More like Smolensk since they have smoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
583 [GRAVE] tfcas119 Members 1,361 posts 19,512 battles Report post #8 Posted May 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Ripper124 said: ith the advent of the subs as well as the fact that the UK HE is much more effective then the AP. not really, Daring AP has DM bounce angles and can arm on DDs, Goliath AP overmatches 16mm plating (British light cruisers, Smolensk, and Colbert) and RN BB AP is decent (Warspite, Vanguard, and Thunderer in particular have really good AP) 9 hours ago, Ripper124 said: I believe that it would be much better to have the AP used exclusively on the light cruisers replaced with the HE or at least give us the choice. you saw how Kutuzov, Flint, and Smolensk turned out, did you? 9 hours ago, Ripper124 said: Also the fact that the UK HE has a better penetration than the AP HE has a finite pen over any range, and its generally far less the the lowest AP pen value you can get Ex: 152mm HE has either 25 or 30mm (tier dependent) of pen no matter the range at 15km the average AP pen for 152mm ships is 100mm 10km about 160mm and at 5km its between 200-230mm Yeah, HE has more pen than AP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
828 [WOLFB] Lonewolfpj Members 3,158 posts 7,381 battles Report post #9 Posted May 26, 2020 I dont want to loose the national flavor. That is the key to WG's success. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,844 [WOLFG] DrHolmes52 Members 10,656 posts 9,872 battles Report post #10 Posted May 26, 2020 I figure they could do this. If the RN CLs gave up the heal below T8, or the smoke/radar. Maybe both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [M0F0S] Ripper124 Members 4 posts 16,964 battles Report post #11 Posted May 31, 2020 If this is the case then why was the Smolensk given all that power they should not have allowed a ship with radar smoke & HE to exist in the game.NERF the Smolensk is the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,301 [SPTR] Rolkatsuki Members 27,186 posts 16,913 battles Report post #12 Posted June 1, 2020 I think a line of smolensks is absolutely terrifying not just to subs, just give the British CLs depth charges and call it at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites