866 Anij Members 530 posts 28,065 battles Report post #1 Posted May 23, 2020 Not only did WG introduce cold war ships they couldn't even do it right. The Ostergotland Class should be tier 10 as they were built after the Halland class. Östergötland-class destroyer- 1958 and served till 1982 Equipped with SeaCat SAM and Wire Guided Torpedoes Halland-class destroyer-1955 and served till 1982 Equipped with SSM Saab Robot and Wire Guided Torpedoes Smaland Class Destroyer 1952-1974 Equipped with SSM Saab Robot and Wire Guided Torpedoes Skane Destroyer never existed as other than as a prototype for the Oland Class Vasteras never existed as a DD. It was a Swedish missile patrol boat in 1974. In other words WG got lazy and made ships up. It makes no sense!! Sweden built enough DDs in WW 2 to fully equip the tree to Tier 8. The 3 cold war DDs need to be seriously nerfed. They have more AA than a tier 10 BB and they don't take damage easily and as such they are extremely difficult to kill 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,173 [NONE] 0ldRichard Members 4,188 posts Report post #2 Posted May 23, 2020 Why? Money. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,076 [-TAF-] Eyeless_Camper Alpha Tester 1,194 posts 3,024 battles Report post #3 Posted May 23, 2020 First, there is no Småland class destroyer. HMS Småland is the sister ship of Halland. And second, Östergötland were smaller and less capable ships built after Halland to a cheaper budget, younger age does not mean better. Thirdly, no point listing those missiles and wire guided torps as none of them have that in the game. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,061 [WOLFG] DrHolmes52 Members 15,380 posts 16,265 battles Report post #4 Posted May 23, 2020 Swedish bias. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 Rizim Beta Testers 55 posts 6,889 battles Report post #5 Posted May 23, 2020 LEARN YOUR SWEEDS! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15,259 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 35,026 posts 29,087 battles Report post #6 Posted May 23, 2020 Not sure why you're complaining about anti-ship missiles and wire guided torpedoes from these DDs when they don't have those weapons in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,534 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 9,592 posts 15,383 battles Report post #7 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anij said: It makes no sense!! Sweden built enough DDs in WW 2 to fully equip the tree to Tier 8. Sweden also took no part whatsoever in either of the World Wars, the fact that the EU DD line is mostly Sweden DDs is an insult to the other EU navies that actually did something than just watch everyone else suffer through the war, ships from a nation that didnt even do anything in either World War is honestly worse imo than a line full of paper ships, the Russian navy can at least say they helped a BIT with convoys, Sweden didnt do jack Edited May 23, 2020 by tcbaker777 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
575 Neko_Ship_Akashi Banned 627 posts Report post #8 Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Anij said: Not only did WG introduce cold war ships they couldn't even do it right. The Ostergotland Class should be tier 10 as they were built after the Halland class. Östergötland-class destroyer- 1958 and served till 1982 Equipped with SeaCat SAM and Wire Guided Torpedoes Halland-class destroyer-1955 and served till 1982 Equipped with SSM Saab Robot and Wire Guided Torpedoes Smaland Class Destroyer 1952-1974 Equipped with SSM Saab Robot and Wire Guided Torpedoes Skane Destroyer never existed as other than as a prototype for the Oland Class Vasteras never existed as a DD. It was a Swedish missile patrol boat in 1974. In other words WG got lazy and made ships up. It makes no sense!! Sweden built enough DDs in WW 2 to fully equip the tree to Tier 8. The 3 cold war DDs need to be seriously nerfed. They have more AA than a tier 10 BB and they don't take damage easily and as such they are extremely difficult to kill Can I have whatever your smoking? It must be some good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
389 [WOLFC] Nolo_00 Members 566 posts Report post #9 Posted May 23, 2020 *Looks around, and tries to stuff USS Iowa under the couch.....* 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
756 [VRR] Versili [VRR] Members 1,782 posts Report post #10 Posted May 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: Not sure why you're complaining about anti-ship missiles and wire guided torpedoes from these DDs when they don't have those weapons in the game. Wait for subs !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,519 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #11 Posted May 23, 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
714 [ANZ4C] _SterlingArcher_ Members 645 posts 9,820 battles Report post #12 Posted May 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, tcbaker777 said: Sweden also took no part whatsoever in either of the World Wars, the fact that the EU DD line is mostly Sweden DDs is an insult to the other EU navies that actually did something than just watch everyone else suffer through the war, ships from a nation that didnt even do anything in either World War is honestly worse imo than a line full of paper ships, the Russian navy can at least say they helped a BIT with convoys, Sweden didnt do jack Dude, chill. The fact that the EU DD line is mostly Swedes, kinda leads to believe that the more "minor" nations, Spain, Netherlands, are going to be added in as seperate lines under the panEU nation. Patience is a virtue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,578 ReddNekk Members 4,479 posts 19,839 battles Report post #13 Posted May 23, 2020 I personally fell that WG would do better to buff up the ships that have been reduced to "meh" status by power creep before creating new botes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
388 [-GOD-] bosco1111 [-GOD-] Members 1,385 posts Report post #14 Posted May 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, tcbaker777 said: the Russian navy can at least say they helped a BIT with convoys If you consider torping refugee convoys helping. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [WOLFH] CO_Valle Members 1,103 posts 5,905 battles Report post #15 Posted May 23, 2020 The name of the game is “World of Warships”, nowhere there it implies that only nations that fought in World Wars are to be included, nor that only ships that participated in such wars are to be included. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,010 [PSP] Snargfargle [PSP] Members 18,355 posts Report post #16 Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Anij said: Östergötland-class destroyer- 1958 and served till 1982 Halland-class destroyer-1955 and served till 1982 WG is just trying to cater to a younger generation; that is, those of us born during the Eisenhower Administration. Either that or they are trying to appease the millions of Swedish gamers who have been crying out for a ship line of their own. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,138 [UNHLY] tm63au Members 3,941 posts 28,960 battles Report post #17 Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Anij said: Not only did WG introduce cold war ships they couldn't even do it right. The Ostergotland Class should be tier 10 as they were built after the Halland class. Östergötland-class destroyer- 1958 and served till 1982 Equipped with SeaCat SAM and Wire Guided Torpedoes Halland-class destroyer-1955 and served till 1982 Equipped with SSM Saab Robot and Wire Guided Torpedoes Smaland Class Destroyer 1952-1974 Equipped with SSM Saab Robot and Wire Guided Torpedoes Skane Destroyer never existed as other than as a prototype for the Oland Class Vasteras never existed as a DD. It was a Swedish missile patrol boat in 1974. In other words WG got lazy and made ships up. It makes no sense!! Sweden built enough DDs in WW 2 to fully equip the tree to Tier 8. The 3 cold war DDs need to be seriously nerfed. They have more AA than a tier 10 BB and they don't take damage easily and as such they are extremely difficult to kill My God Man have you just not realised IKEA is one of silent partners in WG, do you watch any of those videos they make in house that show staff at the desks working, where do you think there office furniture comes from SAMSON, LTD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,442 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 10,316 posts 27,552 battles Report post #18 Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Anij said: Title: Cold War Ships...Why? Answer: Because Yammy would be awful lonely as the only T10 ship. Text: A bunch of inaccurate data about Swedish ships while suggesting more/different ones should have been added. Response: What was the point of the title? Note: Newer does not = better. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,014 [BEA5T] Asym_KS Members 6,196 posts 30,784 battles Report post #19 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Snargfargle said: WG is just trying to cater to a younger generation; that is, those of us born during the Eisenhower Administration. Either that or they are trying to appease the millions of Swedish gamers who have been crying out for a ship line of their own. Be nice, we don't want the kids in this game to actually look up that name ! We'd never hear the end of "OH God, our grandparents are playing this game......." Trust me, I just kicked my Grandson back into Blitz...! It's the Swedish mafia players that somehow forced the game into creating something for them. I can't wait for a Swedish battlesphip. Heck, there are German Aircraft carriers !!! I want the Ise for the IJN at tier 9....... Wiki If you ever get the chance, visit his Library in Abilene..... They have a neat tank park nearby and have a M48A5 I actually served on. I kept the Vehicle Id's of all of the tanks I was assigned to decades ago. Edited May 23, 2020 by Asym_KS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15,259 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 35,026 posts 29,087 battles Report post #20 Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Versili said: Wait for subs !!! The Homing Torpedoes are really not what you guys are having nightmares about. Those things were criss-crossing the map hitting nothing on PTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,520 Snoopys_Odyssey Members 1,511 posts 17,278 battles Report post #21 Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Snargfargle said: WG is just trying to cater to a younger generation; that is, those of us born during the Eisenhower Administration. Either that or they are trying to appease the millions of Swedish gamers who have been crying out for a ship line of their own. Millions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15,259 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 35,026 posts 29,087 battles Report post #22 Posted May 23, 2020 1 minute ago, db4100 said: Millions? (Not Swedish, but I couldn't help but use this gif for the right occasion) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,700 [SIM] SkaerKrow Members 6,266 posts 10,284 battles Report post #23 Posted May 24, 2020 Oh look, someone still thinks that this is a simulator and not an arcade shooter game. It doesn’t matter if the ship designs come from World War 2, the Cold War, or the Sixth Regula-Voidform Conflict. The ships have been compressed and balanced into the game’s current engine. Also, tiniest violin for ANYONE complaining that we have DDs that can fight off CV attacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
137 Tyberius_D ∞ Members 323 posts 2,956 battles Report post #24 Posted May 24, 2020 1) I am indeed not a fan of anything after the 40s in the game. Conforming 1950s+ tech to early 40s tech is not going to go well. 2) CV/DD arms race is dumb as hell, and causes craplike this to exist. 3) WG screwed up, and it keeps cascading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,522 [WOLFC] DocWalker Members 3,200 posts Report post #25 Posted May 24, 2020 Troll in Forum? Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites