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Player base options on nerfing Kremlin and Stalingrad

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Wait please to do not the nerf the Kremlin I finally just got her . Please at least wait 3 months thank you .

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The ridiculous armor and accuracy at range need to go.

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Quit calling for nerfs.

Wargames will take nerfs too far and make them global.

 

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The Stalingrad is fine.  

 

The Kreml more or less needs a mini rework.  It's been nerfed repeatedly since being released, but none of the nerfs have actually addressed the real problem with the ship, and at this point there really isn't any room to nerf its survivability meaningfully without overdoing it.  Right now the Kreml is a ship that's frustrating to play as, and it's frustrating to fight against.  It needs 50mm plating and a drastically more vulnerable citadel....but in return it needs more consistent gun performance.  Personally I'd like to see something closer to its original test version gun performance restored, maybe with a few tweaks.  

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5 minutes ago, Gemlin said:

Quit calling for nerfs.

Wargames will take nerfs too far and make them global.

 

I didn't call for nerfs I was asking people's opinions of what they would want dummy 

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stalin is fine.

id even like to see a complete sidegrade legendary mod for stalin

 

kremlin............as yashma said, it need its tankiness nerfed down to normal TX BB level, and long range gun accuracy buffed to normal TX BB level

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Nothing, neither ship requires a nerf. There might be room for a rebalance, but that's a package of negative and positive changes to alter a ship's overall performance, not just a "make it weaker cuz muh feelz" chop job.

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26 minutes ago, lordholland4293 said:

I didn't call for nerfs I was asking people's opinions of what they would want dummy 

Nerf is in the title of the thread & you weren't asking for what people would want you were asking for people's opinions on what nerfs they would choose (at least w/the combo of the title & the use of the word "balance" it seemed pretty obvious you weren't asking for people's opinions of what they felt should be buffed...only what should be nerfed...whether they felt a buff was in order or not.).

Obviously you seem to be trolling because despite all the replies you got the only 1 you felt the need to respond to was 1 that stated an obvious fact (you are asking for nerfs) that you denied & then called the person a dummy...way to keep the thread alive :-?

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1 hour ago, yashma said:

The Kreml more or less needs a mini rework.  It's been nerfed repeatedly since being released, but none of the nerfs have actually addressed the real problem with the ship, and at this point there really isn't any room to nerf its survivability meaningfully without overdoing it.  Right now the Kreml is a ship that's frustrating to play as, and it's frustrating to fight against.  It needs 50mm plating and a drastically more vulnerable citadel....but in return it needs more consistent gun performance.  Personally I'd like to see something closer to its original test version gun performance restored, maybe with a few tweaks.  

I can get behind this. I think the citadel is already fairly exploitable, the Krem is no close range brawler. However, perhaps this weakness could be increased. If I am right, it makes little difference. If you are right, then it is fair. 

Just so, if it is going to be a mid range ship, then it needs its guns back. It has become tedious, to miss everything that is bow on due to high lateral dispersion, or to do 1500 damage per volley at everything beyond 15km.

The other way the Krem could be made weaker is by reducing the torpedo belt resistance. I can't believe I'm saying this, because it goes against my interests, but if the Krem is going to be weak at short range, then it should not be so strong against torps.

Give the Germans the brawling meta. Bake in their secondary power, allow their captains to go full tank/fireproof build.

Give the Rooskies the mid range meta, and reduce their brawling armour, and give the guns back.

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I wouldn’t nerf Stalingrad and in the case of the Kremlin I would not allow Kuznetsov to command her in battle, that’s just a little too much of a good thing in my mind.

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2 hours ago, yashma said:

The Stalingrad is fine.  

 

The Kreml more or less needs a mini rework.  It's been nerfed repeatedly since being released, but none of the nerfs have actually addressed the real problem with the ship, and at this point there really isn't any room to nerf its survivability meaningfully without overdoing it.  Right now the Kreml is a ship that's frustrating to play as, and it's frustrating to fight against.  It needs 50mm plating and a drastically more vulnerable citadel....but in return it needs more consistent gun performance.  Personally I'd like to see something closer to its original test version gun performance restored, maybe with a few tweaks.  

wouldn't that just make it a bigger Stalin with 30mm overmatch?

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2 hours ago, yashma said:

The Stalingrad is fine.  

 

The Kreml more or less needs a mini rework.  It's been nerfed repeatedly since being released, but none of the nerfs have actually addressed the real problem with the ship, and at this point there really isn't any room to nerf its survivability meaningfully without overdoing it.  Right now the Kreml is a ship that's frustrating to play as, and it's frustrating to fight against.  It needs 50mm plating and a drastically more vulnerable citadel....but in return it needs more consistent gun performance.  Personally I'd like to see something closer to its original test version gun performance restored, maybe with a few tweaks.  

How a out removing at least 1 dam com.

The whole idea behind have a given amount is you had to choide but they game the Russian bb so many that there is no choice.

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3 hours ago, lordholland4293 said:

I didn't call for nerfs I was asking people's opinions of what they would want dummy 

Lol "I'm not asking for nerfs, I'm asking how everyone else would do it" 😂😂😂😂😂

How is that different?

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Reduce her fire resistance to a lower tier level so she becomes a ronson and can burn through those damage cons quickly.... Pun intended. 

 

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6 hours ago, lordholland4293 said:

What would you chose to do in order to balance  these ships if you chose too.

Nothing wrong with them that needs balancing. USE HE and they die just fine.

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6 hours ago, lordholland4293 said:

I didn't call for nerfs I was asking people's opinions of what they would want dummy 

Yea that's basically calling for nerfs.

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Just wait until you see what the new Russian Tier X CA and CL can do.

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10 hours ago, lordholland4293 said:

I didn't call for nerfs I was asking people's opinions of what they would want dummy 

Then, buffs for both.

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The Stalingrad doesn't need a nerf so not sure how I'd nerf it. Lol

People still complain about that ship?

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