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Did they move forward with making T6 and 7 CLs unable to pen T8+ BB even if using IFHE?

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3 minutes ago, crzyhawk said:

Did they move forward with making T6 and 7 CLs unable to pen T8+ BB even if using IFHE?

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Haven't tested it, but there is always the superstructure 

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Yes, for all t8+ BB bow/stern (you can still pen superstructure even without IFHE). Well, except for the upcoming t8 French BB Champagne, that has a 25mm bow/stern that mid tier 152-155 IFHE will pen.

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They way they were changing it, T6 and 7 CLs wouldn't have been able to pen superstructure with IFHE either.

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Just now, MidnightPhoenix07 said:

Yes. Well, except for the upcoming t8 French BB Champagne, that has a 25mm bow/stern that mid tier 152-155 IFHE will pen.

OK thanks.  No need to consider a return then.

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12 minutes ago, crzyhawk said:

Did they move forward with making T6 and 7 CLs unable to pen T8+ BB even if using IFHE?

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Simple, 150MM to 180MM guns You have the must options...

  • Either use IFHE and AP
  • OR dont use IFHE you're going to be dependent on fire and AP.

Cruiser 127MM to 149MM against +2MM.

  • Fire is better...
    • HE pens are non-existent
    • IFHE limits your DMG production...

Anything below 120MM

  • IFHE is a must...

Hope this was informative...

 

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18 minutes ago, crzyhawk said:

Did they move forward with making T6 and 7 CLs unable to pen T8+ BB even if using IFHE?

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7 minutes ago, crzyhawk said:

OK thanks.  No need to consider a return then.

 

Depends on the CL.

127mm HE pens 21mm of armor, 26mm with IFHE.

130mm HE pens 22mm of armor, 27mm with IFHE.

German DD 150mm pens 25mm of armor, 31mm with IFHE.

Certain German 150mm HE pens 37mm of armor, 46mm with IFHE

152mm HE pens 25mm of armor, 31mm with IFHE.

155mm HE pens 26mm of armor, 32mm with IFHE.

180mm HE pens 30mm of armor, 37mm with IFHE

 

T6 and T7 BBs now all have 26mm+ armor on the bow, stern and decks.

T8+ BBs now all have 32mm+ armor on the bow, stern and decks.

 

So on T6 & T7 CL do you want to pen T6 & T7 BB extremities and halve your fire rate vs T8+ BBs where you can only pen the superstructure...

OR

...do you skip IFHE so you can only pen BB superstructures of T6+ BBs, but your fire chance is unchanged.

 

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16 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

So on T6 & T7 CL do you want to pen T6 & T7 BB extremities and halve your fire rate vs T8+ BBs where you can only pen the superstructure...

 

So they didn't make T8+ BB superstructure also 32mm?

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Just now, crzyhawk said:

So they didn't make T8+ BB superstructure also 32mm?

Nope, that is next year. ;)

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Is that actually in their plan?

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2 hours ago, crzyhawk said:

Is that actually in their plan?

No. They're not being serious.

IFHE changes are absolutely murderous to T7 CL which face an awful choice between not taking it and not being able to pen any battleship hulls, or the increasingly abundant 27mm hulls of German and US heavy cruisers and decks of cruisers in general, or taking it, being able to pen the 26mm of T6-T7 BB and 27mm of T8+ cruisers, but halving the fire chance against T8+ battleship hulls while remaining unable to pen them.

WG created a huge edge and tier effect for no real reason, while the main IFHE beneficiaries - ships like Worcester and Harugumo remain unaffected.

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2 hours ago, mofton said:

No. They're not being serious.

IFHE changes are absolutely murderous to T7 CL which face an awful choice between not taking it and not being able to pen any battleship hulls, or the increasingly abundant 27mm hulls of German and US heavy cruisers and decks of cruisers in general, or taking it, being able to pen the 26mm of T6-T7 BB and 27mm of T8+ cruisers, but halving the fire chance against T8+ battleship hulls while remaining unable to pen them.

WG created a huge edge and tier effect for no real reason, while the main IFHE beneficiaries - ships like Worcester and Harugumo remain unaffected.

Which is the reason that I quit in the first place.  Much like that Chinese DD that they nerfed (Yue Yang maybe?) they have no idea what causes issues, let alone how to address those issues.  Oh well, I'm enjoying planes.  For all of it's issues, it's generally more fun than this game by a long shot.  A side benefit of no development due to low population is...they can't screw things up with development.

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