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IFHE still a viable captain skill for Kitakaze?

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This was my old captain build. I'm wondering if the IFHE skill points would be best used elsewhere since the rework, maybe demolition expert and advanced fire training instead? I have 19 point captain but haven't redistributed his skills since the free reset. So what's everyone running these days?

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IFHE is still very useful on the IJN gunboats since it gets you over the 32mm threshold and there isn’t a significant drop in fire chance like some other ships. It’s often paired with DE now, since that combination brings you to within a percent of your old fire chance pre change, but it’s not necessary. 

 

 

 

Of course, that’s assuming you’re on my team. If you’re on the enemy team, then no, ifhe is a terrible choice and no one should be running it anymore. :Smile_trollface:

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I think without IFHE it pens 30mm with IFHE it pens 37mm, which obvious crosses the 32mm threshold for many ships and means you aren't restricted to the superstructure.

As the fire chance is 5% it isn't such a massive drop to 2.5% with IFHE (and the 5% chance isn't exactly massive either - although it is a machine gun).

 

I kept my Capt with IFHE, as I believe it's the better build. :Smile_honoring:

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I do not suggest IFHE on the IJN 100mm guns.  First its expensive on ships that need every point they can spare, second they already have enough pen to abuse CAs, with DE they become very good fire starters.  Combine that with really good torps no BBs are going to want to be in the same zip code as me.  So I dropped IFHE on the few of these ships that I was running IFHE and defaulted back to DE.

Harugumo:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD210&modules=11111&upgrades=133221&commander=PCW001&skills=273858626&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Kitakaze:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD219&modules=12221&upgrades=133221&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906754&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Akizuki:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD108&modules=12221&upgrades=133220&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906818&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Harekaze:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD708&modules=12111&upgrades=134220&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906818&ar=100&consumables=111&pos=0

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17 hours ago, Destroyer_KuroshioKai said:

I do not suggest IFHE on the IJN 100mm guns.  First its expensive on ships that need every point they can spare, second they already have enough pen to abuse CAs, with DE they become very good fire starters.  Combine that with really good torps no BBs are going to want to be in the same zip code as me.  So I dropped IFHE on the few of these ships that I was running IFHE and defaulted back to DE.

Harugumo:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD210&modules=11111&upgrades=133221&commander=PCW001&skills=273858626&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Kitakaze:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD219&modules=12221&upgrades=133221&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906754&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Akizuki:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD108&modules=12221&upgrades=133220&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906818&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Harekaze:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD708&modules=12111&upgrades=134220&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906818&ar=100&consumables=111&pos=0

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Kuro knows what he is talking about!!  The whole idea is to set fire after the damage control get used, that is more than pen damage.

 

Pete

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On 7/17/2020 at 11:22 AM, sasquatch_research said:

Hey

Kuro knows what he is talking about!!  The whole idea is to set fire after the damage control get used, that is more than pen damage.

 

Pete

I will be changing my builds to his as well. 

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On 7/16/2020 at 3:16 PM, Destroyer_KuroshioKai said:

I do not suggest IFHE on the IJN 100mm guns.  First its expensive on ships that need every point they can spare, second they already have enough pen to abuse CAs, with DE they become very good fire starters.  Combine that with really good torps no BBs are going to want to be in the same zip code as me.  So I dropped IFHE on the few of these ships that I was running IFHE and defaulted back to DE.

Harugumo:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD210&modules=11111&upgrades=133221&commander=PCW001&skills=273858626&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Kitakaze:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD219&modules=12221&upgrades=133221&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906754&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Akizuki:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD108&modules=12221&upgrades=133220&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906818&ar=100&flags=3293&consumables=1111&pos=0

Harekaze:  https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PJSD708&modules=12111&upgrades=134220&commander=PCW001&skills=2152906818&ar=100&consumables=111&pos=0

I have Yamamoto and I have him as the primary captain for my Kamikaze R.  I should be able to get the Akizuki soon and I'm thinking of resetting his skills tailored for the Akizuki since I use the Kamikaze R as a gunboat anyway.  My question however, is the Akizuki worth having a dedicated Yamamoto captain for or is the Kitakaze and Harugumo just as good?  I technically have my 16pt Shiratsuyu captain as a spare plain captain I can use somewhere on this line as well.

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I would strongly recommend keeping IFHE on the Haragumo.  Instead, drop CE for AFT.

At T10, there's a LOT of 32mm armor on stuff. Several battleships are practically made of 32mm, and there's a variety of supercruisers and such that have 32mm on parts, rather than the normal 30mm or 27mm.

The volume of fire the Haragumo puts out, particularly with AFT at range, really, really helps to have that extra pen.

I'd agree that the Kit and Aki don't need it anymore.  But the Haragumo suffers from really terribly slow reloading torpedoes, and god-awful maneuverability. It works best as a long-range machinegun, and the extra pen there really does almost triple your damage output against BBs and super cruisers.

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