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Too many Venezias in clan battles. It is too hard to counter them. Also the SAP to CAs are too op for it.

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10 minutes ago, Shokaku_kawaii said:

Too many Venezias in clan battles. It is too hard to counter them. Also the SAP to CAs are too op for it.

My Moskva citadels them just fine.

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Hey

I was in my Henri 4 and it worked decently well but the Venezia was wrecking me with SAP rounds, it was chunking me more than a Des Moines or even a Stalingrad when I was well angled, at the same ranges.  Finally got killed when I had my guns on target with AP broadside (got 1 citadel and a couple of pens) and for some reason my game lagged or something he killed me, then I returned to normal with full control.  Go figure, thanks RNG?  Those guns are ridiculous even when well angled, so much for spaced French armor.

 

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46 minutes ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

My Moskva citadels them just fine.

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Anything can citadel them with a broadside.  But he can you for a lot more damage for most angles.  Your AP will just ricochet, and your HE is rather Meh most of the time.

 

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4 hours ago, Shokaku_kawaii said:

Too many Venezias in clan battles. It is too hard to counter them. Also the SAP to CAs are too op for it.

>Let's nerf all the ships that kill me very fast

>Let's nerf all the fascist ships

Oh so they can all be horribly out tiered like Bismarck and beat to death by everyone? lmbo. 

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11 hours ago, sasquatch_research said:

Hey

Anything can citadel them with a broadside.  But he can you for a lot more damage for most angles.  Your AP will just ricochet, and your HE is rather Meh most of the time.

 

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If your clan can't get angles on him, your positioning wrong, or your focus fire isn't working.

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5 hours ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

If your clan can't get angles on him, your positioning wrong, or your focus fire isn't working.

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Oh, make no mistake, after I died thanks to a game freeze up issue that was about 2 reloads in length; the rest of the crew killed him and we went on to a win for that Clan battle match.  All the same, that SAP was brutally effective even when well angled.

 

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9 hours ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

If your clan can't get angles on him, your positioning wrong, or your focus fire isn't working.

A Ven at 15-20k in the corner... nothing you can do.  Pls show me the replay where your clan is crushing two Venezias on a flank.

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2 hours ago, n00bot said:

A Ven at 15-20k in the corner... nothing you can do.  Pls show me the replay where your clan is crushing two Venezias on a flank.

3 stalin's,  2 Rico's had no problem turning 2 Venezia's away from flank and taking cap.

Granted, we are not playing in the top 2 leagues yet so we haven't faced the better clans, but those that bring 2cof em have been 1 clan. Ran into 2 other clans running 1.

 

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21 hours ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

3 stalin's,  2 Rico's had no problem turning 2 Venezia's away from flank and taking cap.

Granted, we are not playing in the top 2 leagues yet so we haven't faced the better clans, but those that bring 2cof em have been 1 clan. Ran into 2 other clans running 1.

So you're saying that if it's 5v2 it's not too bad?

FFS nerf the Venezia

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8 minutes ago, n00bot said:

So you're saying that if it's 5v2 it's not too bad?

FFS nerf the Venezia

What we have run into so far is 2 Venezia running a flank with a Stalingrad holding an island in support. Just happened we had 4 ships on that side and my Moskva had range to hit them from mid point I was anchored at.

Our sole Venezia got focused amd had to retreat.

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Now higher league play might be running 3 Venezia's,  but we haven't run into that meta yet.

 

We have seen a Hak, 3 Stalingrads and 3 Klebers....

 

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Think about this, 1 CV and 6 Venezia :P They can sit in rolling smoke, let CV spot, and take out any cruiser in a couple of minutes. They also have decent angling, plus good speed (with flags around 36 kts) and maneuverability. Almost forgot they also have a 40mm bulkhead so can reasonably bow on if forced to. They also consistently chunk out 5 to 10k damage per salvo consistently.

I div'ed in my Venezia with 2 other Venezia's the other day in randoms (yes someone on our team called us a cancer div :) ). 1st ship we saw was a full health Des Moines. 2 full salvoes from all 3 Venezia and the Des Moines was history, next boat sighted was a Zao with the same results, the Moskava took abit longer because he saw the other 2 ships deleted and ran but by the end of the 5th min of the game we had killed 3 ships. When the battle was over we had killed 8 of the 12 boats on the other side and the lowest health Venezia was around 2/3's.

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