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Does anyone have any insights on why battleship players after 9.2 are so low? Its been constant 6 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers and 1 BB + 1CV per game. Did WG tweaked something with their matchmaking? 

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9 minutes ago, NT___ said:

Does anyone have any insights on why battleship players after 9.2 are so low? Its been constant 6 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers and 1 BB + 1CV per game. Did WG tweaked something with their matchmaking? 

what tier?

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????

MM only picks from the population of ships in queue... IF there are less BBs at a given time, MM can't change that.

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I just played a battle teamed with 4 other BBs, 1 CV, 4 CA and 2 DDs... all tier 7 and 8 escorting my poor New Mexico.  By the time I paddled into range I was facing a pair of Massachusetts and a gawd awfully fast destroyer.  I don't think the number of battleships is the problem.

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43 minutes ago, NT___ said:

Does anyone have any insights on why battleship players after 9.2 are so low? Its been constant 6 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers and 1 BB + 1CV per game. Did WG tweaked something with their matchmaking? 

What tiers are you playing? Almost all the matches I have been in have had at least 3 BBs. 

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15 minutes ago, Taichunger said:

What tiers are you playing? Almost all the matches I have been in have had at least 3 BBs. 

People are used to 5 in every game.

 

It's because of the patch. DD populations will go down as people get tired of the line and finish the campaign. Then we will go back to a 5 BB meta.

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new DD hype means more people are playing the new DD im sure numbers will return to normal eventually until submarines are introduced and i hope nobody is stupid enough to play battleships.

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1 hour ago, NT___ said:

Does anyone have any insights on why battleship players after 9.2 are so low? Its been constant 6 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers and 1 BB + 1CV per game. Did WG tweaked something with their matchmaking? 

Normal ebb and flow. Most recent new lines were CA and DD next new line is also CA. So... will probably be like that for awhile.

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7 minutes ago, ITZ_ACE_BABY said:

new DD hype means more people are playing the new DD im sure numbers will return to normal eventually until submarines are introduced and i hope nobody is stupid enough to play battleships.

LOL. Good point. For me as I enjoy playing against the Meta I will probably play a large dose of BB's. Likely German I mean I am not totally crazy.

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Just now, paradat said:

LOL. Good point. For me as I enjoy playing against the Meta I will probably play a large dose of BB's

good luck to you, when 2 torps can do 40k damage to a tier 6 bb im kind of concerned for what wargamings excellent balancing team will give the tier 10 subs.

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Just now, ITZ_ACE_BABY said:

good luck to you, when 2 torps can do 40k damage to a tier 6 bb im kind of concerned for what wargamings excellent balancing team will give the tier 10 subs.

Thanks. Well you will not see me charging the caps early game lol. 

Also knowing the torp range of the subs you are facing is a big deal. Obviously paying attention to the mini map is even more important.

BB HE shells do a crazy amount of damage to subs as well. So there is a mutual don't get caught scenario to be explored. 

Yeah time will tell on tier 8 and 10. For tier 6 if subs stay as they are then I am not overly concerned. 

So yeah if a blind sub surfaces to spot in Range of a BB that is aware of them then boom. If a BB wanders off alone and is aggressively closing on an unknown Sub then boom again. Again lots of new Meta inbound.

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34 minutes ago, Sou1forge said:

People are used to 5 in every game

I very rarely see 5 in a game any more but 4 a lot and I have not noticed less BBs myself .

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More DDs, because of the EU DD missions.

I played my GA a couple days ago. Went up to support a cap behind a shima. There were 5 DDs per side. A Friesland, Harugumo, and one of the new EU DDs decided this cap was the one to go for. Our shima got run over, and I spent the next 5 minutes eating a constant hail of DD caliber HE, being perma spotted and chunked by their BBs, finally going down having done virtually nothing.

I said screw that and got my Moskva. Haven't played a BB since.

Yeah, there's things you can do against a DD in a BB, but with that many DDs floating around, it's not a lot of fun, so people are playing either DDs or cruisers. Give it time, it will balance out. When the new RU cruisers hit people will shift to BBs to blap them (or try at least). I'm betting the DD population will crash though with that many radar cruisers.

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1 minute ago, AJTP89 said:

Yeah, there's things you can do against a DD in a BB, but with that many DDs floating around, it's not a lot of fun, so people are playing either DDs or cruisers. Give it time, it will balance out. When the new RU cruisers hit people will shift to BBs to blap them (or try at least). I'm betting the DD population will crash though with that many radar cruisers.

It always does. 

BBs as a class actually have better tools to deal with DDs than DDs have against their counters. I've been seeing a lot of Kurfurst for example, because it has German hydro. You can also take ships with good secondaries to mitigate the threat like Massachusetts. Moerover it takes longer for a DD to kill a BB on average, and in the meantime the BB can usually still put in work. This is one of the reasons (besides people just preferring the big ships with big guns like they always do) that BB populations are still moderate, even with a massive incentive to play DDs right now. 

 

Radar tree releases on the other hand... Being a DD in a 4 or 5 radar game is real real rough. It probably wont be as bad as the Worcester release, but especially as some of those ships have stealth radar last I checked, and they all have Russian railguns, being in a DD is gonna be a bad time pretty much no matter what DD it is. But that's just how the game is balanced. If its a DD patch, swap your consumables. If its a radar patch, dump DDs.

On the plus side DDs who are really good will be able to make the skill disparity work. Raw numbers with damage will be down, but being the only DD alive because your other teams DD couldn't hack it is always a plus.

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2 hours ago, NT___ said:

Does anyone have any insights on why battleship players after 9.2 are so low? Its been constant 6 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers and 1 BB + 1CV per game. Did WG tweaked something with their matchmaking? 

One needs to go to the actual data to find out the truth of the matter. http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/index.html

It appears that slightly fewer BBs are being played at higher tiers but this is offset by more BBs being played at lower tiers. Overall, BB numbers are actually slightly up.

Players/battles

16974 470343   -352 -3336
7777 194533   514 16686
24751 664876   162 13350
         
17326 473679      
7263 177847      
24589 651526      

 

 

 

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There were a number of people on the Public Test Server, this past weekend.
The test-driving of submarines might have drawn some people away from sailing their BB's in normal battles/operations.

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1 hour ago, ITZ_ACE_BABY said:

new DD hype means more people are playing the new DD im sure numbers will return to normal eventually until submarines are introduced and i hope nobody is stupid enough to play battleships.

It's always a good time to play a BB, even when the submarines arrive.

Who do you think gets to blap those DDs and Cruisers trying to run down the submarines? :Smile_veryhappy:  There's going to be DD & Cruiser players that will literally put themselves on a silver platter to try to get over to and depth charge a submarine.  Even on PTS I was seeing it happen.  New Mexicos and sh*t picking off CLs that go a bit too far to kill a sub.

11 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

There were a number of people on the Public Test Server, this past weekend.
The test-driving of submarines might have drawn some people away from sailing their BB's in normal battles/operations.

And when the update goes Live, you're going to see the numbers skew for a while.  When the US Cruiser Split happened there were tons of US Cruisers all over the place.

I foresee a lot of participation in Submarines when they go Live, a lot more than CVs.

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I had one match yesterday with only 1 BB per side.  The rest were normal, 3-5 BBs which is what I've come to expect.

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16 hours ago, NT___ said:

Does anyone have any insights on why battleship players after 9.2 are so low? Its been constant 6 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers and 1 BB + 1CV per game. Did WG tweaked something with their matchmaking? 

I have seen and had games with no BBs. It's because of the IFHE changes and a lot of DDs around.

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4 minutes ago, Hammer_Senpai said:

I have seen and had games with no BBs. It's because of the IFHE changes and a lot of DDs around.

This hasn't been my experience.  I don't think I've seen a single game recently with no BBs.  Most games there are 3-5 BBs, which doesn't look any different than normal to me.  I HAVE recently had two games with zero DDs, and several more with only one DD.  But BBs are alive and well, as far as I can tell.  

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1 hour ago, Midshipman_Hornblower said:

This hasn't been my experience.  I don't think I've seen a single game recently with no BBs.  Most games there are 3-5 BBs, which doesn't look any different than normal to me.  I HAVE recently had two games with zero DDs, and several more with only one DD.  But BBs are alive and well, as far as I can tell.  

No BBs are rare, but I have been seeing a lot less BBs. And it's not just me, I have seen a ton of screenshots of team scores and there are certainly less BBs than before.

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