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The funny thing is that the USN in the 1930's actually went back to the Tillman designs briefly with 508mm guns, one was at 70,000 tons and another at 80,000 tons. Also the USN were against torpedo's on any of their battleships post the first World War so why does your 1940's design have 8 of them?

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2 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

So I had a thought yesterday about an American Super Battleship that can rival Japan's super Battleship, Shikihima.

USS Maine specifications:

 

Main Armament: 510 mm guns in a 2x4 pcs in a A-Y layout and 2x3 pcs in a B-X layout with reload: 30 sec  damage HE: 6 200 chance of fire: 30% AP:15 500  Firing Range: 24.5 km

Secondary Armament 10x1 127mm/54 Mk39  range  5km  reload 4 sec, 15 shots per min (midway's secondary guns)

AA Defense:  42 20mm Orlikon (single and double barreled mounts)  16 40mm Bofors in quads  6x2 127mm guns  ranges 2.01 20mm guns, 3.51 40mm, 5.19 127mm

Torpedoes:  533 mm Mk 15  rate of fire 98 sec  7.6 sec turn rate 2x4 (one set/side)  14,150 damage 60 kts   6.5 range (these are benham torps but with some worse stats)

hull (A): 1,500,000 hit points   armor 8-569 mm @ 20* angle  torpedo protection 47%

speed 32 kts propulsion 4 shafts, 2 rudders, power 200,000 hp (power-plant is the same as Montana)

turning circle 1000m rudder shift time 24.8 sec

Concealment 17.64 km surface  13.84 km Air

Consumables 15 sec active and 70 sec reload Damage Control Party, Massachusetts Repair party, Spotter Aircraft of Fighter Aircraft (same times as Montana airplanes)  Radar 12km 40 sec 120 min reload 3 charges 7.5 ship detection (special US radar)  Hydroacoustic Search 100 sec, 120 reload 3 charges torpedo detection 3 km ship detection 4 km (tier IV-VII US hydro)

* fictional ship, no images, sorry folks :( *

if you don't like something specific or in general, please don't yell at me, this is a proposal ship and wargaming can and will change these things if it does come out to make sure it is balanced, thank you and happy killing reds Captains!  :)

because, I want to try something new and something totally unexpected and since US BBs never had torpedoes, why no have them?

but then again, its not a 0.000000000000...1% chance they may implement it as a "unique ship"  :/

and besides, this a proposal, so Im not going to be mad if its not going to go into the game, again proposal, just saying.

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6 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

So I had a thought yesterday about an American Super Battleship that can rival Japan's super Battleship, Shikihima.

USS Maine specifications:

 

Main Armament: 510 mm guns in a 2x4 pcs in a A-Y layout and 2x3 pcs in a B-X layout with reload: 30 sec  damage HE: 6 200 chance of fire: 30% AP:15 500  Firing Range: 24.5 km

Secondary Armament 10x1 127mm/54 Mk39  range  5km  reload 4 sec, 15 shots per min (midway's secondary guns)

AA Defense:  42 20mm Orlikon (single and double barreled mounts)  16 40mm Bofors in quads  6x2 127mm guns  ranges 2.01 20mm guns, 3.51 40mm, 5.19 127mm

Torpedoes:  533 mm Mk 15  rate of fire 98 sec  7.6 sec turn rate 2x4 (one set/side)  14,150 damage 60 kts   6.5 range (these are benham torps but with some worse stats)

hull (A): 1,500,000 hit points   armor 8-569 mm @ 20* angle  torpedo protection 47%

speed 32 kts propulsion 4 shafts, 2 rudders, power 200,000 hp (power-plant is the same as Montana)

turning circle 1000m rudder shift time 24.8 sec

Concealment 17.64 km surface  13.84 km Air

Consumables 15 sec active and 70 sec reload Damage Control Party, Massachusetts Repair party, Spotter Aircraft of Fighter Aircraft (same times as Montana airplanes)  Radar 12km 40 sec 120 min reload 3 charges 7.5 ship detection (special US radar)  Hydroacoustic Search 100 sec, 120 reload 3 charges torpedo detection 3 km ship detection 4 km (tier IV-VII US hydro)

* fictional ship, no images, sorry folks :( *

if you don't like something specific or in general, please don't yell at me, this is a proposal ship and wargaming can and will change these things if it does come out to make sure it is balanced, thank you and happy killing reds Captains!  :)

 

Why not just go for Tillman 4-1or -2 or Tillman 1 or Tillman 4 because the 21 and 20 inch gun ideas, are not as glamorous as it sounds. 

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5 hours ago, Captain_Cubby said:

I'd adjust the secondaries to be as good as or better than German secondaries, greater range and damage. Make them 6 " or 8" and minimum 12 km range.

To put that on this idea I don't believe it will last long. But I would agree this can be implemented on a new U.S battleship line.

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So now that I'm looking at this closer I have some suggestions and questions. 

14 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

Main Armament: 510 mm guns in a 2x4 pcs in a A-Y layout and 2x3 pcs in a B-X layout

I would recommend changing it to 508mm guns seeing as how the largest the USN even dreamt of was 508mm. Also why does this thing have 14 510mm guns. The Shikihima only has 6, while Yamato has 9 460mm guns, this thing out guns every other tier 10 in the game and only has a 30sec reload.

14 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

10x1 127mm/54 Mk39

For the secondary's it has only ten 127mm guns yet.

14 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

6x2 127mm guns

You say for the AA that it has 12 127mm guns so just change the AA numbers.

14 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

speed 32 kts propulsion 4 shafts, 2 rudders, power 200,000 hp (power-plant is the same as Montana)

I would like to point out that this monster you've made weighs roughly 1.2 million tons going by WG's BB HP formula and yet moves 2 knots Faster than Montana using the same power plant.

14 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

1,500,000 hit points

This HP stat is so ridiculous that it's not even funny it trumps Kremlin almost 14 times over.

14 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

Massachusetts Repair party

So on top of the HP it also gets a Massachusetts heal, and...

14 hours ago, cmjohnson207 said:

Radar 12km 40 sec 120 min reload 3 charges 7.5 ship detection (special US radar)

It also gets the single best radar in the entire game.

To say the least I think this needs some "minor" changes done to it, maybe it could work if it were more reasonable but the ship you have suggested, is impossible to put into the game and expect any semblance of balance to remain.

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