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After putting up a separate thread about how the new DD's are complete garbage,  I found the one gem of the bunch so far.... the Ostergotland! What a great ship! Threw some flags/camo on and ground out all of the XP I need for the Halland. Just so happens I got the permo-camo on the very last battle I needed to play to get the Halland. 

The real dilemma now is whether I want to suck it up and play the others to get the permo-camo for the Halland. 

 

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This line is OP. Fast guns with great DPM. Fun torps. Amazing AA. Amazing heal. Havent had this much fun ever. Thanks Wargaming.

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I intentionally started at Visby and went tier by tier to grind the perm camo so I wouldn't get a great ship and have to go backwards in ability.

Visby was fun and fast. weird with 1 gun reloading faster than others

t6 was a mild uprgade

t7 was a real treat especillay when not up tiered by 9s. 8s it could handle

Oland I had monster games in.

t9 faced was hot or cold to the extremes.

IMO or my playstyle landing torps was crucial to racking up damage. I didn't win too many straight up gun fights even with dds at mostly full health. the guns were wonky. i used guns as a last resort or to finish off crippled ships.

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12 minutes ago, wstugamd said:

I intentionally started at Visby and went tier by tier to grind the perm camo so I wouldn't get a great ship and have to go backwards in ability.

Visby was fun and fast. weird with 1 gun reloading faster than others

t6 was a mild uprgade

t7 was a real treat especillay when not up tiered by 9s. 8s it could handle

Oland I had monster games in.

t9 faced was hot or cold to the extremes.

IMO or my playstyle landing torps was crucial to racking up damage. I didn't win too many straight up gun fights even with dds at mostly full health. the guns were wonky. i used guns as a last resort or to finish off crippled ships.

This is basically my experience, except I am still 90 tokens shy of Ostergotland. Skane is workable against Tier VIII and a monster against Tier V and VI.

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Building for guns on the Ostergotland, Halländ and Småland give them equivalent HE and AP DPM to the likes of Harugumo and Daring, and the 15km torpedoes are pretty nasty area denial weapons.

The only downsides I have to complain about are the low torpedo damage and the lack of smoke. But heck, these botes are amazing

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P.S: all hail the flatpack navy

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I wouldn't know, The event was ruined by WGs discrimination of Co op/PVE players. Another attempt by WG to discourage PVE play, has brought the taste of bile to my taste buds. I can't get some of the containers for this event, unless I play Random battles. Further more the tasks can't even be accomplished in Co op because of the base XP factor. PVE is also not included in the Twitch missions. What WG? my time isn't as valuable as Random players time is? Being forced to play a mode that infuriates me, is the only way for me to get more of the EU DDs. A sad sad time it is for equality. Even some of the KOTS missions are not able to be accomplished in Co op. If you don't want people to play these modes just get rid of them. I have a huge investment in this game. Don't ruin it for just because you want me to play a game mode that sucks for so many reasons. Poor MM, 3 tier MM, Campers, Rushers and lemmings, poor team communications and toxic atmosphere, just so much fun (not). I have 121 premium ships, I spent the money, I deserve to be treated like any other player.

I don't know about the rest of the ships but the first two really suck, I suppose I won't get to know what the other ones are like, being excluded from a significant portion of the containers.

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4 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

I wouldn't know, The event was ruined by WGs discrimination of Co op/PVE players. Another attempt by WG to discourage PVE play, has brought the taste of bile to my taste buds. I can't get some of the containers for this event, unless I play Random battles. Further more the tasks can't even be accomplished in Co op because of the base XP factor. PVE is also not included in the Twitch missions. What WG? my time isn't as valuable as Random players time is? Being forced to play a mode that infuriates me, is the only way for me to get more of the EU DDs. A sad sad time it is for equality. Even some of the KOTS missions are not able to be accomplished in Co op. If you don't want people to play these modes just get rid of them. I have a huge investment in this game. Don't ruin it for just because you want me to play a game mode that sucks for so many reasons. Poor MM, 3 tier MM, Campers, Rushers and lemmings, poor team communications and toxic atmosphere, just so much fun (not).

I wouldn't know because I didn't buy tokens for TECH TREE ships lol 

It seems like everyone is overpaying for camos on ships they may not use beyond the event or just to get the t10 camo 

 

 

My solution: Irish camo … I have over 100 of those I think

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2 minutes ago, Commander_367 said:

I wouldn't know because I didn't buy tokens for TECH TREE ships lol 

Well you don't have to buy tokens but getting some of the containers shouldn't be Random and Ranked exclusive.

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7 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

Well you don't have to buy tokens but getting some of the containers shouldn't be Random and Ranked exclusive.

Isn't this the player's choice?  It applies across the board to every player.  If you don't want to play ranked or randoms, then you accept the lower reward due to the lower risk.  

I did the same thing for ranked.  I started off strong and went up a few ranks. However I told myself that once I get on a losing streak to just stop and call it a day.  The losing streak happened and one more loss would have put me back a rank.  I wanted the steel and flags, but not that bad.  

By the way there is no shame in this, but I don't see WG making the same rewards and progression scale across the game types. Actually, a good chunk of the directives allow for a lot (if not all) game types to complete the tasks.  

GL.  

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8 minutes ago, mpwardawg said:

Isn't this the player's choice?  It applies across the board to every player.  If you don't want to play ranked or randoms, then you accept the lower reward due to the lower risk.

Sure lower reward but this is no reward, I spend time here the same as any other player, I watched the stupid live streams the same as any random player. this event is for EU DDs and I have 2 of them from the containers that I could get so far. King of the seas and twitch I guess they can discriminate against and it's not so big of a deal, except of course for the discrimination. Why PVE players should be excluded from obtaining some of the EU containers is a travesty and it is just plain discrimination. WG has bigots behind the helm.

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3 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

Sure lower reward but this is no reward, I spend time here the same as any other player, I watched the stupid live streams the same as any random player. this event is for EU DDs and I have 2 of them from the containers that I could get so far. King of the seas and twitch I guess they can discriminate against and it's not so big of a deal, except of course for the discrimination. Why PVE players should be excluded from obtaining some of the EU containers is a travesty and it is just plain discrimination. WG has bigots behind the helm.

Well that escalated quickly. If you see me online I can division with you in randoms.  While there certainly can be terrible teams and all of the bad stuff you described, I still find them fun and more providing in terms of economy and dynamic game flow.

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2 minutes ago, mpwardawg said:

Well that escalated quickly. If you see me online I can division with you in randoms.  While there certainly can be terrible teams and all of the bad stuff you described, I still find them fun and more providing in terms of economy and dynamic game flow.

I appreciate that, thanks but I don't like the random playstyle. Teams are uncoordinated some push some hide some don't do anything, I choose Co op where it's more of a lone wolf meta.

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3 hours ago, General_Lee_Miserable said:

After putting up a separate thread about how the new DD's are complete garbage, 

Dude, you are quack!

At least about Visby. Attach speed flag, turn nitro on and you get a Jet Ski with guns!! Funniest ship I've played in a while. Torps are so trolly, BBs get hysterical when they start getting torps salvos every minute. I've landed about 12 in just one battleship before it goes down.

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31 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

I appreciate that, thanks but I don't like the random playstyle. Teams are uncoordinated some push some hide some don't do anything, I choose Co op where it's more of a lone wolf meta.

Np.  But it sounds like you just defined lone wolf in both playstyles lol.  

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59 minutes ago, mpwardawg said:

Well that escalated quickly. If you see me online I can division with you in randoms.  While there certainly can be terrible teams and all of the bad stuff you described, I still find them fun and more providing in terms of economy and dynamic game flow.

 

53 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

I appreciate that, thanks but I don't like the random playstyle. Teams are uncoordinated some push some hide some don't do anything, I choose Co op where it's more of a lone wolf meta.

@mpwardawg I think it is justified in this case, not at you but rather WG. The fact is everyone who plays this game is part of the community and the rewards you get (credits, XP etc), dependent on the mode, is already different.

 

It's like going to the same restaurant that provides different choices, you decide you like one dish and you go again and again, ordering additional sides, drinks, basically spending money supporting the restaurant. Then the restaurant says there is going to be free desert, for those that eat a specific meal choice - a meal choice you hate. Of course that is the restaurant prerogative, but why shouldn't you get pissed off about it?

Then what is really great is where the people that happen to like the meal that you hate, tell you 'well you could always order the meal you hate and get the desert'. Yeah, of course, but as part of the community supporting the game restaurant, shouldn't the desert offer include you? :Smile_honoring:

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4 hours ago, wstugamd said:

I intentionally started at Visby and went tier by tier to grind the perm camo so I wouldn't get a great ship and have to go backwards in ability.

How do you know how much XP to grind when neither the game client or WoWS Wiki shows the XP required for each ship?

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2 hours ago, _WaveRider_ said:

 

@mpwardawg I think it is justified in this case, not at you but rather WG. The fact is everyone who plays this game is part of the community and the rewards you get (credits, XP etc), dependent on the mode, is already different.

 

It's like going to the same restaurant that provides different choices, you decide you like one dish and you go again and again, ordering additional sides, drinks, basically spending money supporting the restaurant. Then the restaurant says there is going to be free desert, for those that eat a specific meal choice - a meal choice you hate. Of course that is the restaurant prerogative, but why shouldn't you get pissed off about it?

Then what is really great is where the people that happen to like the meal that you hate, tell you 'well you could always order the meal you hate and get the desert'. Yeah, of course, but as part of the community supporting the game restaurant, shouldn't the desert offer include you? :Smile_honoring:

Nice post.

Rather than a restaurant, I would equate WOWs more as a casino.  The high rollers get the extra buffet and free room more often than a guy like me who plays the $10 blackjack.  I wind up with the warm can of PBR.

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26 minutes ago, mpwardawg said:

Nice post.

Rather than a restaurant, I would equate WOWs more as a casino.  The high rollers get the extra buffet and free room more often than a guy like me who plays the $10 blackjack.  I wind up with the warm can of PBR.

And there you have the issue - the Restaurant is a very good comparison. Your Casino is a poor one, but I know why you used it; so let me use your example:

For some reason the people playing Poker think they are better than those playing Roulette. You yourself used the $10 example as if those that play Co-Op bring less money to the table, I believe you are wrong - Co-Op players spend money on the game too. Using your example both modes offer high rollers.

Both wear the same suits (play the same ships), spend the same money (on premiums time, ships etc), support the same casino and can still win or lose money based on the construct (earning available) to each particular mode they play. Both modes are merely games, no one is a professional gamer, no one really dies, we merely return to port and press Battle again. The real value to the House is the money the customer brings to the Casino.

 

Yet the house decides they want everyone to play Poker, even though the support both players give to the Casino in real terms is identical. So just flip it around and have the game of Poker miss out on the extra buffet even though they contribute to the game as much as the Roulette players. And there you have the Jane Elliot Blue Eyes Brown Eyes Experiment (Call yourself a Star Trek fan where everybody is supposedly valued :Smile_smile::Smile_teethhappy:)

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5 minutes ago, _WaveRider_ said:

And there you have the issue - the Restaurant is a very good comparison. Your Casino is a poor one, but I know why you used it; so let me use your example:

For some reason the people playing Poker think they are better than those playing Roulette. You yourself used the $10 example as if those that play Co-Op bring less money to the table, I believe you are wrong - Co-Op players spend money on the game too. Using your example both modes offer high rollers.

Both wear the same suits (play the same ships), spend the same money (on premiums time, ships etc), support the same casino and can still win or lose money based on the construct (earning available) to each particular mode they play. Both modes are merely games, no one is a professional gamer, no one really dies, we merely return to port and press Battle again. The real value to the House is the money the customer brings to the Casino.

 

Yet the house decides they want everyone to play Poker, even though the support both players give to the Casino in real terms is identical. So just flip it around and have the game of Poker miss out on the extra buffet even though they contribute to the game as much as the Roulette players. And there you have the Jane Elliot Blue Eyes Brown Eyes Experiment (Call yourself a Star Trek fan where everybody is supposedly valued :Smile_smile::Smile_teethhappy:)

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The bolded part isnt true in casinos, and probably isnt true here either. It's important to note this, different games bring in different amounts of money. It's why you see a disproportionate amount of slot machines to other games in casinos. 

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3 minutes ago, Rollingonit said:

The bolded part isnt true in casinos, and probably isnt true here either. It's important to note this, different games bring in different amounts of money. It's why you see a disproportionate amount of slot machines to other games in casinos. 

What do you mean when you say probably?

I have a strong feeling that @AdmiralThunder probably provides WG (the Casino) with a great deal of income. Many other Co-Op players spend equal to or 'probably' more than Random players. I have around 34 Premium ships (I think it was around that when I counted up in a recent thread), I have Premium Time, I have Doubloons.

All WG have made me do by limiting the opportunities in the game mode that they provided and I enjoy, is spend less time on the game and less (no) money.

 

Again, their choice, but whatever they are trying to do (like so many other choices they make), is not working with me. :Smile_honoring:

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3 minutes ago, _WaveRider_ said:

What do you mean when you say probably?

I have a strong feeling that @AdmiralThunder probably provides WG (the Casino) with a great deal of income. Many other Co-Op players spend equal to or 'probably' more than Random players. I have around 34 Premium ships (I think it was around that when I counted up in a recent thread), I have Premium Time, I have Doubloons.

All WG have made me do by limiting the opportunities in the game mode that they provided and I enjoy, is spend less time on the game and less (no) money.

 

Again, their choice, but whatever they are trying to do (like so many other choices they make), is not working with me. :Smile_honoring:

I doubt PVP and PVE players spend identical amounts of money, as you stated. Which way it leans, is anyones guess, but based off WGs actions I suspect it's PVP. How much the actual difference is, is just a guess as well. 

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2 minutes ago, Rollingonit said:

I doubt PVP and PVE players spend identical amounts of money, as you stated. Which way it leans, is anyones guess, but based off WGs actions I suspect it's PVP. How much the actual difference is, is just a guess as well. 

I doubt you are right. I wouldn't be surprised that if you take into the account the ratio, both spend similar amounts.

Now if you are saying 'overall' more is spent by Random players because more play Randoms, I would say you are right. But if 50% of people played Randoms and 50% played Co-Op, I expect there would not be much difference - why, because ever player supports this game differently whether playing Randoms or Co-Op, I see people in Randoms without camo or signals, I see players in Co-Op with camo and signals.

 

We all support this game, no matter the mode - the enjoyment and support of the game does not depend on the mode - so nor should the opportunities. :Smile_honoring:

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3 hours ago, Ace_04 said:

How do you know how much XP to grind when neither the game client or WoWS Wiki shows the XP required for each ship?

There were in game missions for t5-9 based on base xp to get a perma camo for each tier 5-9. I just finished the t9 and it was 27500 base xp, but I started at the t5 so I would getting "improved" ships as I moved up instead of back. I got the dds from eu tokens. If I completed all 5 missions for perm camo, I get a perm for smal and halland

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19 minutes ago, wstugamd said:

There were in game missions for t5-9 based on base xp to get a perma camo for each tier 5-9. I just finished the t9 and it was 27500 base xp, but I started at the t5 so I would getting "improved" ships as I moved up instead of back. I got the dds from eu tokens. If I completed all 5 missions for perm camo, I get a perm for smal and halland

You bought doubloon bundles or bought the head start package to get to tier 9 is what you’re saying.  

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