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I play CV and I found it funny however I didn't think people hate CVs so much though :Smile_ohmy: So much saltyness I don't think people where this butthurt or salty about DDs :Smile_hiding:

 

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1 minute ago, LastRemnant said:

I play CV and I found it funny however I didn't think people hate CVs so much though :Smile_ohmy: So much saltyness I don't think people where this butthurt or salty about DDs :Smile_hiding:

 

DDs have many counters and that's why they have the lowest averages in the game. CVs, on the other hand, have little counter.

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This is so easy to counter. And CV players if you see them trying this on you focus the bastard down.

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1 minute ago, Leopard_IX said:

DDs have many counters and that's why they have the lowest averages in the game. CVs, on the other hand, have little counter.

They have a low average because most of you don't know how to play the META. Has absolutely nothing to do with CVs.

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1 minute ago, Masingi said:

They have a low average because most of you don't know how to play the META. Has absolutely nothing to do with CVs.

I'm talking about counters for CVs and DDs and why many people don't like CVs.

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A smart team can counter a CV, even the best CV player out there can't do anything if the enemy team doesn't make a mistake 

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So to counter a CV, we need a CV?

Doesn't seem to eliminate CVs.

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1 hour ago, Sinboto said:

Laughs in HMS Implacable. 

Even though I have the Implacable... why is this? Is it built like a tank?

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1 minute ago, Waxing_Gibbous said:

Even though I have the Implacable... why is this? Is it built like a tank?

Because of it's armored flight deck, the shells would just bounce off of it , same with Indomitable 

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2 minutes ago, Waxing_Gibbous said:

Even though I have the Implacable... why is this? Is it built like a tank?

The deck of the implacable is armoured, so the long range plunging fire that is required to kill off the CV like that is not going to punch through. 

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13 minutes ago, Ishizuchi said:

A smart team can counter a CV, even the best CV player out there can't do anything if the enemy team doesn't make a mistake 

uhhh I mean have you seen the players of this game, a smart team isn't an option 99.99% of the time. 

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Then it really isn't the CV being overpowered, but the players not responding well to it  

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2 minutes ago, Ishizuchi said:

Then it really isn't the CV being overpowered, but the players not responding well to it  

If they only way to counter a ship is with teamwork, than yes, that ship is OP. No other ship requires a that much of work to kill. WOrking wiht other players might make it easier, but not needed. 

 

Also, to make this work you need to help of a CV... otherwise something like this would never be possible. So you need a Cv and a group of ships to counter a CV... balans...

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Yuro has made a fairly good point about any carrier with an armored flight deck. That being said, higher velocity guns like the ones found on Stalingrad, FdG, Curry, Republique and Bourgogne will have very little trouble finding the citadel of most CVs even at ranges up to of 23 kilometers. Anything longer, and we'll have to call in Yammy or Montana, and even there, at ranges longer than 28 kilometers, since the armored flight deck of most Tier 10 carriers and the Illustrious-class creates a large immunity zone between 23km and 27.9 km.

Or we could just call in Yashima )))

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Easy, take a CV and sink the enemy CV.   Midway is the costliest to kill with its AA if the CV is competent, Audacious and Hak are the easy kills.  It will cost about 2 rocket planes and 4-5 TBs, but CVs can take out CVs.  I've done it many times in ranked.  If you have a range mod BB (or spotter plane) help like yam, thunder, or monty  (possibly others) you can get it done faster and it costs 2 rockets and 2, maybe 3 TBs.  Trivial considering the benefit it adds to the match.

With CVs joining the next CBs, you'll begin to see more of it.  I've sunk a lex and a midway in the same battle, granted it was midway and lex vs the same.

This is from last night, 54k damage to audacious cost me 2 rocket planes and 2 TBs -- the thunderer got the last shot
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7 hours ago, IsatoYuy said:

CV kill techniques

Many thanks to Yuro

Pig?
Luckily Franz sets the autopilot of his CVs before pushing that PLAY button.
A CV always moves.
Oink Goltz!

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Doesnt work the same with RN CVs due to the armored deck. Will take much longer and the CV will move by then.

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7 hours ago, Ishizuchi said:

A smart team can counter a CV, even the best CV player out there can't do anything if the enemy team doesn't make a mistake 

The fairly recent 12vs12 CB proves that this isn't even remotely true. Even against coordinated top clans CVs were easily able to clean clock.

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6 hours ago, NoSoMo said:

Easy, take a CV and sink the enemy CV.   Midway is the costliest to kill with its AA if the CV is competent, Audacious and Hak are the easy kills.  It will cost about 2 rocket planes and 4-5 TBs, but CVs can take out CVs.  I've done it many times in ranked.  If you have a range mod BB (or spotter plane) help like yam, thunder, or monty  (possibly others) you can get it done faster and it costs 2 rockets and 2, maybe 3 TBs.  Trivial considering the benefit it adds to the match.

With CVs joining the next CBs, you'll begin to see more of it.  I've sunk a lex and a midway in the same battle, granted it was midway and lex vs the same.

This is from last night, 54k damage to audacious cost me 2 rocket planes and 2 TBs -- the thunderer got the last shot
 

So what you're saying in... ships with best AA in game AND fighter cover cannot keep themselves safe from CVs....

Hmmm.... interesting.

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6 hours ago, Taichunger said:

So what you're saying in... ships with best AA in game AND fighter cover cannot keep themselves safe from CVs....

Hmmm.... interesting.

Most CVs don't use their sector reinforcement (140%)  and they're sure as hell not dodging.  There are weaknesses in CVs outside of the fact they can be 1 shotted....  Perhaps you should play them to find them out.  Midway's torp run has just over 30k HP potential.  Haks is less than 20k -- thus a successful torp run on a CV from midway deals more than 50% more damage.  Run with flood flags it averages 1.5 floods per drop.  If the DCP has already been triggered, a single torp run can net up to around 28k against a hak.

At the same time come end of battle in ranked midway was a no-fly-zone for the hak trying to get to my DM teammate sitting 3k from me.  Everything that took off from the hak got blown out of the sky before it could even make a drop.  Needless to say it was an easy "AA expert" award.

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1 hour ago, NoSoMo said:

Most CVs don't use their sector reinforcement (140%)  and they're sure as hell not dodging.  There are weaknesses in CVs outside of the fact they can be 1 shotted....  Perhaps you should play them to find them out. 

Nah, don't feel like ruining the match for other players, making them switch to other modes, preventing them from playing ships they like, driving them to stop spending, or driving them from the game altogether. I have lost too many div mates to this idiotic CV-laden meta, and I don't want to inflict that loss on others. 

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