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I ran a coop in my Cleveland. I was the only non-bot in the match. My complaint is not only was I the only non-bot on my team I was also bottom tiered & facing T10 ships.

We all know that teammate bots provide little support at best as they usually seem to race to be the 1st sunk.

With the rarely miss accuracy and 99% chance of causing fire the enemy bots have facing 5 or 6 enemy ships 2 tiers above you with out any ability to repair is having the odds stacked against you.

I believe this should be corrected.

If there was one other human player on my team I would not be complaining.

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8 minutes ago, kgh52 said:

I ran a coop in my Cleveland. I was the only non-bot in the match. My complaint is not only was I the only non-bot on my team I was also bottom tiered & facing T10 ships.

We all know that teammate bots provide little support at best as they usually seem to race to be the 1st sunk.

With the rarely miss accuracy and 99% chance of causing fire the enemy bots have facing 5 or 6 enemy ships 2 tiers above you with out any ability to repair is having the odds stacked against you.

I believe this should be corrected.

If there was one other human player on my team I would not be complaining.

The MM believes in your impressive skills. Did you win?

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5 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

The MM believes in your impressive skills. Did you win?

Guess not, else this would be a "look how impressive my skils are" and not a "fix MM" thread

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1 minute ago, ArIskandir said:

Guess not, else this would be a "look how impressive my skils are" and not a "fix MM" thread

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17 minutes ago, kgh52 said:

I ran a coop in my Cleveland. I was the only non-bot in the match. My complaint is not only was I the only non-bot on my team I was also bottom tiered & facing T10 ships.

We all know that teammate bots provide little support at best as they usually seem to race to be the 1st sunk.

With the rarely miss accuracy and 99% chance of causing fire the enemy bots have facing 5 or 6 enemy ships 2 tiers above you with out any ability to repair is having the odds stacked against you.

I believe this should be corrected.

If there was one other human player on my team I would not be complaining.

All bot teammates are the best games.

That is when you can get the big bxp games.

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Just now, cecill611 said:

All bot teammates are the best games.

That is when you can get the big bxp games.

:Smile_great:

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5 minutes ago, neptunes_wrath said:

wait,  is this actually an MM complaint thread about COOP???

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We have MM too and when you are saddled with :Fletcher: who goofs off on the player team, you will understand our pain. :) :)

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47 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

The MM believes in your impressive skills. Did you win?

 

40 minutes ago, ArIskandir said:

Guess not, else this would be a "look how impressive my skils are" and not a "fix MM" thread

Not this time but I have won a few matches like this in lower tiers.

36 minutes ago, cecill611 said:

All bot teammates are the best games.

That is when you can get the big bxp games.

I prefer to have one or 2 people on my team. 

 

I should add the number bot "friendly fire" incidents seems to be increasing.

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Look at the bright side of having Bot teammates; They're never AFK, they never trash talk, and they never DC.  :Smile_playing:

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1 minute ago, ReddNekk said:

Look at the bright side of having Bot teammates; They're never AFK, they never trash talk, and they never DC.  :Smile_playing:

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Just now, ReddNekk said:

Look at the bright side of having Bot teammates; They're never AFK, they never trash talk, and they never DC.  :Smile_playing:

True but they will shoot & torpedo you from the backside. Sometimes they launch torpedoes in the opposite direction of enemy ships. Yes, it has happened to me.

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When you get put as the only human player in a co-op game, immediately set yourself up to take advantage of the other meat shields on your team, especially when bottom tier.  They can be tough games, but you can still win if you can help your bots live a bit longer by getting some key damage on enemy ships early on.

You should never be bottom tier in co-op.  That's just bad programming.  I can see being middle tier, but not bottom tier.

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5 minutes ago, kgh52 said:

True but they will shoot & torpedo you from the backside. Sometimes they launch torpedoes in the opposite direction of enemy ships. Yes, it has happened to me.

 

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1 hour ago, ReddNekk said:

Look at the bright side of having Bot teammates; They're never AFK, they never trash talk, and they never DC.  :Smile_playing:

They do team kill though. :Smile_teethhappy:

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1 hour ago, Murcc said:

When you get put as the only human player in a co-op game, immediately set yourself up to take advantage of the other meat shields on your team, especially when bottom tier.  They can be tough games, but you can still win if you can help your bots live a bit longer by getting some key damage on enemy ships early on.

You should never be bottom tier in co-op.  That's just bad programming.  I can see being middle tier, but not bottom tier.

Murc, speaking as a former programmer and software engineer, it's NOT "bad programming".  It's bad software design.  The programmer merely writes the code that performs the actions that the developers asked for.

Also, the way that I'd put it is that in coop battles, the top tier should be no higher than the highest tiered player ship.  In the case of a solo player on a team filled with friendly bots, the battle tier should be that of the solo player's ship.

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1 hour ago, Kizarvexis said:

We have MM too and when you are saddled with :Fletcher: who goofs off on the player team, you will understand our pain. :) :)

that really has nothing at all to do with MM, its just a potato player....in a Fletcher.... it happens, but MM is not to blame... the player is

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Co-op mains complain just to complain... Some like being the lone ranger with a lot of Ais... Then some just find a reason to complain about it...

#leaveCo-opalone

 

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2 hours ago, Murcc said:

When you get put as the only human player in a co-op game, immediately set yourself up to take advantage of the other meat shields on your team, especially when bottom tier.  They can be tough games, but you can still win if you can help your bots live a bit longer by getting some key damage on enemy ships early on.

You should never be bottom tier in co-op.  That's just bad programming.  I can see being middle tier, but not bottom tier.

Many times it is impossible to take advantage of your bot teammates as they die within seconds of 1st contact with the enemy.

1 hour ago, thegamefilmguruman said:

I swear having bot teammates is better than actual ones sometimes in coop...

Yes, this is true most of the time.

12 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

Co-op mains complain just to complain... Some like being the lone ranger with a lot of Ais... Then some just find a reason to complain about it...

#leaveCo-opalone

 

99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all complaints in this forum are from PVP players. Tossing in a complaint about coops, other than how random mains make the poorest coop players, is a change of pace.

BTW, I would be classified as a scenario main.

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1 hour ago, Crucis said:

Murc, speaking as a former programmer and software engineer, it's NOT "bad programming".  It's bad software design.  The programmer merely writes the code that performs the actions that the developers asked for.

Also, the way that I'd put it is that in coop battles, the top tier should be no higher than the highest tiered player ship.  In the case of a solo player on a team filled with friendly bots, the battle tier should be that of the solo player's ship.

My son is programmer and software engineer. I know exactly what you are saying.

I agree but did not want to say "In the case of a solo player on a team filled with friendly bots, the battle tier should be that of the solo player's ship" because I knew I would be getting grief from the fact this is a coop MM complaint. 

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1 or 2 hoomans are good tho'. Better than all AI. Some decisions can be made.

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15 minutes ago, kgh52 said:

My son is programmer and software engineer. I know exactly what you are saying.

I agree but did not want to say "In the case of a solo player on a team filled with friendly bots, the battle tier should be that of the solo player's ship" because I knew I would be getting grief from the fact this is a coop MM complaint. 

Probably should have put this thread in the PVE Content subforum.  Regardless, your complaint is legit, IMO.

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I don't understand why you're complaining.  You get the full Randoms experience without having to deal with real people.  I think WG might be onto something here!!!

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