94 [PUFF] LaBombarde Members 67 posts 4,739 battles Report post #1 Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) Many of you may remember when your Mom would tell you; "Let your Little Sister play!"; and how it ruined whatever you may be trying to enjoy. That's the CV problem we have. 2 CV's vs 2 CV's is usually how that ends. So 4 guys get to sit back and sucker punch and last the entire battle and use the lame excuse of.. NO DUDE,, I LOSE PLANES! I LOSE PLANES DUDE! .. lol, Whatever helps you sleep. We all know CV's are broken. They don't attack each other until the end of the battle. I have a solution. Give the CV's their own lobby, where 4 guys can sink bots and then finally fight each other and leave us alone. Edited February 29, 2020 by LaBombarde 23 4 26 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,095 [WOLFG] Skpstr Members 31,341 posts 9,637 battles Report post #2 Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, LaBombarde said: Many of you may remember when your Mom would tell you; "Let your Little Sister play!"; and how it ruined whatever you may be trying to enjoy. That's the CV problem we have. 2 CV's vs 2 CV's is usually how that ends. So 4 guys get to sit back and sucker punch and last the entire battle and use the lame excuse of.. NO DUDE,, I LOSE PLANES! I LOSE PLANES DUDE! .. lol, Whatever helps you sleep. We all know CV's are broken. They don't attack each other until the end of the battle. I have a solution. Give the CV's their own lobby, where 4 guys can sink bots and then finally fight each other. I have an equally realistic solution to ending armed conflict between countries, just dissolve all nations, and put the UN in charge of the world..... 5 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
94 [PUFF] LaBombarde Members 67 posts 4,739 battles Report post #3 Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Skpstr said: I have an equally realistic solution to ending armed conflict between countries, just dissolve all nations, and put the UN in charge of the world..... I can't see the image. But the quote is funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,171 [SBS] Slimeball91 Members 6,126 posts Report post #4 Posted February 29, 2020 I think that's a good idea. However, I like your "but I lose planes" meme. That got me thinking. Why not have planes only damage AA mounts on ships (and not be able to do any damage to ship's HP). That way they lose planes and can't attack us, and we lose AA guns and can't attack them. That way its a perfectly fair trade. I don't know why no one thought of this sooner. 3 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
94 [PUFF] LaBombarde Members 67 posts 4,739 battles Report post #5 Posted February 29, 2020 I like your idea!!! You're welcome War Gaming. We fixed it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
196 ItsSubmersible Members 707 posts 11,912 battles Report post #6 Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, LaBombarde said: Many of you may remember when your Mom would tell you; "Let your Little Sister play!"; and how it ruined whatever you may be trying to enjoy. That's the CV problem we have. 2 CV's vs 2 CV's is usually how that ends. So 4 guys get to sit back and sucker punch and last the entire battle and use the lame excuse of.. NO DUDE,, I LOSE PLANES! I LOSE PLANES DUDE! .. lol, Whatever helps you sleep. We all know CV's are broken. They don't attack each other until the end of the battle. I have a solution. Give the CV's their own lobby, where 4 guys can sink bots and then finally fight each other and leave us alone. As long as it is something like this, I'm good. Edited February 29, 2020 by ItsSubmersible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,171 [SBS] Slimeball91 Members 6,126 posts Report post #7 Posted February 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, LaBombarde said: I like your idea!!! You're welcome War Gaming. We fixed it. Be careful there with the "we" fixed it. Your contribution consisted of supplying a meme, I did the real heavy lifting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,095 [WOLFG] Skpstr Members 31,341 posts 9,637 battles Report post #8 Posted February 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, LaBombarde said: I can't see the image. Exactly lol! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,522 [NONE] Bilgetwidget Members 3,757 posts Report post #9 Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, LaBombarde said: I have a solution. Give the CV's their own lobby, where 4 guys can sink bots and then finally fight each other and leave us alone. Wouldn't work. Ever seen a human CV in Co-op? Lamer than a 3-legged cow eating jimson weed. The bot AA and torp beats are too much for them. Edited February 29, 2020 by So_lt_Goes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,527 [RKLES] Admiral_Thrawn_1 Members 12,592 posts 14,320 battles Report post #10 Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, So_lt_Goes said: Wouldn't work. Ever seen a human CV in Co-op? Lamer than a 3-legged cow eating jimson weed. The bot AA and torp beats are too much for them. I Actually do ok with CV in Co-Op, and that’s with my using a tier 6 CV and only doing so when I absolutely have to for some mission. Or I might use the CV in Scenario instead. I dislike the new CV and don’t force them upon the Random players anymore. Edited February 29, 2020 by Admiral_Thrawn_1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11,544 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway Members 28,792 posts 25,049 battles Report post #11 Posted February 29, 2020 CVs do get their own mode of play. Co-op Operations Random Ranked ! 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,029 [IXM] Vector03 Members 1,060 posts Report post #12 Posted February 29, 2020 I'd love this, but it will probably never happen. WG needs you to be playing Randoms, and to be frustrated in Randoms. CVs further the latter goal. If CVs had their own game mode, only hardcore CV players would be there, and no one else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
149 [SHAN] Cirran Beta Testers 472 posts Report post #13 Posted February 29, 2020 Hmmm, there are folks on here that don't like every single class in the game. How about we implement this for all ship types? /S Cirran 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11,544 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway Members 28,792 posts 25,049 battles Report post #14 Posted February 29, 2020 You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looked like in World War II. What was also amusing is finding out the US was building large, modern fleet carriers of the Essex-class in a lot shorter time than modern Battleships (source). Less than 2 months after Pearl Harbor, you can see the Industrial Tidal Wave of the Essex-class was on its way. Midway had not been fought yet. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
705 [APEZ] Intricate_Process Members 1,496 posts 9,410 battles Report post #15 Posted February 29, 2020 They are already more PvE than they are PvP, let them have their own co-op with bots to fight. I agree with someone above, frustration and boredom are what push people to spend money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
150 [BEA5T] Noworriesderpy1 Members 482 posts 16,543 battles Report post #16 Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, So_lt_Goes said: Wouldn't work. Ever seen a human CV in Co-op? Lamer than a 3-legged cow eating jimson weed. The bot AA and torp beats are too much for them. I play CV's in Co-op ALOT and yea the Bot AA can be staggering to deal with but you just adjust. The sad part is that it takes so much too get battle damage using CV's which equates as they say to "death by a thousand cuts" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,299 [VCRUZ] Xlap Members 4,049 posts 9,180 battles Report post #17 Posted February 29, 2020 Well, CV gameplay is pretty much PVE. Cv's are "fighting" against AA, which is a automatic system. Other ships have no skill based counter against cv's. Giving CVs a New game mode where they fight bots wouldnt make any difference for them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,029 [IXM] Vector03 Members 1,060 posts Report post #18 Posted February 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Xlap said: Well, CV gameplay is pretty much PVE. Cv's are "fighting" against AA, which is a automatic system. Other ships have no skill based counter against cv's. Giving CVs a New game mode where they fight bots wouldnt make any difference for them. It would make a difference for me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
644 [NATO] hipcanuck Beta Testers 2,222 posts 7,606 battles Report post #19 Posted February 29, 2020 I wonder what the current batch of CV criers would do if the old CV's were brought back, where T10 Hak could dev strike a full hp tier 8 BB 2 minutes into the game and not lose a single aircraft, or a Ryujo could run 3 TB squads and get 150k attack without much effort. WG has made CV's hard to kill by another CV because they know the good CV drivers will immediately target the opponent CV. Pre 8.0 it was a great tactic for a Kaga driver 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,029 [IXM] Vector03 Members 1,060 posts Report post #20 Posted February 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, hipcanuck said: I wonder what the current batch of CV criers would do if the old CV's were brought back, where T10 Hak could dev strike a full hp tier 8 BB 2 minutes into the game and not lose a single aircraft, or a Ryujo could run 3 TB squads and get 150k attack without much effort. WG has made CV's hard to kill by another CV because they know the good CV drivers will immediately target the opponent CV. Pre 8.0 it was a great tactic for a Kaga driver I'd enjoy the fact that they actually take skill and would be just as scarce as they were before for that reason. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
392 [-N-] MaxMcKay Alpha Tester 823 posts Report post #21 Posted February 29, 2020 4 hours ago, LaBombarde said: Many of you may remember when your Mom would tell you; "Let your Little Sister play!"; and how it ruined whatever you may be trying to enjoy. That's the CV problem we have. 2 CV's vs 2 CV's is usually how that ends. So 4 guys get to sit back and sucker punch and last the entire battle and use the lame excuse of.. NO DUDE,, I LOSE PLANES! I LOSE PLANES DUDE! .. lol, Whatever helps you sleep. We all know CV's are broken. They don't attack each other until the end of the battle. I have a solution. Give the CV's their own lobby, where 4 guys can sink bots and then finally fight each other and leave us alone. Another day another solution that targets only one ship type. I'd like it if DD's got their own lobby as well. So tired of stealth launching torps because I some how can't see what's right in front of me. Yet when people say something about it, it's Oh no I might get hurt if you change things. I'm sure the DD's as part of task force taffy really enjoyed their experience using that skill against that IJN task force. I mean it wasn't the CV's that were fighting with them that finally made the IJN task force turn around as well. We know DD's are broken so they should only be able to sink other DD's with torps and only able to shoot secondaries on all other ships. You do start to see the foolishness of this when it's applied to any other ship type. The sheer amount of ignoring every other ships advantages is quite astounding to me. Ah yes and oh look it's the same folks backing anything that harms another style of play because they don't like it. Stunning and brave here folks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
392 [-N-] MaxMcKay Alpha Tester 823 posts Report post #22 Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: CVs do get their own mode of play. Co-op Operations Random Ranked ! We don't get CB's which I would figure would make most of the anti-cv folks happy! They have their wish and have an entire game type that ignores cv's and has better rewards then most anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
983 [WOLFC] Anonymous50 Members 2,170 posts 10,905 battles Report post #23 Posted February 29, 2020 CV whine - check Use of appropriated imagery without approval of artist - check On ignore this guy goes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
584 Usedcarjock Members 1,268 posts 9,896 battles Report post #24 Posted February 29, 2020 I really hope we get a megathread for this. There are multiple cv threads asking similar questions answered keeping different topics from view. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,441 [SALVO] eviltane Members 2,681 posts 6,790 battles Report post #25 Posted February 29, 2020 5 hours ago, LaBombarde said: Many of you may remember when your Mom would tell you; "Let your Little Sister play!"; and how it ruined whatever you may be trying to enjoy. That's the CV problem we have. 2 CV's vs 2 CV's is usually how that ends. So 4 guys get to sit back and sucker punch and last the entire battle and use the lame excuse of.. NO DUDE,, I LOSE PLANES! I LOSE PLANES DUDE! .. lol, Whatever helps you sleep. We all know CV's are broken. They don't attack each other until the end of the battle. I have a solution. Give the CV's their own lobby, where 4 guys can sink bots and then finally fight each other and leave us alone. Best analogy to date. Bravo sir. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites