1,375 [R-F] Brhinosaurus Members 1,787 posts 10,858 battles Report post #1 Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Hey everybody, would you like another forum thread whining about the inequalities of ranked play? No? What if this one comes with prizes? Now we're talking! Anyhow, ranked has always been a super frustrating experience for me. The only type of ship I'm really good at are torpedo focused destroyers... but to be fair, I am pretty good at those, at least if my random stats mean anything. I can generally catch up to the big boys in the Rank 5-2 league, but then it's a brick wall. I just can't seem to influence a battle well enough to win more than half the time, and the mechanism that's supposed to award the persistent players - the star-saving-loss - seems nearly unobtainable for your friendly torpedo pushing, cap securing, enemy-spotting destroyer. Frankly ranking out this way feels impossible. So I'm going to give everyone a chance to prove me wrong! Rules: To win my contest, provide proof of the following: 1. Hit Rank 1 in Season 15 of ranked play (that's now!) 2. Have a minimum of 80% of your matches in the following ships: Shimakaze, Gearing, Somers, Grozovoi, Z-52, Daring, Yueyang. That's all the DDs except the gunboat minicruisers. 3. Play on the North American server. I dunno how the meta is on any of the other servers, so we'll stick with this one. Proof shall consist of un-hidden stats so I can verify your achievement through wows-numbers.com. In-game screenshots may be used for initial claims pending verification. Prizes: The first person to provide a verifiable claim shall receive 2000 dubloons The next two people to provide verifiable claims shall each receive 1000 dubloons The next three people to provide verifiable claims shall each receive 500 dubloons. Good luck! Edited February 29, 2020 by Brhinosaurus 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,375 [R-F] Brhinosaurus Members 1,787 posts 10,858 battles Report post #2 Posted February 28, 2020 Update: some questions have been raised about Daring being on the approved list. I can see the arguement either way but I'm going to leave it as-is. If all the prizes are claimed by Daring users I'll offer additional prizes to later finishers who don't use it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
386 [SIM] LadyJess Members 1,668 posts Report post #3 Posted February 28, 2020 This will be very interesting. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325 Sou1forge Members 663 posts 5,969 battles Report post #4 Posted February 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, Brhinosaurus said: Hey everybody, would you like another forum thread whining about the inequalities of ranked play? No? What if this one comes with prizes? Now we're talking! Anyhow, ranked has always been a super frustrating experience for me. The only type of ship I'm really good at are torpedo focused destroyers... but to be fair, I am pretty good at those, at least if my random stats mean anything. I can generally catch up to the big boys in the Rank 5-2 league, but then it's a brick wall. I just can't seem to influence a battle well enough to win more than half the time, and the mechanism that's supposed to award the persistent players - the star-saving-loss - seems nearly unobtainable for your friendly torpedo pushing, cap securing, enemy-spotting destroyer. Frankly ranking out this way feels impossible. So I'm going to give everyone a chance to prove me wrong! Rules: To win my contest, provide proof of the following: 1. Hit Rank 1 in Season 15 of ranked play (that's now!) 2. Have a minimum of 80% of your matches in the following ships: Shimakaze, Gearing, Somers, Grozovoi, Z-52, Daring, Yueyang. That's all the DDs except the gunboat minicruisers. Proof shall consist of un-hidden stats so I can verify your achievement through wows-numbers.com. In-game screenshots may be used for initial claims pending verification. Prizes: The first person to provide a verifiable claim shall receive 2000 dubloons The next two people to provide verifiable claims shall each receive 1000 dubloons The next three people to provide verifiable claims shall each receive 500 dubloons. Good luck! Daring and Groz shouldn’t be on that list. Groz is a spammy boy, and Daring is a knife fighter. Neither of them should be getting a majority of their damage from torpedoes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,826 [PVE] Asym_KS Members 4,805 posts 21,154 battles Report post #5 Posted February 28, 2020 Ah, can't even win a game let alone ranking out??? And, I like the shimmy and I seriously doubt I could ever, in this lifetime get to rank 1........ Radar, planes and people whom simply don't care make even trying non-value-added ! A nice thing you do but, only applies to the 5 percenters.... Us normal folk, need no apply !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,762 Pura__Vida Members 6,900 posts 21,408 battles Report post #6 Posted February 28, 2020 Just played a game in my Shima against 2 Moskvas, 2 Des Moines and a Daring. We had one Salem and three Smolensks . Every time any of us smoked up or spotted them we all got radared. I worked my [edited]off just to stay alive and land a few torps. To much work for the 2,000 Dubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,772 TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,184 posts 11,768 battles Report post #7 Posted February 28, 2020 What do I get if I prove that I can't win at all with a torp bote? But, seriously, good luck to anyone trying this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
437 [LZ1] murder_0ne Members 297 posts 6,360 battles Report post #8 Posted February 28, 2020 47 minutes ago, Sou1forge said: Daring and Groz shouldn’t be on that list. Groz is a spammy boy, and Daring is a knife fighter. Neither of them should be getting a majority of their damage from torpedoes. I'm using Daring exclusively and most of my damage is from torps. And I'm sinking big ships as well as DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #9 Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Brhinosaurus said: Hey everybody, would you like another forum thread whining about the inequalities of ranked play? No? What if this one comes with prizes? Now we're talking! ... Prizes: The first person to provide a verifiable claim shall receive 2000 dubloons The next two people to provide verifiable claims shall each receive 1000 dubloons The next three people to provide verifiable claims shall each receive 500 dubloons. Good luck! May I suggest additionally to first prize: - handkerchief with words: No CV, No cry and image of Bob Marley in flight uniform - signed by WG tour guide map of city of Smolensk aka Capital of Salt State. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,375 [R-F] Brhinosaurus Members 1,787 posts 10,858 battles Report post #10 Posted February 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, Sou1forge said: Daring and Groz shouldn’t be on that list. Groz is a spammy boy, and Daring is a knife fighter. Neither of them should be getting a majority of their damage from torpedoes. I understand where you're coming from. Certainly there's a spectrum from "torpedo focused" to "gun focused" and also from "concealment based" to "speed based". I'd put Grozovoi and Daring a lot closer to the true torpedo boats than I would group them with Kleber and Khab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325 Sou1forge Members 663 posts 5,969 battles Report post #11 Posted February 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, murder_0ne said: I'm using Daring exclusively and most of my damage is from torps. And I'm sinking big ships as well as DDs. Then I guess your a far better torpedo master than I. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,151 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,465 posts 13,645 battles Report post #12 Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) I applaud your contest. I'll rank out using these DDs because I find them useful, and I like what some might consider a challenge. I have been feeling a new LU Gearing build ATM. Edited February 29, 2020 by Destroyer_KuroshioKai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,211 [PEED2] Hyyena Beta Testers 4,968 posts 15,146 battles Report post #13 Posted February 29, 2020 Thats one interessing way to make plp play dds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,169 [SBS] Slimeball91 Members 6,126 posts Report post #14 Posted February 29, 2020 Cool contest. I suspect the super unicum DD players will rank out just as fast as they always do. It will be interesting to see how things play out. The last T10 ranked CVs were popular the first week then dropped off fast. At that point DDs and cruisers seemed to be the preferred meta. @Brhinosaurus You might want to specify if this is limited to NA, or open to all servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,790 [RKLES] dEsTurbed1 [RKLES] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,360 posts 22,158 battles Report post #15 Posted February 29, 2020 Wait, what!?! Grozovoi and Gearing are torp boats.... Dang, that's what I'm doing wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325 Sou1forge Members 663 posts 5,969 battles Report post #16 Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, dEsTurbed1 said: Wait, what!?! Grozovoi and Gearing are torp boats.... Dang, that's what I'm doing wrong. To be fair Gearing at least can run the Fletcher torps and then go for LU to pretend it’s a Shima (even though legendary upgrade makes torp reload slower I think). Groz though... I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,375 [R-F] Brhinosaurus Members 1,787 posts 10,858 battles Report post #17 Posted February 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Slimeball91 said: You might want to specify if this is limited to NA, or open to all servers. Good call, I have edited that in. 3 minutes ago, dEsTurbed1 said: Wait, what!?! Grozovoi and Gearing are torp boats.... Dang, that's what I'm doing wrong. So, so far people have objected to Daring, Grozovoi, and Gearing. Our list of torp boats runs thin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 IronHyde_1 Members 16 posts 14,395 battles Report post #18 Posted February 29, 2020 Hey even better yet, have a category of ALL the AP AG spamming cruisers, A. how long they sit in smoke and behind islands, B. how many shots in 1 game they fired, C. how many actually hit, D. Rename this seasons Ranker Tier 10 season, World of Ranked Cruiser fire spamming, no wonder I don't so many BBs playing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,169 [SBS] Slimeball91 Members 6,126 posts Report post #19 Posted February 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brhinosaurus said: So, so far people have objected to Daring, Grozovoi, and Gearing. Our list of torp boats runs thin! Maybe reword the contest name, stealth DDs, non-gun boats DDs or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
420 [AAA] Lt_Newcastle Members 447 posts 16,323 battles Report post #20 Posted February 29, 2020 Kudos to you OP for making such a generous offer. The issue with DD play in ranked is exactly what you said as well as how it's so difficult to save a star. If you don't save stars your climb up gets long. Trying to save a star in a DD with Smolensk, Venezia, BBs in these matches will be extremely difficult. I was lucky in the past to save stars about 5% of the time in losses in exclusively DD play. Playing DD only in ranked is asking for max pain. WG could step up at any time and...oh who am I kidding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
32 robotdaddy Members 106 posts 12,043 battles Report post #21 Posted March 2, 2020 I know that YY and Shima can go the distance. Between those two ships, have won 21 of 26 games. Both ships have excellent qualities for this season - fast, stealthy, maneuverable, and hard-hitting torps that extend past radar range. The main differences are that YY has workable AA and is playable against CVs (even if it means using its extra smokes) and Shima can torp DDs. Whether I have the staying power to get to rank 1 is a different question. Sitting at rank 6, but its just getting monotonous... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,391 [INTEL] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 37,716 battles Report post #22 Posted March 2, 2020 Great challenge. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
392 kagero__ Members 443 posts 451 battles Report post #23 Posted March 2, 2020 The only DD that should be on the list is the only real DD in the game: F3 Shima running torp acceleration. Of course, that might explain why I have zero karma...I can’t keep these stupid threads straight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,375 [R-F] Brhinosaurus Members 1,787 posts 10,858 battles Report post #24 Posted March 2, 2020 I've got about a 65% win rate so far running Shima and Somers. I think a big part of that has been matchmaker being overly kind to me though... which means a reversion to the mean is coming and it's going to suuuuck. 10 hours ago, robotdaddy said: Whether I have the staying power to get to rank 1 is a different question. Sitting at rank 6, but its just getting monotonous... I've always found getting to R5 to be reasonably doable, but then progressing from there is brutal. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,571 [WOLF2] Commander_367 Members 4,985 posts 20,815 battles Report post #25 Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) On 2/28/2020 at 3:23 PM, Brhinosaurus said: Update: some questions have been raised about Daring being on the approved list. I can see the arguement either way but I'm going to leave it as-is. If all the prizes are claimed by Daring users I'll offer additional prizes to later finishers who don't use it. You need to put a cap on the number of games required, otherwise anyone could do it given enough attempts … 200 or less would be reasonable Edited March 2, 2020 by Commander_367 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
