I Still Find It Strange

[shadowsrmine]

Kutuzov was deemed Too Strong because she had smoke,HE and RoF  and still claim Smolensk is fine

[DuckyShot]

3 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

Kutuzov was deemed Too Strong because she had smoke,HE and RoF  and still claim Smolensk is fine

Smolensk has smaller caliber guns, so less pen, less range and is 2 tiers higher. 

[Tachnechdorus]

14 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

Kutuzov was deemed Too Strong because she had smoke,HE and RoF  and still claim Smolensk is fine

That's sure is some joke alright ! ! ! 

[shadowsrmine]

15 minutes ago, Ducky_shot said:

Smolensk has smaller caliber guns, so less pen, less range and is 2 tiers higher. 

Less Range since when?!?!?!! I've seen several posts telling how to set her up with up to 18-19  kilometers and seen them shoot that far out as well!!!

[Navalpride33]

20 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

Kutuzov was deemed Too Strong because she had smoke,HE and RoF  and still claim Smolensk is fine

That was before the BB enhancements of 2017-2020..

Returning back to reality, the KUTU is compared to the HIV before the nerf at tier 8...

The nerf to the firing in smoke range... Really killed the KUTU for medium range, Long range the ballistics is good... Close range is the death zone, even OP DDs can citadel her.

In summery, in good hands she is still a fun ship... Overall power creep has made it a meh meh ship restricted to CO-op..

[shadowsrmine]

13 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

That was before the BB enhancements of 2017-2020..

Returning back to reality, the KUTU is compared to the HIV before the nerf at tier 8...

The nerf to the firing in smoke range... Really killed the KUTU for medium range, Long range the ballistics is good... Close range is the death zone, even OP DDs can citadel her.

In summery, in good hands she is still a fun ship... Overall power creep has made it a meh meh ship restricted to CO-op..

So how come she's still restricted to Super Container and Loot Box Purchase Only?

[Navalpride33]

4 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

So how come she's still restricted to Super Container and Loot Box Purchase Only?

WG politics... I am not on the inside... So as far as I know, its G5 classified... Its under NDA/embargo restrictions...

[MidnightPhoenix07]

5 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

So how come she's still restricted to Super Container and Loot Box Purchase Only?

Because that way people have to buy more loot crates if they want to get her?

[Gaelic_knight]

But isn’t the T8 pan Asian cruiser irian a clone of the ship without smoke 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

IMO Kutuzov has a far larger bit of influence on the game by virtue of being in Tier VIII with her unique set of gimmicks that tier.

Don't get me wrong, Smolensk in Tier X is a monster, but she is strictly seeing nothing but the fiercest ships in the game, High Tier VIII-X.

 

Kutuzov is a Tier VIII and this thing can beat up on Tier VI & VII BBs that can't move to save their lives.  Tier VIII and lower Cruisers don't have Repair Party as a standard feature, so all those long ranged RU 152mm shells flying from Kutuzov are telling. 

Myoko is nice.

Helena is awesome.

Etc.

But every bit of chip damage Kutuzov is doing from long range is permanent in Non-Repair Party capable Cruisers.

Not to mention the favorable RU 152mm shell flight characteristics are still nasty to DDs, even fast sailing gunboat DDs, because RU Cruisers guns got low arcs and high velocities throughout flight.

 

And at High Tier, Cruisers need the long range capability to survive in that dangerous arena, and Kutuzov will still fit right in with the High Tier Meta.

 

Another thing with the IFHE / Armor changes is that Kutuzov should be getting an armor buff as a Tier VIII CL to make her even more annoying.

[JAPridemore]

2 hours ago, shadowsrmine said:

Less Range since when?!?!?!! I've seen several posts telling how to set her up with up to 18-19  kilometers and seen them shoot that far out as well!!!

Yep, with the range module the Smolensk becomes AT&T, it reaches out and touches someone. Now it is still fragile as heck and melts under CA+ HE and CL- AP.

 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

32 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

Yep, with the range module the Smolensk becomes AT&T, it reaches out and touches someone. Now it is still fragile as heck and melts under CA+ HE and CL- AP.

 

AFT also affects Smolensk's range because it meets the 139mm or smaller requirement for the trait.

Stock 13.8km gun range, which is very short.  But the build can drastically change that.

With GFCS2 in Slot 6 upgrade her range increases to 16km.

With GFCS2 upgrade and AFT it goes to 19.2km if you so desire.  Not sure how common this last route is taken, I'm imagining getting Smolensk to 16km is sufficient for most guys.

 

I still think Smolensk is still going to be a handful to deal with after the changes.  They just got to be more careful.  The good Smolensk players won't be making the dumb mistakes that will get them blasted.

Also, IIRC, when both Colbert and Smolensk were still WiP ships, they used to have better stock gun ranges, then that got reduced because WG realized AFT buffs that range, in addition to the standard GFCS2 upgrade access.

2 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

AFT also affects Smolensk's range because it meets the 139mm or smaller requirement for the trait.

Stock 13.8km gun range, which is very short.  But the build can drastically change that.

With GFCS2 in Slot 6 upgrade her range increases to 16km.

With GFCS2 upgrade and AFT it goes to 19.2km if you so desire.

 

I still think Smolensk is still going to be a handful to deal with after the changes.  They just got to be more careful.  The good Smolensk players won't be making the dumb mistakes that will get them blasted.

Also, IIRC, when both Colbert and Smolensk were still WiP ships, they used to have better stock gun ranges, then that got reduced because WG realized AFT buffs that range, in addition to the standard GFCS2 upgrade access.

Forgot to mention AFT but all that does is make the reaching out go even farther. Both ships are holy heck in the hands of a top player but the performance falls off faster than it did in the RTS CV days as the skill level goes down.