Ranked Battles

[shaneduce]

Ranked battles, sigh 40% win rate out of 180 battles and stuck at rank 12. I have gotten feed up with ***** team's that don't work together. The only battles I was on the winning team was the ones that we worked together. Yes i'm salty AF losing over 6 mill credits just this session alone.

Here is my list of the way I think ranked battles would be better.

1. No premium ships.

2. No ships that can be purchased with coal, steel, DB., free XP. or cash.

3. Require players to complete a training course. That will punish a player hard for not working as a team like Op's do.

4. Only let ships from the Tech Tree that you research and played no less than 100 battles in Random or Op's.

5. Require 1,000 battles in random play.

6. Require 40%+ win rating. 

Any player can do this. 

I expect bad players in random. Even players that use real money to free XP them self to a T10 ships.

This is just my option, you can agree or disagree that up to you. 

[LadyAnesjka]

Well you do know, do not have to take part in rank.

This being mention, when Rank not have any level that cannot be revoked, is when people have problem moving up.

You do 180 match in 2 day ? Maybe take small break, is going on for entire month, is no rush.

[desmo_2]

6 minutes ago, shaneduce said:

This is just my option, you can agree or disagree that up to you. 

Whew!  Thanks for that permission!

[Navalpride33]

Or you dont have to partake in Rank...

I'll repeat this in this thread and in many other threads... My hats off to those who partake in Rank, they can withstand misery better then I can...

There is no way, no way, I would be able to rank out... I play for fun, my GF fills me all the misery I can handle... I dont need any more from the game...

Also, just because you dont like the Hamburger... Ya can't deconstruct and constructed back to how you like it... For that, take the job with the devils...

Other then that, Rank is what it is.. We play it until our limit is met and get out... For me, not this season... Tier 10 is not a proportionate tier for even Random game play. 

[tfcas119]

1 hour ago, shaneduce said:

1. No premium ships.

only T1 and 10 have no premium ships

1 hour ago, shaneduce said:

. No ships that can be purchased with coal, steel, DB., free XP. or cash.

so you get steel only in game modes like ranked and you want to ban those ships from being used in that mode?

1 hour ago, shaneduce said:

3. Require players to complete a training course. That will punish a player hard for not working as a team like Op's do. 

4. Only let ships from the Tech Tree that you research and played no less than 100 battles in Random or Op's.

5. Require 1,000 battles in random play.

Never gonna happen because people are idiots and far too harsh perquisites

1 hour ago, shaneduce said:

6. Require 40%+ win rating. 

no. a 40% WR player is a massive detriment to a team, even compared to a 48% player (BTW, 48% is around the average player WR) and the difference between average and 60% unicums is massive. 

WG will never implement these requirements for ranked, either deal with it or don't play.

P.S.: I find it very odd someone is complaining about ranked teammates being bad while he is a part of the 40% WRs constantly losing games for other people. Explains perfectly how you can do 180 games and still be ranked 12

[Capt_Ahab1776]

1 hour ago, tfcas119 said:

only T1 and 10 have no premium ships

Smolensk

Salem

Colbert

Somers

Ohio

Soon to be Moskva

[ExploratorOne]

29 minutes ago, Capt_Ahab1776 said:

Smolensk

Salem

Colbert

Somers

Ohio

Soon to be Moskva

Not one of those is a Premium ship.  You cannot buy them for cash, only blood and sweat.  They are all Freemiums that are purchased with Coal or Steel (or RP) quite a bit of Coal or Steel.  All of them take a fair amount of games, some only in "competitive" modes.

[MnemonScarlet]

2 hours ago, shaneduce said:

4. Only let ships from the Tech Tree that you research and played no less than 100 battles in Random or Op's.

5. Require 1,000 battles in random play.

6. Require 40%+ win rating.  

Number of battles means nothing to a lot of the worst players, it shouldn't even be a factor. And 40%+ is not high enough if you want to do exclusion, you need to get to at least 46% or 47% to catch most players who are very crippling to a team on average. WG would never get behind this.

2 hours ago, shaneduce said:

2. No ships that can be purchased with coal, steel, DB., free XP. or cash.

You can freexp to tech tree ships further up too. So people can pay their way up still with just any ship.

[Jolly_Rodgered]

3 hours ago, shaneduce said:

Here is my list of the way I think ranked battles would be better.

1. No premium ships.

2. No ships that can be purchased with coal, steel, DB., free XP. or cash.

3. Require players to complete a training course. That will punish a player hard for not working as a team like Op's do.

4. Only let ships from the Tech Tree that you research and played no less than 100 battles in Random or Op's.

5. Require 1,000 battles in random play.

6. Require 40%+ win rating. 

 

First, sorry you're having such a rough go of it to start this latest ranked season. God bless you for having the fortitude to play 180 games in two days. I don't even know how that's possible to be quite honest. But, if you've only gotten to rank 12 then it's time for a break. While you're on your break let's discuss some of your bullet points. 

1. No premium ships. Objectively this makes little sense since we're playing tier 10. Sure, you'll see quite a bit of coal and XP ships but premium, nope. Also, a lot of the tech tree ships are many times just as good or better then the special ships anyway.

2. No ships that can be purchased with coal, steel, DB., free XP. or cash. Then why spend coal, steel, DB, XP or cash to get them if not to play them in ranked? I get the fact that you think those ships are dominant but good players can make any ship work and bad players can't. The ship can play a part to be sure but the captain is the most important element. 

3). Require players to complete a training course. Uh, no. This will never happen so let's move on.

4). Only let ships from the Tech Tree that you research and played no less than 100 battles in Random or Op's.  I see your point but 100 battles is too much and as far as I know operations aren't tracked. I get what you're saying but my experience in ranked generally isn't that people don't know their ship, but rather they don't know what to do or where to go. 

5). Require 1,000 battles in random play. What if people don't want to play randoms? I know plenty of co-op people that enjoy diving into ranked while staying away from random play. 

6). Require 40%+ win rating.  I would instead argue that lower win rate players end up on both teams so it is what it is. Want better team play? Play clan battles. Ranked is just smaller random matches. 

Finally, my win rate isn't great but I always try to play to my ship's strength. I set my goal to get to rank 10 in regular ranked and rank 1 in sprint; both attainable even with my poor skill set. It sounds like you were playing angry so maybe take a break and stop worrying about your team. Just concentrate on doing good yourself first and see if that helps. Either way, good luck. 

[Capt_Ahab1776]

1 hour ago, ExploratorOne said:

Not one of those is a Premium ship.

I was just going by what World of Warships Wiki listed them as. Premiums.

[Stew_Pedastle]

17 hours ago, shaneduce said:

 

6. Require 40%+ win rating. 

 

Lets change that win rating to 45% and maybe even add a PR requirement of 500 ….  

Good luck op …….

[shaneduce]

I have a different idea.

How about if they pick a nation, and a Tier. I think it would level the playing field. I think then u see skill come be a factor more than money or bought ships. 

Or turn them into a Op style battle. Like a escort/defend a convoy. or Defend/attack a base.

At a set tier, maybe change it up weekly.

[Taichunger]

On 2/28/2020 at 8:56 AM, shaneduce said:

Ranked battles, sigh 40% win rate out of 180 battles and stuck at rank 12. I have gotten feed up with ***** team's that don't work together. The only battles I was on the winning team was the ones that we worked together. Yes i'm salty AF losing over 6 mill credits just this session alone.

 

Shane, go check your stats against server averages. It seems that you are not performing at the level you must in order to excel in Ranked. You might think about stopping Ranked for a couple of seasons until you can double your average damage across the board in your T10 ships. Right now all you are going to experience is loss and frustration until you massively improve.

One way you could improve is to play the low tier IJN DDs that you skipped, a couple hundred games. Try playing 200-300 games in Umikaze until you can meaningfully affect the flow of the match. IJN DDs will teach you more about positioning and map reading than any other, in my view.

[JdeMolay]

On 2/28/2020 at 12:07 PM, U_NaCi_GirlK9 said:

Lets change that win rating to 45% and maybe even add a PR requirement of 500 ….  

Good luck op …….

This, lol

[legozer]

33 minutes ago, Taichunger said:

Shane, go check your stats against server averages. It seems that you are not performing at the level you must in order to excel in Ranked. You might think about stopping Ranked for a couple of seasons until you can double your average damage across the board in your T10 ships. Right now all you are going to experience is loss and frustration until you massively improve.

One way you could improve is to play the low tier IJN DDs that you skipped, a couple hundred games. Try playing 200-300 games in Umikaze until you can meaningfully affect the flow of the match. IJN DDs will teach you more about positioning and map reading than any other, in my view.

This is excellent advice and you'd be a fool to ignore it.

[Klaus_Conqueror]

more likely your are among those who should be banned from ranked according to your criterion 

[JaysUsedBoatParts]

On 2/27/2020 at 7:56 PM, shaneduce said:

Ranked battles, sigh 40% win rate out of 180 battles and stuck at rank 12. I have gotten feed up with ***** team's that don't work together. The only battles I was on the winning team was the ones that we worked together. Yes i'm salty AF losing over 6 mill credits just this session alone.

Here is my list of the way I think ranked battles would be better.

1. No premium ships.

2. No ships that can be purchased with coal, steel, DB., free XP. or cash.

3. Require players to complete a training course. That will punish a player hard for not working as a team like Op's do.

4. Only let ships from the Tech Tree that you research and played no less than 100 battles in Random or Op's.

5. Require 1,000 battles in random play.

6. Require 40%+ win rating. 

Any player can do this. 

I expect bad players in random. Even players that use real money to free XP them self to a T10 ships.

This is just my option, you can agree or disagree that up to you. 

Dude thats terrible. Im sorry for your loss. Next time before you start ranked, thread the forum with your plan to rank out. They will lead you in the right direction  as long as your not CV

[admiralsexybeast]

On 2/27/2020 at 7:56 PM, shaneduce said:

Ranked battles, sigh 40% win rate out of 180 battles and stuck at rank 12. I have gotten feed up with ***** team's that don't work together. The only battles I was on the winning team was the ones that we worked together. Yes i'm salty AF losing over 6 mill credits just this session alone.

Here is my list of the way I think ranked battles would be better.

1. No premium ships.

2. No ships that can be purchased with coal, steel, DB., free XP. or cash.

3. Require players to complete a training course. That will punish a player hard for not working as a team like Op's do.

4. Only let ships from the Tech Tree that you research and played no less than 100 battles in Random or Op's.

5. Require 1,000 battles in random play.

6. Require 40%+ win rating. 

Any player can do this. 

I expect bad players in random. Even players that use real money to free XP them self to a T10 ships.

This is just my option, you can agree or disagree that up to you. 

I hate ranked because it feels more like a job than a game. In my case, I play in order to earn the remaining amount of steel I need for a ship that I didn't get playing CBs. Being only 876 steel short of Stalingrad right now is a huge motivator to keep on grinding. TBH, the steel ships really don't make the huge difference you seem to think they do. Even steel ships are only going to be as good as the people playing them and most people who own them are at least green stats or higher, meaning they are either decent or very good. If you think if you suddenly got, say the Stalingrad, and think you're just going to cruise right up the middle and devstrike everything you shoot at and take little or no damage in return, then you are very sadly mistaken. She can be focused down by a team VERY quickly! I have the Bourgogne, and she's very powerful, but she is also pretty fragile "by BB standards," and cant take focus fire or HE spam hardly at all, so you really have to play smart and know what you're doing to make her effective. Not trying to give a lecture but again, whether a ship is a tech tree, premium, coal, or steel ship, its still only going to perform as good as the person controlling it!

[admiralsexybeast]

On 2/27/2020 at 11:24 PM, Jolly_Rodgered said:

steel

People really get upset over steel ships. I used to think the same way he did, but once I finally got my 1st tier 10 steel ship, I learned quickly that while powerful, they DO NOT have magical abilities or OP characteristics that make them an I win button. Secondly, if you've earned it, you have the right to play it, in any game mode. For players in my skill range, steel is a delicacy, and it takes the better part of a year for me to earn enough just to get 1 t10 "with a coupon." It would just be plain wrong to deny people who work hard for these ships the ability to play them in any game mode they want.

[mumphred]

On 2/27/2020 at 4:56 PM, shaneduce said:

Ranked battles, sigh 40% win rate out of 180 battles and stuck at rank 12. I have gotten feed up with ***** team's that don't work together. The only battles I was on the winning team was the ones that we worked together. Yes i'm salty AF

6. Require 40%+ win rating. 

 

This is ironic considering your own stats.  Shima= 25% WR, Gearing =39%WR, Puerto Rico 39%WR,   The problem is not your team mates.