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Narai DDs

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Greetings, I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on good DDs for Narai. I normally play cruisers in ops and I never paid attention to which DDs do better than others.

I have Sims and Leningrad but I am thinking about getting Blyskwica (for coal). I also have Minsk but I don't like the idea of 4km torps in an operation. On paper Blyskwica, Leningrad, and many tech tree DDs look roughly equivalent.

What DDs do you all prefer for Narai (if any)?

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I find any good torp boat, esp Leningrad works well. Main mission for it is to get Missouri.

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In Narai (assuming an organized farming division instead of a random team), DDs have two main jobs - drop torps on the Iron Duke if you have range and shove a full load of torps into Missouri from point blank range, and then just general torping and gunning down low HP ships in the harbor. For most of the times you’ll be using them, 4km torps aren’t bad, it just means you’ll need to get closer to Iron Duke to torp it if you need to do so. You ideally want ships with good torpedoes and good guns, so a dedicated torp boat like Akatsuki might not be as strong a choice, although if you can rely on your team’s cruisers and battleships to kill ships quickly it’s better than something that’s completely gun focused with no usable torp role. If you’re looking to farm, Sims is definitely a good choice because of the special economic boosts it gets, and the 7km torps are more than enough for what you’d need them for. However, if you’re going for a random team and really want to bring a DD (which I wouldn’t necessarily recommend since you’ll often see random teams with lots of DDs and cruisers and not enough battleships), take whatever your best performing gunboat or hybrid focused DD is, since you’re going to need to do both torping and gunning.

That being said, if you’re looking to farm Narai, you don’t even need a DD. A cruiser each for the transports and carrier, and two battleships and possibly one other ship (either a tankier cruiser, another battleship, or destroyer) for the ships in the middle. If you bring a battleship like Gneisenau or Scharnhorst that has torps the main job for a DD is pretty much covered by that battleship.

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I want one of the bot Nicholas, because those things are obviously disguised Fletchers, what with their accuracy and the damage they do.

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I've seen guys in Hoperations use all kinds of DDs for Narai.  The one common thing they had was respectable torpedo power to put down BBs, namely Missouri so that it doesn't do bad things to player ships and the convoy they're escorting.

Leningrad

Vaquelin

Akatsuki

Shiratsuyu

Whatever.  Either the torps hit hard or you drop so many torps that you put the Missouri down in one go.

Sims with her awful torpedo capability just sucks balls for Narai.

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1 hour ago, MasterDiggs said:

What DDs do you all prefer for Narai (if any)?

As long as it doesn't have horrible guns it will work. Leningrad is quite perfect for the job. 

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1 hour ago, MasterDiggs said:

What DDs do you all prefer for Narai (if any)?

Anything with good guns and decent torps. I wouldn’t take a dedicated torpedo boat like Shiratsuyu. Being able to drop smoke and either farm or repair in the harbor is also a plus.

I’ve had good results with Mahan, Sims, Jervis, and Blyskawica.

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If you're going to "collect" the ship, do it. I've run Narai in her she's a good little ship. Doesn't Excell at much but she can torp good enough .

She's been negleted by WeeGee hopefully they buff her but don't hold your breath .

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Z-39 is a good sleeper DD for Narai. Enough torp alpha to put down the Missouri, German 150 AP.for all the soft cruiser broadsides, topr racks reload quickly, and 5km hydro(standard T8 German hydro) to spot from smoke.

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Yuudachi

 

Those 15km range torps and reload boosters are just pure memes in Narai.

 

I use the reload booster at start of the game and launch torps at the 1st wave and where Emerald would spawn. 

Then torp the duke

Then make a run for Missouri and use torpedo reload booster again to launch torps into the harbor where the CV and Phoenix would make a run for it.

 

Many times I would force the CV and Phoenix to turn and have them stuck inside the harbor.

 

Just lol

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7 hours ago, Rustyhole said:

Leningrad > Sims > Z-39 

Ghaja > Minsk > Akatsuki   

 

Sims has no alpha in her torpedoes at all.

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On ‎2‎/‎22‎/‎2020 at 1:54 PM, MasterDiggs said:

Greetings, I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on good DDs for Narai. I normally play cruisers in ops and I never paid attention to which DDs do better than others.

I have Sims and Leningrad but I am thinking about getting Blyskwica (for coal). I also have Minsk but I don't like the idea of 4km torps in an operation. On paper Blyskwica, Leningrad, and many tech tree DDs look roughly equivalent.

What DDs do you all prefer for Narai (if any)?

It's always interesting to see what sort or responses other people give before I answer. In terms of destroyers for Narai, there is no question that the absolute best one to use is Leningrad, and for Hoperations it is a requirement to have if you want to run four ship Narai games with us. The things you want to have for a destroyer in Narai is good guns and enough torpedo alpha to take out Iron Duke, and ideally Missouri with all racks you can fire to one side, along with good speed to get around to where you may be needed, and preferably smoke for better survivability. Leningrad is the one that checks all these boxes, and most others fall short in some sort of manner. Just to list out some other destroyers and where they fall short.

Minsk - 4 km torps but can be adjusted to I have a video about it.
Sims and Mahan - Not enough torpedo alpha for Missouri, very mediocre speed, slow shell speed
Maass - mediocre speed, not the greatest shell pen
Blyskawica - not enough torpedo alpha
Vauquelin - not enough torpedo alpha in 2 out of 3 racks you can fire to one side, no smoke
Z-39 - guns have long reload, mediocre speed

Others I didn't list out are Gadjah Mada, Jervis, Shiratsuyu, Akatsuki, Yudachi, Haida, Skane if you want to ask about those.

For a destroyer strategy on how to play one in Narai, you can watch this video I made.

 

I also have a number of destroyer replays on my channel or I put some in the two Narai threads I made here on the forum if you want to watch them.

 

 

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Almost any DD can be made to work IF the player is very good. Potato players should never attempt to bring a DD. For average-good players you will need decent torps but also decent guns and smoke. Vaquelin would be tough for an average player because it lacks smoke so has no way to break contact. Torp boats (Akatsuki) will have trouble with DPM and must be very familiar with the scenario to preposition your ship in the right place to devstrike targets. Easy to waste torps when the target turns, hides behind a wreck, is bow on, or gets sunk before your torps arrive.

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Hmm Gadja Mada works pretty well for me in Narai. Really worth a look imho.

As mentioned by others here the Lenny is also a gud bote for the op.

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On 2/22/2020 at 2:09 PM, alexf24 said:

I find any good torp boat, esp Leningrad works well. Main mission for it is to get Missouri.

Leningrad may be good for Narai but I don't think I have ever heard it referred to as a torp boat.

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58 minutes ago, Sabot_100 said:

Leningrad may be good for Narai but I don't think I have ever heard it referred to as a torp boat.

Correct. I was referring to Narai where the main job of a DD with decent torps is to get Missouri, and if he survives, the BBs in the inner harbor.

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