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3 minutes ago, JackSparrow_665 said:

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What ship is this? Can you get it in game?

This ship already exists in-game in Operation Narai (as transport ships). It's based on the USS Cimarron.

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13 minutes ago, JackSparrow_665 said:

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What ship is this? Can you get it in game?

 

10 minutes ago, henrychenhenry said:

This ship already exists in-game in Operation Narai (as transport ships). It's based on the USS Cimarron.

Better watch out for Cimarron...

...I hear she earned a Kraken in Narai once.

(Calling @AdmiralThunder, I’ve tried to find it several times; do you remember a thread about Cimarron getting a Kraken in Narai?)

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1 hour ago, JackSparrow_665 said:

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What ship is this? Can you get it in game?

Its a liberty ship and no its only for Bots in operations..

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That's a cimarrón the larger of both types of transport ships in the game ..I'd like to have it at any teir just for the lols.

That's if it were available .....WG here's your new April fool's secret battle mode operstion. transports vs subs try to get out of the bay or into it. ...hmmmmm "I'd buy that for a dollar"

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2 hours ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

 

Better watch out for Cimarron...

...I hear she earned a Kraken in Narai once.

(Calling @AdmiralThunder, I’ve tried to find it several times; do you remember a thread about Cimarron getting a Kraken in Narai?)

I've been in a Narai run where 4 players (unwisely) went to do the south transports route.  The only things that shoot there are a Tier V Nicholas and a Fort that gets blown up by everyone close to the beginning.  Because the Fort is taken out so early, that leaves a single Tier V DD against 4 players in Cruisers and Destroyers, all of which are Tier VII ships only.  Of the 4 players, 2 of them died.

:Smile_facepalm:

The south route only needs 1 player down there, a Cruiser or DD.  More than that is a waste.  A Battleship going there is a HUGE waste as it's needed for the middle group, or possibly a fast BB to help up north against the CV, which is IMO the hardest optional route for 5 stars in the Op.

 

So when I saw 2, 3, as many as 4 players in the south route, it's usually a sh*t show.  Guys dying to 1 Tier V bot DD, dying to unarmed transports, or players fighting with each other about killing unarmed transports.

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18 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I've been in a Narai run where 4 players (unwisely) went to do the south transports route.  The only things that shoot there are a Tier V Nicholas and a Fort that gets blown up by everyone close to the beginning.  Because the Fort is taken out so early, that leaves a single Tier V DD against 4 players in Cruisers and Destroyers, all of which are Tier VII ships only.  Of the 4 players, 2 of them died.

:Smile_facepalm:

The south route only needs 1 player down there, a Cruiser or DD.  More than that is a waste.  A Battleship going there is a HUGE waste as it's needed for the middle group, or possibly a fast BB to help up north against the CV, which is IMO the hardest optional route for 5 stars in the Op.

 

So when I saw 2, 3, as many as 4 players in the south route, it's usually a sh*t show.  Guys dying to 1 Tier V bot DD, dying to unarmed transports, or players fighting with each other about killing unarmed transports.

That's a trainwreck of a team. I suppose they all wanted to get that Achievment for sinking five transports and failed utterly.

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1 hour ago, TheOssifrage said:

That's a trainwreck of a team. I suppose they all wanted to get that Achievment for sinking five transports and failed utterly.

There is no in between with Narai.  You either get a team that does it smoothly, 5 stars no problems, or you get the other extreme.  Sad to say, I've seen that happen too many times.  Not saying it happens all the time in Narai, but it is out there and takes place enough times.

 

Really, a bunch of guys do understand that all you need is 1 guy for south transports route.  1 guy for north route to bag the CV and it's 1-2 escorts if he's confident, but sometimes 2 go up there just to be sure.  The rest?  You need muscle for the middle group.

Here's an old one from 2018, during the RTS CV days when we still had aircraft to deal with.  I was real upset after this debacle of an Op took place.

On 8/7/2018 at 12:42 PM, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I lost track how many times we had 3 idiots in the south attacking the enemy transports.  The worst I've seen was 1 CA + 2 BBs against the south transports.  I even had those morons arguing with each other about kill stealing each other's transports.  Here's a good short story from 2 screenshots, both from the same Random PUG in Narai.

 

Early on our Tier VII Hood took the opportunity to ram a Tier V CL.

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He loses a lot of HP from the ram.  He stays stationary and the very first enemy airstrike finds him, sinking him.  This isn't even 5 minutes into the match and we lost 1 of 2 BBs, my Scharnhorst was the last BB for the team.  Hood celebrates the ramming like it's an accomplishment when it's a massive loss for the team.  OH BUT IT GETS BETTER!

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Fiji was our original "south route" ship but a Yorck and Gadjah Mada decide to join.  They're arguing with each other over transport kills.  This left my Scharnhorst and an Atlanta as the only ships to go into the harbor.  Our north route Atlanta dies in the attempt to get the CV.  I don't fault that ATL for that, this is actually the toughest job to do in this Operation.  We didn't even have enough ships in the right locations to cover both transport entrances into the harbor.  This was an absolute sh*t show.

 

This is my life if I solo queue in Operation Narai.

It can actually get worse than that.  Much worse.  Again, this doesn't happen all the time to make it not worth doing Narai.  But man, when the teams are bad, they are spectacularly bad.

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1 hour ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

There is no in between with Narai.  You either get a team that does it smoothly, 5 stars no problems, or you get the other extreme.  Sad to say, I've seen that happen too many times.  Not saying it happens all the time in Narai, but it is out there and takes place enough times.

 

Really, a bunch of guys do understand that all you need is 1 guy for south transports route.  1 guy for north route to bag the CV and it's 1-2 escorts if he's confident, but sometimes 2 go up there just to be sure.  The rest?  You need muscle for the middle group.

Here's an old one from 2018, during the RTS CV days when we still had aircraft to deal with.  I was real upset after this debacle of an Op took place.

It can actually get worse than that.  Much worse.  Again, this doesn't happen all the time to make it not worth doing Narai.  But man, when the teams are bad, they are spectacularly bad.

Oh yeah, when it's bad, it can be as frustrating as randoms.

We had a DD on our team sail South to the transports, only to get picked off and detonated. We had a cruiser intercept the CV, only to be set on fire then finished off by a CV bomb.

Thinking our n

Main force with BBs along can handle the harbour, we sailed in. First BB in gets half his HP wiped because he would not slow down for cruiser help. He is done at that point. In my BB, the cruiser I stayed with sank the most ships, I got a couple. But it was already a lost cause at that point.

On average, you might get 2 other players that know what to do. But that is not enough.

There are days when everyone knows what to do, but extremely rare.

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5 hours ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

 

Better watch out for Cimarron...

...I hear she earned a Kraken in Narai once.

(Calling @AdmiralThunder, I’ve tried to find it several times; do you remember a thread about Cimarron getting a Kraken in Narai?)

Sorry no.

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1 hour ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

There is no in between with Narai.  You either get a team that does it smoothly, 5 stars no problems, or you get the other extreme.  Sad to say, I've seen that happen too many times.  Not saying it happens all the time in Narai, but it is out there and takes place enough times.

 

Really, a bunch of guys do understand that all you need is 1 guy for south transports route.  1 guy for north route to bag the CV and it's 1-2 escorts if he's confident, but sometimes 2 go up there just to be sure.  The rest?  You need muscle for the middle group.

Here's an old one from 2018, during the RTS CV days when we still had aircraft to deal with.  I was real upset after this debacle of an Op took place.

It can actually get worse than that.  Much worse.  Again, this doesn't happen all the time to make it not worth doing Narai.  But man, when the teams are bad, they are spectacularly bad.

Why was the Atlanta doing the Fiji's job in the 1st place?

Any other ship would just be in the Fiji's way in Narai up north.

Wait Wut? The Fiji went after the transports? LOL. What a waste of the ultimate Narai cit machine.

The path up north is 1/2 the fun...taking out the CV & escorts & reigning cit hell in the harbor after stealthing in is just the cherry on top.

Haven't played it since the rework though...no planes huh? Dodging the CV attacks was 1/2 the fun too...bummer.

Even though it seems like it my math isn't off because in the Fiji in Narai there's at least 4 "1/2 the funs"...& sometimes 5 or 6 (although the 6th "1/2 the fun" requires getting the Mo kill while smoked up as opposed to just help whittling it down).

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5 hours ago, Chief_SeaDog said:

If its Russian it can sink the Yamato in this game.

Literally any ship can sink Yamato in this game. Tachibana, Hermelin, hell, one of my old friends used to fail division Umikaze into T10 to sink Yamatos way back before radar or hydro were a thing.

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17 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Why was the Atlanta doing the Fiji's job in the 1st place?

Any other ship would just be in the Fiji's way in Narai up north.

Wait Wut? The Fiji went after the transports? LOL. What a waste of the ultimate Narai cit machine.

The path up north is 1/2 the fun...taking out the CV & escorts & reigning cit hell in the harbor after stealthing in is just the cherry on top.

Haven't played it since the rework though...no planes huh? Dodging the CV attacks was 1/2 the fun too...bummer.

Even though it seems like it my math isn't off because in the Fiji in Narai there's at least 4 "1/2 the funs"...& sometimes 5 or 6 (although the 6th "1/2 the fun" requires getting the Mo kill while smoked up as opposed to just help whittling it down).

There's a lot of questionable stuff that happens if you solo-queue Narai.  We still get a lot of 5, at least 4 star runs despite some weird stuff because it's usually a small group that's competent enough to ensure the 5 star runs happen.  But sometimes it's not enough.

 

I miss the planes in Narai.  For a bunch of ships that's extra rewards.  Atlanta, Lyon, Gneisenau for example can rake in lots of plane kills during those days and help pad the stats.

It's easier now compared to when you last played during the Pre-Rebork days.  Remember how the initial spawn could be 50/50 with a north or south spawn of where the team starts?  It's always south spawn now, it's more predictable.  But people still mess it up.  Lexington is still there, but it no longer launches planes.  It still has the Phoenix escort.  Usually Nicholas is there with the two also, depending on what the team does.  The Ranger no longer spawns with the reinforcing enemy waves in the bay.

 

Personally, when I solo-queue Narai and if I take a Cruiser, I always volunteer and announce I'll take the north route to kill the CV.  Usually I'm the only one doing it, so I get all the kills, damage, credit for myself:  Nicholas, Phoenix, and Lexington... All to myself.  Typically I'll rank out with the highest BaseXP of the team, unless someone gets south transports route all to himself.  If someone else decides to tag a long and help, and it's just 1 other person, I won't say anything.  But I will say something if it's 2 more people coming up north, that's too much strength taken away from the center group.  I don't do the south transports route anymore unless it's a very rare occasion nobody goes that way.  Usually if you go do the transports route, even announce it, people pile in and you are now dividing up the kills and damage between each other.  And you don't get the achievement "Shark among Shrimps" because people are there taking the kills away.

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I did pretty well using KGV / DoY in Narai, but if I pick a cruiser I usually go after the transports (after informing my team). There's always someone who agrees to support the middle yet ends up trying to ram one of the transports instead...

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2 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

There is no in between with Narai.  You either get a team that does it smoothly, 5 stars no problems, or you get the other extreme.  Sad to say, I've seen that happen too many times.  Not saying it happens all the time in Narai, but it is out there and takes place enough times.

 

Really, a bunch of guys do understand that all you need is 1 guy for south transports route.  1 guy for north route to bag the CV and it's 1-2 escorts if he's confident, but sometimes 2 go up there just to be sure.  The rest?  You need muscle for the middle group.

Here's an old one from 2018, during the RTS CV days when we still had aircraft to deal with.  I was real upset after this debacle of an Op took place.

It can actually get worse than that.  Much worse.  Again, this doesn't happen all the time to make it not worth doing Narai.  But man, when the teams are bad, they are spectacularly bad.

And usually you have a Scharnhorst or Gneis at the very back sniping as the cherry on top of a spectacular game of who can die fastest, leading to them either winning it by sheer lack of missing health, or they die almost immediately by sailing broadside for several salvos as soon as attention falls on them.

I swear it feels like people go to ops expecting an easier time than co-op sometimes...

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9 minutes ago, TheOssifrage said:

I did pretty well using KGV / DoY in Narai, but if I pick a cruiser I usually go after the transports (after informing my team). There's always someone who agrees to support the middle yet ends up trying to ram one of the transports instead...

Ugh! I hate that! You call transports at the start of battle, but Mr. Shy decides to be a social butterfly in his own silent way, more or less stripping the transport job of the typically good earnings and jeopardize the op.

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Usually use Belfast, (only other thing I ever 5*’d it in was Nelson, back in the RTS days.)

Don’t trust Fiji and that RN SAP.

Did decently well in Lyon once, going north after the carrier.

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3 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

It can actually get worse than that.  Much worse.  Again, this doesn't happen all the time to make it not worth doing Narai.  But man, when the teams are bad, they are spectacularly bad.

Oh yeah, I've been in one.   3BBs and a cruiser going for transports.  And an AFK cruiser in the match to top it off.

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11 hours ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

 

Better watch out for Cimarron...

...I hear she earned a Kraken in Narai once.

(Calling @AdmiralThunder, I’ve tried to find it several times; do you remember a thread about Cimarron getting a Kraken in Narai?)

I genuinely want to play this in game. It has 4 5-inch guns and several AA guns so I mean.....

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On 2/21/2020 at 1:30 AM, Estimated_Prophet said:

Usually use Belfast, (only other thing I ever 5*’d it in was Nelson, back in the RTS days.)

Don’t trust Fiji and that RN SAP.

Did decently well in Lyon once, going north after the carrier.

Fiji also has the torp option for insuring quick CV kill after taking out the escorts.

It's SAP does rather well on straight lining bots (which they all do eventually...they may make an initial turn but unless a ship w/torps is close enough they pretty much straightline after the initial dodge).

1st attempt at Narai was on PTS before it ever made it live & bots spawned north so I went that way & just naturally found myself in perfect position to deal w/CV & sneak in back door to harbor & take out 2nd CV before trashing all the broadside 2nd CV escorts.

Got 28 cits & pretty much completed 4 of the 5 stars by myself (the team got the transports fortunately).

When it hit the regular server just rinsed & repeated w/24 cits for the easy 5 star victory but was stuck on grinding so rarely got back to it except a couple runs w/the clan right before the rebork.

Haven't had anything but 5 star finishes in Narai (always in Fiji) but again those 1st 2 times are the only times I've soloed it so definitely confirmation bias can be said to be a factor for sure.

On 2/21/2020 at 12:40 AM, HazeGrayUnderway said:

There's a lot of questionable stuff that happens if you solo-queue Narai.  We still get a lot of 5, at least 4 star runs despite some weird stuff because it's usually a small group that's competent enough to ensure the 5 star runs happen.  But sometimes it's not enough.

 

I miss the planes in Narai.  For a bunch of ships that's extra rewards.  Atlanta, Lyon, Gneisenau for example can rake in lots of plane kills during those days and help pad the stats.

It's easier now compared to when you last played during the Pre-Rebork days.  Remember how the initial spawn could be 50/50 with a north or south spawn of where the team starts?  It's always south spawn now, it's more predictable.  But people still mess it up.  Lexington is still there, but it no longer launches planes.  It still has the Phoenix escort.  Usually Nicholas is there with the two also, depending on what the team does.  The Ranger no longer spawns with the reinforcing enemy waves in the bay.

 

Personally, when I solo-queue Narai and if I take a Cruiser, I always volunteer and announce I'll take the north route to kill the CV.  Usually I'm the only one doing it, so I get all the kills, damage, credit for myself:  Nicholas, Phoenix, and Lexington... All to myself.  Typically I'll rank out with the highest BaseXP of the team, unless someone gets south transports route all to himself.  If someone else decides to tag a long and help, and it's just 1 other person, I won't say anything.  But I will say something if it's 2 more people coming up north, that's too much strength taken away from the center group.  I don't do the south transports route anymore unless it's a very rare occasion nobody goes that way.  Usually if you go do the transports route, even announce it, people pile in and you are now dividing up the kills and damage between each other.  And you don't get the achievement "Shark among Shrimps" because people are there taking the kills away.

Never kept track of plane kills but sure I had plenty as by going solo the north route I was always not only the CVs center of attention but the only target they ever went for up until the time I sunk them...a lot of the reason for surviving so well is I was always WASDing heavily when they showed up to throw off other ships targeting of me.

Never ran them out of planes but dodged well enough I never took any torps (or if so just 1 easily repairable & healable one occasionally).

Don't recall the "Shrimp" achievement (on phone so can't check if I got it)...has that been around since the start or is that new?

Lex always had both the Phoenix & Nicholas escort every time I ran it...is Nicholas just a maybe now?

Ranger doesn't have the Indy & all the other support ships w/it anymore...that was a good 1/4 of my XP farming those after sneaking in the harbor after taking out King (is that still the name of the Lex?).

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1 hour ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Never ran them out of planes but dodged well enough I never took any torps (or if so just 1 easily repairable & healable one occasionally).

Don't recall the "Shrimp" achievement (on phone so can't check if I got it)...has that been around since the start or is that new?

Lex always had both the Phoenix & Nicholas escort every time I ran it...is Nicholas just a maybe now?

Ranger doesn't have the Indy & all the other support ships w/it anymore...that was a good 1/4 of my XP farming those after sneaking in the harbor after taking out King (is that still the name of the Lex?).

Shark Among Shrimps has been around forever with Narai.  It's very specific in that only the south transports route is the place to get it in Narai.  The requirements: "Destroy at least 5 enemy auxiliary ships."

So basically whoever goes south has to get all the transports.  Anytime someone else gets a kill of any transports and not the guy doing that route, he can't get the achievement.  Which is why it's very hard to get it when you get a randomly put together team.  Even if one were to say why he's trying to do that route alone, there's always someone else that jumps in and ruins it.  It's why I never do that route anymore on a PUG team.  I'd rather solo the CV route.

 

When we do premade divisions for Narai, one guy does the south transports route and nobody else touches the transports / auxiliary ships but him.  The only help he may get is from the BBs blasting the fort that's in that area early on in the game.  If the guy does this route plays decently as well as the remainder of the op, gets the achievement, he should easily get top score of the team.

 

Regarding Lexington / CV route, usually Nicholas goes with Lexi and Phoenix, but depending on how and where the central part of the team advances, Nicholas may split off to them instead of going north.

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On 2/20/2020 at 10:46 PM, Versili said:

That's a cimarrón the larger of both types of transport ships in the game ..I'd like to have it at any teir just for the lols.

That's if it were available .....WG here's your new April fool's secret battle mode operstion. transports vs subs try to get out of the bay or into it. ...hmmmmm "I'd buy that for a dollar"

Versili,

Great Robocop reference!

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