438 TriHard_DodgeDealership Beta Testers 133 posts Report post #1 Posted February 17, 2020 when you crunch the numbers this by far has to be the worst cruiser line in the entire game. even german cruisers are at least GOOD later in the line. which line of cruisers is worse? tell me 1 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
401 [MOOW] Grapefruitcannon [MOOW] Members 687 posts 24,822 battles Report post #2 Posted February 17, 2020 The italian line after t7 is perfectly fine... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 [NH] DeletedUser Members 0 posts Report post #3 Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Grapefruitcannon said: The italian line after t7 is perfectly fine... Theres likely a good apple or two in a rotten basket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,799 [1984] monpetitloup Members 4,450 posts 21,484 battles Report post #4 Posted February 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, TriHard_DodgeDealership said: when you crunch the numbers this by far has to be the worst cruiser line in the entire game. even german cruisers are at least GOOD later in the line. which line of cruisers is worse? tell me If you dont shoot dds of course it sucks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
438 TriHard_DodgeDealership Beta Testers 133 posts Report post #5 Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, monpetitloup said: If you dont shoot dds of course it sucks. how are you supposed to shoot dds when they have no radar or hydro and when they try to get close enough to a cap to get ready to shoot a dd they get blapped because of their huge citadels and trash armor these things are about as good of dd hunters as yamato is which is to say not good at all 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,799 [1984] monpetitloup Members 4,450 posts 21,484 battles Report post #6 Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 12:16 AM, TriHard_DodgeDealership said: how are you supposed to shoot dds when they have no radar or hydro and when they try to get close enough to a cap to get ready to shoot a dd they get blapped because of their huge citadels and trash armor these things are about as good of dd hunters as yamato is which is to say not good at all when your dd spots their dds, shoot them. If you keep desperately trying to sap bbs until the spotted dds disapear that’s on you. One salvo from italian ca is sufficient to take anywhere from half hp to dev striking a dd. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
349 [PSV] mrmariokartguy Privateers, Supertester 785 posts 6,399 battles Report post #7 Posted February 17, 2020 The Italian cruisers are fine. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,580 [C-CA] Landsraad [C-CA] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,304 posts 6,280 battles Report post #8 Posted February 17, 2020 Feel free to keep thinking they're crap then. I'll just keep taking out the Venezia whenever a mission needs me to get citadels since it can outright DELETE other cruisers with that 15-gun broadside. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
211 [UNC] Uncle_Lou Members 852 posts 6,196 battles Report post #9 Posted February 17, 2020 The earlier parts of the line are meh, but Amalfi is good, Brindisi is very good, and Venezia is excellent and can be a downright monster when played right. But I am totally ok with fewer Italian CAs on the other team. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
869 Nikolay_Kuznetsov_ Members 1,318 posts Report post #10 Posted February 17, 2020 NP with the italian line here must be the player. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,611 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,185 posts 6,659 battles Report post #11 Posted February 17, 2020 When the mid tiers make you long for the mediocrity of Duca d' Aosta, you know something is up. It's sad cause many players won't move to tier VIII upwards where things start getting better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
185 [B_Y_F] sapient007 Members 613 posts 14,723 battles Report post #12 Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Grapefruitcannon said: The italian line after t7 is perfectly fine... T7 is probably the worst one. T5 feels good and T6 is OK. T8 up they become monster in the right hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
211 [MKF] Dath_1 Members 583 posts 20,416 battles Report post #13 Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, sapient007 said: T7 is probably the worst one. T5 feels good and T6 is OK. T8 up they become monster in the right hand. I'm on Brindisi but I've found them all to be pretty good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
331 [TDR] ditka_Fatdog [TDR] Members 1,033 posts 11,081 battles Report post #14 Posted February 17, 2020 Italian cruisers are quite strong really. Some of my highest average damage cruiser through out the line. German cruiser are all also quite good, other than maybe hipper is just meh but the rest are very competitive tier for tier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,664 [PVE] AdmiralThunder Members 12,854 posts 26,831 battles Report post #15 Posted February 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Grapefruitcannon said: The italian line after t7 is perfectly fine... Agree. No use for T7 and below but at T8 Amalfi they start to improve; it is ok. T9 is quite good and T10 is really good IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
285 [CLRN] ghostbuster_ Members 598 posts 122 battles Report post #16 Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, TriHard_DodgeDealership said: when you crunch the numbers this by far has to be the worst cruiser line in the entire game. even german cruisers are at least GOOD later in the line. which line of cruisers is worse? tell me Why do you think that italian Cruisers are bad? They cant set fires but their alpha damage output is completely fine. You can easly do 10k-15k to BBs with one salvo. SAP is also working well against other cruisers. Im not even gonna mention how it performs against DDs. Besides italian cruisers have something other cruisers dont have. The ability of disengaging when you fck up with your positioning. Being able to smoke up while going full speed is a huge advantage. Edited February 17, 2020 by ghostbuster_ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 [BASIN] shadowsrmine [BASIN] Members 4,347 posts 16,937 battles Report post #17 Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said: Why do you think that italian Cruisers are bad? They cant set fires but their alpha damage output is completely fine. You can easly do 10k-15k to BBs with one salvo. SAP is also working well against other cruisers. Im not even gonna mention how it performs against DDs. Besides italian cruisers have something other cruisers dont have. The ability of disengaging when you fck up with tour positioning. Being able to smoke up while going full speed is a huge advantage. And their Much Much Better than RN heavy cruisersat least when starting at Amalfi,Brindisi,Venezia Edited February 17, 2020 by shadowsrmine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,216 [WMD] VeatherVitch Members 1,779 posts 10,120 battles Report post #18 Posted February 17, 2020 6 hours ago, TriHard_DodgeDealership said: when you crunch the numbers this by far has to be the worst cruiser line in the entire game. even german cruisers are at least GOOD later in the line. which line of cruisers is worse? tell me The saddest thing here is the lack of capital letters. It's hard to take an opinion seriously when the author can't be bothered to write it correctly. 2 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
587 [BOTO] Aaron_S_Merrill Members 1,403 posts 16,959 battles Report post #19 Posted February 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said: And their Much Much Better than RN heavy cruisersat least when starting at Amalfi,Brindisi,Venezia Not my experience so far. I'm not particularly fond of either line but I'd probably take the RN CA line over the Italian line. The Italian ships can often be frustrating because of your inability to do damage to angled targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22 PIGARD Members 80 posts 20,849 battles Report post #20 Posted February 17, 2020 Duca D'Aosta is a fine ship, the added torps have really great range. One of my favorite cruisers, especially after playing it to death over the holidays in the PR fiasco. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
561 [GOOF] grorg Members 773 posts 6,469 battles Report post #21 Posted February 17, 2020 I joined the game in 16 longing for the Italian tree. Awarded Monte and trento......... Not gonna lie I really feel WG has failed this nation tree. Continued it's maybe unwarranted bad name for snuffing Italians. Pity, I love these ships they're gorgeous. SAP is awesome but I don't understand why wg made them so weak. Monte uptiered is a good day of sailing around and they know it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 [BASIN] shadowsrmine [BASIN] Members 4,347 posts 16,937 battles Report post #22 Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Aaron_S_Merrill said: Not my experience so far. I'm not particularly fond of either line but I'd probably take the RN CA line over the Italian line. The Italian ships can often be frustrating because of your inability to do damage to angled targets. To each their own, Meh to the RN heavy cruisers and NTY! They are in contrast Edited February 17, 2020 by shadowsrmine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,836 [SIDE] thebigblue Members 4,939 posts Report post #23 Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) I like that this line is responsive. Feels sportier than the French. Tier 5 premium cruiser was alright. It's far from awesome but few cruisers at 5 are. Tier 6 tree cruiser isn't bad. Smoke is nice. Guns are good on lightly armored targets and have nice trajectories. Range is alright. Could use hydro.Concealment is horrible. Range ROF sucks. Tier 7 is bad. Might he worst cruiser in tier. It's a little more responsive than Tier 6 but not much else seems better. Range and ROF are basically unchanged. Conceal is a little bit better but still horrible. Hope tier 8, 9 and 10 get much better. Edited February 17, 2020 by thebigblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,136 [TDRB] kgh52 Members 5,162 posts 13,743 battles Report post #24 Posted February 17, 2020 6 hours ago, TriHard_DodgeDealership said: when you crunch the numbers this by far has to be the worst cruiser line in the entire game. even german cruisers are at least GOOD later in the line. which line of cruisers is worse? tell me The Italian cruiser line does not have enough battles for the numbers to provide a good picture of the ship's performance. There are individual ships with more battles than the Italian line has in total. As the number of battles grow so will our knowledge of how to get the most out of these ships. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,029 [IXM] Vector03 Members 1,060 posts Report post #25 Posted February 17, 2020 7 hours ago, TriHard_DodgeDealership said: when you crunch the numbers this by far has to be the worst cruiser line in the entire game. even german cruisers are at least GOOD later in the line. which line of cruisers is worse? tell me British CAs. The Italians at least have smoke, SAP which wrecks DDs and probably most cruisers, and aren't all giant slow fat slugs that also don't really have great armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
