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I finally saved up 1,000,000 free XP points.  Now, what to do with them?

I like gun-boat DD play so the Friesland does appeal to me. 

Is it known how much longer they will be available for free XP?

Is it known what the next free XP ship might be and when?

Is there anything I should consider doing with all these points?

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17 minutes ago, TheSteelGeneraI said:

I finally saved up 1,000,000 free XP points.  Now, what to do with them?

I have a couple of highly colorful suggestions, but they're probably not going to be helpful …..

18 minutes ago, TheSteelGeneraI said:

I like gun-boat DD play so the Friesland does appeal to me.

It appeals to quite a few people; it's supposed to be quite a ship, although it is going to take a very special skill set to excel in it with no torps.

19 minutes ago, TheSteelGeneraI said:

Is it known how much longer they will be available for free XP?

No one not associated with WG knows how long it will be available for free XP, and those that do know are probably bound by an NDA.

20 minutes ago, TheSteelGeneraI said:

Is it known what the next free XP ship might be and when?

No one not associated with WG knows what the next free XP ship will be (though you can find all manner of wild-azzed guesses right here in the Forum), and those who do know are definitely bound by an NDA.

22 minutes ago, TheSteelGeneraI said:

Is there anything I should consider doing with all these points?

And now we've come full circle, back to those colorful yet unhelpful suggestions again. Historically, when WG removes a ship from sale, they do give you plenty of time before it's just gone, so if you're not 100 % sold on Friesland you might just want to save your XP until you are, or they release a new free XP ship. Your XP will not go away unless YOU spend it.

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There are two dds t10 way one IJN and one Swedish coming out for free xp. I would hang on to the xp for now

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Next free xp is pan European tier 10 DD.

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Friesland is a fun ship and definitely worth picking up. No one that isn’t under NDA knows how much longer it will be around, but it’s still fairly new so I wouldn’t expect it to be removed in the very near future. 

Hayate (t10 IJN, supposed to be a more gunboat version of Shima) and Smaland (t10 pan EU DD) have both been confirmed as free xp, so while no release date has been announced it should be pretty soon if they’re announcing the currency. Especially since Smaland will probably come with or shortly after the pan EU DD event in 9.2-3. We don’t know the price, but it will definitely be more than 1 million. I’ve seen estimates in the 1.5-2 million range, or as high as 3-4 million (the average price in free xp for the two RB ships that would be the only ones that can be acquired using free xp). 

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14 minutes ago, whyme69 said:

Next free xp is pan European tier 10 DD.

I was going to say something close to this. 

I'd consider using the FXP to unlock the Pan European DDs.  The playstyle isn't really the same in that the new DDs won't have smoke.  Remember the Pan Euro DDs will need a high skill point captain.  Unless you already have a Blys captain you'll be starting from scratch. 

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1 hour ago, TheSteelGeneraI said:

Is it known what the next free XP ship might be and when?

Next two FXP ships are DDs - I believe T10 French and Pan-European. Marceau... and Smalland? (Can't remember what the tech tree ship was) As for when, I'd suspect they'll be released arund when the Pan-European line goes in, so roughly April or May.

 

1 hour ago, Umikami said:

No one not associated with WG knows what the next free XP ship will be (though you can find all manner of wild-azzed guesses right here in the Forum), and those who do know are definitely bound by an NDA.

Stop being a pessimist/jerk - WG's openly said what the next FXP, Coal and Steel ships will be - It was on the dev blog a week or two ago.

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21 minutes ago, TheOmegaDuck said:

 

Stop being a pessimist/jerk - WG's openly said what the next FXP, Coal and Steel ships will be - It was on the dev blog a week or two ago.

I wouldn't bother, Umi isn't exactly a remotely pleasant person to deal with on these forums much like their performance.

Moving on, to the OP:  Friesland is not an easy ship to play, and while the playstyle is simple there's many considerations to make her shine.  You need to have a high skill captain to make Friesland work well, and understand picking fights with 6.4 concealment against other DDs is not easy and needs to be done a particular way.  If you think you're good at DDs and hate CVs, then I recommend.  If not, Alaska is the safe choice for most.

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2 hours ago, TheOmegaDuck said:

Stop being a pessimist/jerk - WG's openly said what the next FXP, Coal and Steel ships will be - It was on the dev blog a week or two ago.

Then I guess OP should learn to read.

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The Friesland Is a wonderful ship to play, it would help if you can make a 19 point captain for her, and have the skill to play it, it is easily pushed on by BB players as most know you have no torps, but the fires you can set is outrageous.

While it has a higher detection rate, at times when contesting the cap you will get spotted, say by a ijn DD, who upon sees you will smoke up, now if you have not fired your guns you simply run up to about 4 km, pop your smoke so long as you are safe from radar, pop your hydro, then proceed to punch that poor IJN DD in the face, this works well on maps like land of fire B cap.

The best I have done with the Friesland is 88 planes shot down (double CV game T10 & T8), so CV players tend to not bother you once they loose their squads a couple of times. 

I would wait though till the other Pan E ships get released, but if you cannot wait then get the Friesland.

 

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10 hours ago, CriMiNaL__ said:

The Friesland Is a wonderful ship to play, it would help if you can make a 19 point captain for her, and have the skill to play it, it is easily pushed on by BB players as most know you have no torps, but the fires you can set is outrageous.

While it has a higher detection rate, at times when contesting the cap you will get spotted, say by a ijn DD, who upon sees you will smoke up, now if you have not fired your guns you simply run up to about 4 km, pop your smoke so long as you are safe from radar, pop your hydro, then proceed to punch that poor IJN DD in the face, this works well on maps like land of fire B cap.

The best I have done with the Friesland is 88 planes shot down (double CV game T10 & T8), so CV players tend to not bother you once they loose their squads a couple of times. 

I would wait though till the other Pan E ships get released, but if you cannot wait then get the Friesland.

 

I really love my Friesland, but I agree with this. She is intensive on captain points and really needs a 24-point captain... and also she is going to be a weird standout in the Pan-Sweden line where a captain built for Friesland will not really share skills with the tech tree line. Still, I'd get her overall. She's just sexy.

However, Hayate and Smaland are confirmed for FXP as well. I've been saving and have 1.9M FXP right now, but there's no confirmation on release date for either now.

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Steel General,

Just got my Friesland.  Played one game and I love it.  I still do not know all the idiosyncrasies yet and a couple of suggestions I have read are great in here to make the play even better.  I have a 4 point captain so it will only get better the higher my captain gets.  Yes there may be some others coming, but they sould be out for awhile and you can build up again.  If you get it, enjoy!

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18 hours ago, TheSteelGeneraI said:

I finally saved up 1,000,000 free XP points.  Now, what to do with them?

I like gun-boat DD play so the Friesland does appeal to me. 

Is it known how much longer they will be available for free XP?

Is it known what the next free XP ship might be and when?

Is there anything I should consider doing with all these points?

Remember this, the Pan European DD line is in the near future I suspect, so getting the Friesland gets you a jump on a line.

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33 minutes ago, GrimmeReaper said:

Remember this, the Pan European DD line is in the near future I suspect, so getting the Friesland gets you a jump on a line.

I'm trying to get everyone to call it the pan-Swedish line.

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1 hour ago, RainbowFartingUnicorn said:

I'm trying to get everyone to call it the pan-Swedish line.

In reality that is about what it is isn't it.

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1 hour ago, RainbowFartingUnicorn said:

I'm trying to get everyone to call it the pan-Swedish line.

If I ever bother discussing it, I will. 

 

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A maybe. The Hayate will bring a IJN topedo/gun boat hybrid, some ST are happy with her, some say it's hard to make a build to optimise both options. The upcoming Swedish boat is complete utterly broken in the current state, not sure if she will make it to the live server. But hey, we got the Smolensk. They may add a Soviet flag, and she will be alright. The Friesland is good, no question, but you need invest a good amount of eliteXP (or flags to farm those).

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I enjoy the Friesland.  The AA is godly.  You won't get dropped on much although if the carrier is determined he can still keep you spotted all match which is where the pain really comes from.  The gun/smoke/hydro combo lets you do a lot of burning of big ships and nuking of destroyers.  You have to remember that you can't shove a fistful of torpedoes in anybody's face though... plan accordingly.

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Paying for the Friesland is essentially paying Tier 9 FXP costs for a Tier 7 DD with Tier 9 MM.... which is even worse than a Tier 7 DD with Tier 7 MM.

There are a multitude of tier 8 DDs which are completely more competitive and more viable than the Friesland.

The ship looks amazing aesthetically, but AA power as an attribute can never be treated like a primary strength just for the same reason plane kills are NOT a tier 1 performance metric. Damage, killing, and surviving are the tier 1 performance metrics, and if a ship sacrifices attributes contributing to any of those three simply because it has increased AA power (e.g. Friesland) it is than factually underpowered from the get-go. You cannot force a CV to be in every match, and you cannot force a CV to focus on you, etc.

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16 hours ago, CriMiNaL__ said:

The Friesland Is a wonderful ship to play, it would help if you can make a 19 point captain for her, and have the skill to play it, it is easily pushed on by BB players as most know you have no torps, but the fires you can set is outrageous.

While it has a higher detection rate, at times when contesting the cap you will get spotted, say by a ijn DD, who upon sees you will smoke up, now if you have not fired your guns you simply run up to about 4 km, pop your smoke so long as you are safe from radar, pop your hydro, then proceed to punch that poor IJN DD in the face, this works well on maps like land of fire B cap.

The best I have done with the Friesland is 88 planes shot down (double CV game T10 & T8), so CV players tend to not bother you once they loose their squads a couple of times. 

I would wait though till the other Pan E ships get released, but if you cannot wait then get the Friesland.

 

^^^ best answer so far.

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5 minutes ago, Varknyn12 said:

Paying for the Friesland is essentially paying Tier 9 FXP costs for a Tier 7 DD with Tier 9 MM.... which is even worse than a Tier 7 DD with Tier 7 MM.

There are a multitude of tier 8 DDs which are completely more competitive and more viable than the Friesland.

The ship looks amazing aesthetically, but AA power as an attribute can never be treated like a primary strength just for the same reason plane kills are NOT a tier 1 performance metric. Damage, killing, and surviving are the tier 1 performance metrics, and if a ship sacrifices attributes contributing to any of those three simply because it has increased AA power (e.g. Friesland) it is than factually underpowered from the get-go. You cannot force a CV to be in every match, and you cannot force a CV to focus on you, etc.

It's a tier 10 gunboat at tier 9 with excellent smoke, hydro, agility that also has decent concealment and ridiculous DPM. 

Thinking team strat, that AA is absolutely fantastic for escorting kagero, yugomo and shima in 1-2 red CV matches.

Tier 7? Are you high?

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