151 [JTF67] JAPridemore Members 116 posts 5,461 battles Report post #1 Posted February 14, 2020 The case for airplanes being in World of Warships as put forth by Wargaming and a small portion of the player base is bunk. As has been pointed out, this is an arcade historicish game not a simulator. Most players feel that airplanes and CVs ruin the game-play of ship vs. ship combat. Wargaming seems to feel the same as evidenced by the lack of airplanes in World of Tanks. Airplanes have had a massive impact, historically, on combat involving tracked vehicles (P47, SU-10) but players in WoT have no fear of air attack. If only WoWs had such an environment. 13 1 37 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,020 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,812 posts Report post #2 Posted February 14, 2020 It's not going to happen. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
178 [ANZ4C] _SterlingArcher_ Members 208 posts 7,396 battles Report post #3 Posted February 14, 2020 No. Just, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
89 Enpra Members 265 posts 3,508 battles Report post #4 Posted February 14, 2020 CVs are warships. Thus planes are in World of Warships since CVs launch them. Planes are not in World of Tanks because, as far as I know, tanks don't launch planes. If there is some amazing mobile airfield supertank, I would love to know. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
239 [55UP] FineousFingers Members 407 posts 3,372 battles Report post #5 Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) WG has decided they want carriers in the game. They were in the game at launch, they just went through what was likely a costly rework last year. WG has said with words and actions that carriers are here to stay. Now, it’s up to you and and any others who object to carriers in the game to decide what you’re going to do. You can adapt as you’ve certainly adapted to other changes in the game, you can leave, or you can shake your fist in rage ineffectively at WG and keep playing. Your choice. None of it will affect the content of the game. Edited May 5, 2020 by FineousFingers 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
483 [MEIST] jager_geist Members 1,505 posts 5,746 battles Report post #6 Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, JAPridemore said: Wargaming seems to feel the same as evidenced by the lack of airplanes in World of Tanks. Tanks has artillery and that is also hated over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [JTF67] JAPridemore Members 116 posts 5,461 battles Report post #7 Posted February 14, 2020 This game is so historical. How many carriers were sunk by enemy surface-ship gunfire, before they were abandoned? None. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
239 [55UP] FineousFingers Members 407 posts 3,372 battles Report post #8 Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, JAPridemore said: This game is so historical. How many carriers were sunk by enemy surface-ship gunfire, before they were abandoned? None. HMS Glorious was sunk by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [JTF67] JAPridemore Members 116 posts 5,461 battles Report post #9 Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FineousFingers said: HMS Glorious was sunk by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Good catch. You are correct. I have changed my mind. One or two carriers should be on each side in most battles even lower tier ones where ships have almost no defense. Edited February 14, 2020 by JAPridemore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,342 [S0L0] iRA6E [S0L0] Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 4,734 posts 7,251 battles Report post #10 Posted February 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, JAPridemore said: The case for airplanes being in World of Warships as put forth by Wargaming and a small portion of the player base is bunk. As has been pointed out, this is an arcade historicish game not a simulator. Most players feel that airplanes and CVs ruin the game-play of ship vs. ship combat. Wargaming seems to feel the same as evidenced by the lack of airplanes in World of Tanks. Airplanes have had a massive impact, historically, on combat involving tracked vehicles (P47, SU-10) but players in WoT have no fear of air attack. If only WoWs had such an environment. Well... FTR, Planes aren't exactly launched off tracked vehicles? Warships did launch planes.. BBs, CAs and CVs . All of which are by any definition ships... If you can show me a case where P47 or SU-10 are carried and launched from anything with tracks I'll go over to the WOT forums and argue for their addition.. I'll wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [POD] Horaf_1 Members 30 posts 17,964 battles Report post #11 Posted February 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, FineousFingers said: HMS Glorious was sunk by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Glorious was not able to launch planes in her defense. There were no carrier planes to throw them selves at the 2 German battlecruisers. Could that happen in WoWs? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [JTF67] JAPridemore Members 116 posts 5,461 battles Report post #12 Posted February 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, iRA6E said: Well... FTR, Planes aren't exactly launched off tracked vehicles? Warships did launch planes.. BBs, CAs and CVs . All of which are by any definition ships... If you can show me a case where P47 or SU-10 are carried and launched from anything with tracks I'll go over to the WOT forums and argue for their addition.. I'll wait. Wargaming adds fictional tanks to WoT all the time. Give 'em a week and they'll add a Russian Tank that launches planes. Now they have the idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,029 [IXM] Vector03 Members 1,060 posts Report post #13 Posted February 14, 2020 CVs are cancer and don't belong in the game. That being said, WG will likely keep them because they add the perfect element of frustration they need to get people to spend money. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,035 GhostSwordsman Members 6,187 posts 7,981 battles Report post #14 Posted February 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Enpra said: CVs are warships. Thus planes are in World of Warships since CVs launch them. Planes are not in World of Tanks because, as far as I know, tanks don't launch planes. If there is some amazing mobile airfield supertank, I would love to know. DA COMRADE! You lack the faith in glorious motherland! Sekrit dokument exists! Just wait, will see! Now, off to gulag! Must be correcting pesky faithlessness in glorious motherland and will of people! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,342 [S0L0] iRA6E [S0L0] Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 4,734 posts 7,251 battles Report post #15 Posted February 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, JAPridemore said: Wargaming adds fictional tanks to WoT all the time. Give 'em a week and they'll add a Russian Tank that launches planes. Now they have the idea. Torpedoes aren't ships... I'd like them removed from the game? WOT players don't have to deal with them either.... I think we should picket. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
301 Hatsuzuki_DD Members 485 posts 15,274 battles Report post #16 Posted February 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, FineousFingers said: WG has decided they want carriers in the game. They were in the game at launch, they just went through what was likely a costly rework last year. WG has said with words and actions that carriers are here to stay. Now, it’s up to you and and any others who object to carriers in the game to decide what you’re going to do. You can adapt as you’ve certainly adapted to other changes in the game, you can leave, or you can shake your fist in rage effectively at WG and keep playing. Your choice. None of it will affect the content of the game. I choose to let my wallet speak for me and remain closed. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325 [SNGNS] TobTorp Members 585 posts 6,824 battles Report post #17 Posted February 14, 2020 i don't know of a tank that launched planes, but i do know of a flying tank. FLYING TANK IN WORLD OF TANKS WHEN WEEGEE? 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
94 [WTAF] Kenrod_Melrocity Members 221 posts 8,674 battles Report post #18 Posted February 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, JAPridemore said: This game is so historical. How many carriers were sunk by enemy surface-ship gunfire, before they were abandoned? None. USS Gambier Bay and maybe USS St. Lo would argue with that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
343 [WOLFC] Nolo_00 Members 520 posts 7,729 battles Report post #19 Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, TobTorp said: i don't know of a tank that launched planes, but i do know of a flying tank. FLYING TANK IN WORLD OF TANKS WHEN WEEGEE? I was just about to post this when the notification popped up... As for the OP. No. Just...no. Not saying there aren't issues with the gameplay or balance, but they do have a place in the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,136 [TDRB] kgh52 Members 5,162 posts 13,743 battles Report post #20 Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, FineousFingers said: WG has decided they want carriers in the game. They were in the game at launch, they just went through what was likely a costly rework last year. WG has said with words and actions that carriers are here to stay. Now, it’s up to you and and any others who object to carriers in the game to decide what you’re going to do. You can adapt as you’ve certainly adapted to other changes in the game, you can leave, or you can shake your fist in rage effectively at WG and keep playing. Your choice. None of it will affect the content of the game. Are you sure none of it will affect the content of the game? As I understand it the CV rework & the attempt to add subs to the game are products of players demands, and a small number of players at that. Most people who are shaking the fist in protest do continue to play & adapt to the current game. I believe CV's are still broken. I believe the best way to fix them is to remove them & rework the rework. But I know that is NOT gonna happen. Edited February 14, 2020 by kgh52 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
237 [TIGRB] SkullDuggery05 Members 235 posts 2,635 battles Report post #21 Posted February 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, JAPridemore said: This game is so historical. How many carriers were sunk by enemy surface-ship gunfire, before they were abandoned? None. HMS Glorious. IJN Chiyoda, USS Gambier Bay were all sunk by enemy gunfire in WW2. A few other American small CV's were were damaged by surface fire and later sunk by Aircraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,136 [TDRB] kgh52 Members 5,162 posts 13,743 battles Report post #22 Posted February 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, TobTorp said: i don't know of a tank that launched planes, but i do know of a flying tank. FLYING TANK IN WORLD OF TANKS WHEN WEEGEE? The USAF tested track landing gear on the B-36 but it was too heavy & very noisy so the test were abandoned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325 [SNGNS] TobTorp Members 585 posts 6,824 battles Report post #23 Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, kgh52 said: The USAF tested track landing gear on the B-36 but it was too heavy & very noisy so the test were abandoned. was not Russian enough, comrade! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,046 [SALVO] Crucis Members 25,789 posts 28,039 battles Report post #24 Posted February 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, jager_geist said: Tanks has artillery and that is also hated over there. That's because there's a certain percentage of brain dead gamers who think that there's something "unfair" about indirect fire. And carriers are sort of indirect fire weapons as well, though any regular ship that can lob shells over islands unseen is also acting as an indirect fire weapon. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,402 [SALVO] eviltane Members 2,647 posts 6,773 battles Report post #25 Posted February 14, 2020 Indirect fire vs point blanks attacks with no risk ...... Big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
