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As RN Heavy Cruiser come to a close... thoughts into spring.

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The directives were fun...  I didn't spend any Doubloons for option 1 in the Armory.  Just awarded tokens for option 2..  I'm out of missions that award token, and have 15 tokens left...  Go figure.  On the other hand I received only one of the ships.  Hawkins.  I like Hawkins.  It's a good ship.  It's the only ship I received from how ever many 20 token turn in's selection option 2 in the armory.   And while you do know what your getting next I suppose I should be thankful the game system didn't troll me by showing me the next award would have been the tier VI,VII, or tier VIII cruiser with me 5 tokens short.

My critiques of current WG practices has been stated so none of that here other than a mention. 

Very soon we'll see the rest RN Heavy Cruiser line and it will be good.  Many ships arriving 9.1 and then 9.2.  Along with game changes with more to come.  Ships are playing pieces so they're not really new content.  "Things to do" Is content.   A thing to do that could be automated and keep folk busy and entertained for a long time would be a nice good old fashioned...War for Virtual Seas.   Really hope they decide to run with a "war" macro game by summer.   I know they got the talent for it and done right could be awesome long term fun that doesn't depend on clans, or tier of ship, or quality of player as it should incorporate PvE because there is a map involved were fighting over parts of.  So many ways to do it.. Just look at tabletop war games that have systems to represent abstract events that players can influence.  We had something much like that with the Light Vs Dark event back when so it's totally doable.

End of last year was rough.  Been a rough couple years plus now for the computer gaming industry for that matter.   Publishers who have found such a lucrative money generator and have discovered that self moderation doesn't seem to be possible.  The enviable result, government involvement in your stuff. Years of warning signs ignored that said "There are Limits!".    There should be much gnashing of teeth in corporate boardrooms during 2020.    Some of the "mechanics" used in games these days would get a casino shut down, and it's owners and operators arrested, tried, convicted, fined and incarcerated.   THAT far beyond the pall of acceptable corporate behavior. 

Wargaming.net and it's affiliates are not quite at that point.   Have stepped a bit close however.  Hope they never step that close again.

I suppose what I am really saying is...

   "The Game is the thing"

WOWS doesn't disappoint.   Frustrates? Oh yea I hope to scream  and shout.. much frustration at times. To much at times.   But nawww.. We got Game!  We look forward one and all to the ship.. you know the one.  It catches your eye, and its mechanics are.... interesting.. they fit the way you generally play.  Magic seem to surround it...And then you see what your going to have to go through to get it.    I'm putting myself through the agony of research bureau and resetting my tier X lines to get a soon (tm) to be released IJN tier X super hybrid DD with More Torps (tm) IJN Super DP FF 127's (tm)  high speed nimble stealthy... yea ya might call it pay to win but have you seen what DD's have to deal with at tier X lately?  Sweet mother of GOD!

It's kind of like that old very bad not PC joke about the tourist town reservation Indian that tell's the tourist lady "All ready know 'how', just want chance.".

Yep I'm being naughty...outta here.

Enjoy day, play clean, play fair and play with your team.

Warlord sends.

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The Hawkins is an odd bird from the time when all center line guns was not the norm still have some wing turrets. You have to do a lot of wiggling with her to get the best gun performance.

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39 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

The Hawkins is an odd bird from the time when all center line guns was not the norm still have some wing turrets. You have to do a lot of wiggling with her to get the best gun performance.

 

Which is hard to do, because she's very slow to respond. I'm still working on that.

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51 minutes ago, TL_Warlord_Roff said:

I suppose I should be thankful the game system didn't troll me by showing me the next award would have been the tier VI,VII, or tier VIII cruiser with me 5 tokens short

I'm ten tokens short of the T5. WAHHHH!!! lol

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I actually do look at the ships and being able to try them out, take them into battle, etc, as content -- and a lot of the "content" as things I have to put up with to get the ships and be able to just go kill bots in them.

 

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Just now, Capt_Ahab1776 said:

I'm ten tokens short of the T5. WAHHHH!!! lol

One of the ridiculous elements of the "random bundle" system is that the next unlocked bundle, the one you can't ever get, could be a ship.

 

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4 minutes ago, MichiganEagle said:

 

Which is hard to do, because she's very slow to respond. I'm still working on that.

You need to angle more like you would with the French BB's.

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The RN *heavy* (really?  they seem made of paper mache' hulls, eh?) cruisers benefit from rudder shift improvements, just as the Italian Cruisers do.

The British have a repair party, though, which makes them versatile, especially in a long battle or a scenario operation.

I've got the Hawkins, Exeter, Devonshire and Albemarle.

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1 minute ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

The RN *heavy* (really?  they seem made of paper mache' hulls, eh?) cruisers benefit from rudder shift improvements, just as the Italian Cruisers do.

The British have a repair party, though, which makes them versatile, especially in a long battle or a scenario operation.

I've got the Hawkins, Exeter, Devonshire and Albemarle.

Cruisers are brittle with few exceptions.

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Event wise being content, hey, I don't disagree but we've been doing this since the Russian DD line. They've done a couple  "Take a Side" events.  There's the annual halloween event.   Need something new not a recycle.  Prolly gonna have ta wait a year and a bit for another drydock thing because ya know, reasons.  

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4 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

One of the ridiculous elements of the "random bundle" system is that the next unlocked bundle, the one you can't ever get, could be a ship.

 

I can see it too, just as Warlord suggested. I got the T7, so thankful for that one. 

I'm hands down the worst cruiser captain in the game so I will probably pass on buying a premium crate for a ship that in my hands is a guaranteed loss. 

If it was a CV, BB, or DD I would be more tempted. I did splurge $6 for the doubloons to finish the Benham grind. I was one mission short on that one. No regrets. The Benham is as fun as a barrel of monkeys.

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21 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

The Hawkins is an odd bird from the time when all center line guns was not the norm still have some wing turrets. You have to do a lot of wiggling with her to get the best gun performance.

  Hawkins kinda reminds me of a CA version of Omaha- just not as agile or quick firing.   Interesting ship, but in the current meta (in pve, where I play most) it's kinda meh.   The guns ARE accurate, and they do good damage.   Given time to set up properly (to catch broadsides to hammer, and stragglers to beat up), it can do quite well.   It just rarely GETS that time, currently.   Nor is it especially good at the " I got torps, so I must be a big DD!!" playstyle all the CL players seem to share in those tiers.    Only having twin torpedo launchers means anything with big teeth requires more than just a single salvo to kill (if full health)- that just pisses them off! lol.

  Also, while it does get HE (!), it's chances to start fires are fairly low- and the task of HE spamming and firesetting are best left to the fast firing ships- or those with large enough shells to do big damage.   Hawkins' HE is best used vs bow on and angled targets that would shrug off it's AP- or those broadside targets who'd eat the most direct damage from it's shells.   Like DD's.

  All the above is why it kind of reminds me of a USN-ish ship.   Not a front line knife fighter, nor is it a sniper.  It seems best suited to a supporting fire, flanking, or utility role.   And like all thin skinned cruisers, it does it's best work when the reds are focusing their attention on someone other than YOU, lol.

  I kinda like the WWI ship playstyle- it's interesting and a change of pace from most others in that MM range.   It's also VERY different from Exeter.   I might just keep it in front line service as one of my first win knocker-offers,  when I want something different to play.    I'm in no hurry to start yet another full line grind...    Give me time to pile up some captain points as well.

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1 hour ago, KilljoyCutter said:

One of the ridiculous elements of the "random bundle" system is that the next unlocked bundle, the one you can't ever get, could be a ship.

The same thing could happen with the boxes, the only difference is the game didn't tell you.

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Those 7.5 inch guns on Hawkins are not going to win any awards. The stock base Furutaka has better guns than that. Exeter is half-decent even with only 6 barrels, plus she is much more manuverable than Hawkins. We shall see what Devonshire has to offer when the line drops as I have enough ship XP on Hawkins to get her immediately, and enough FXP over the million base to go for the upgrades right away as well. What peeved me most was the low drop rate for ships in the bundles. I maxed out the bundles without missing a drop and when my next bundle contents popped up on the last day I knew that the grind was done ship-wise with only a single ship. I dislike paying for permacammos (they cost doubloons-real money, which is too tight to mention) for a ship I know I will keep in my fleet mix. After all, I am an RN/Commonwealth (It's the British Empire, Sir!) main!

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Not really looking forward to grinding out this line but at least since I only won the tier 5, I can do the tier 6 and 7 in scenarios. I would have bought at least 1 of the 1000 doubloon choices if it would have been a ship in that window.

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I finally got my first ship from the token boxes when I completed Directive 4, of course it was Hawkins.  Only one quick coop battle with a 6-point captain and no upgrades installed.  It would have been nice to get her earlier... are we already at the end of daily token earning?

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59 minutes ago, WernerHerzdog said:

The same thing could happen with the boxes, the only difference is the game didn't tell you.

It isn't predetermined today what will be in some box you might or not open tomorrow.

 

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49 minutes ago, Mono_De_Mantequilla said:

I finally got my first ship from the token boxes when I completed Directive 4, of course it was Hawkins.  Only one quick coop battle with a 6-point captain and no upgrades installed.  It would have been nice to get her earlier... are we already at the end of daily token earning?

 

Appears so. I thought we had another two cracks at random bundles, but I did not get any tokens today. 

I got Hawkins and Devonshire. I was lucky compared to some others.

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34 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

It isn't predetermined today what will be in some box you might or not open tomorrow.

Does it matter whether it's predetermined?

For that matter, how do you know it isn't?

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By the way - this was British Heavy Cruisers Part 1. Does anybody know what Part 2 will include? More directives to potentially get the Tier 9 and 10, or something else?

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No clue as to what part II is unless it's the full release with likely a collection to do (for cammo/wear 2 flags) and maybe another set of directives for mission content.   Not expecting anything more then that 'cept possibly a premium giveaway from directive missions also possible. Not feeling likely though.

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17 minutes ago, WernerHerzdog said:

Does it matter whether it's predetermined?

Yes, because it's not sitting there showing the player what it would have been. 

 

17 minutes ago, WernerHerzdog said:

For that matter, how do you know it isn't?

Don't you start that tinfoil hat stuff too.

 

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2 hours ago, WernerHerzdog said:

The same thing could happen with the boxes, the only difference is the game didn't tell you.

 

1 hour ago, KilljoyCutter said:

It isn't predetermined today what will be in some box you might or not open tomorrow.

 

It is clearly an attempt to get around pending anti-loot box legislation by claiming it isn't gambling because you know what you're going to get.

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4 hours ago, Capt_Ahab1776 said:

I'm ten tokens short of the T5. WAHHHH!!! lol

No ship in mine but im 5 off with all directives done now.

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4 hours ago, KilljoyCutter said:

One of the ridiculous elements of the "random bundle" system is that the next unlocked bundle, the one you can't ever get, could be a ship.

 

They should guarantee one ship from tokens if they are staying with this system. If the first up for doubloons hadn't been the Devonshire I wouldn't have gotten a ship.

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