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Is it possible to earn Smolensk before it's removed?

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Is it even possible to get before it's removed?

244,000 coal in ~2 months seems impossible, and even with a coupon (183,000 coal) players are looking at ~3,050 coal a day, for 60 days to get it.

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Best you'll do with 3 crates is 3600, worst you'll do is 1200, more likely closer to 2k. But where it will vary is what you get in event crates, ranked sprint, supercontainers, etc. 

It's possible, but unlikely. 

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7 minutes ago, Fast_Battleship_Iowa said:

Is it even possible to get before it's removed?

244,000 coal in ~2 months seems impossible, and even with a coupon (183,000 coal) players are looking at ~3,050 coal a day, for 60 days to get it.

That's also the worst case scenario that you have no coal at all but most people have some coal. I would feel bad if someone just spent all there coal on a ship today and have none that's a bummer . But most people are sitting on some coal reserves . I just spent all my coal on the Thunderer a little while ago I have 20,000 already .

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I don't think this is a permanent removal as the ship is really only a terror in the hands of top players.

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If starting from Zero, unlikely. If you have some and are willing to convert steel then yeah maybe.

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It's possible. Ducky has the numbers, in his post, the only thing to add is begging off your clan leader for the treasury coal, might not be a lot but maybe the difference between smol and no smol.

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9 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

I don't think this is a permanent removal as the ship is really only a terror in the hands of top players.

On the stream I was watching they said it was being removed because to many people owned her not because it was OP . They said it will probable be back later . 

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4 minutes ago, clammboy said:

They said it will probable be back later . 

I have found that is WG slang for Christmas crates. If I recall, they used the exact same phrase for Kronstadt and Musashi

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5 minutes ago, clammboy said:

On the stream I was watching they said it was being removed because to many people owned her not because it was OP . They said it will probable be back later . 

Yeap -- Wargaming I guess considers population perhaps more important than any other factor in these things.

 

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1 minute ago, clammboy said:

On the stream I was watching they said it was being removed because to many people owned her not because it was OP . They said it will probable be back later . 

Yeah, that is what I heard. It is a toxic ship but that doesn't make it over powered.

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1 minute ago, _BBaby said:

I have found that is WG slang for Christmas crates. If I recall, they used the exact same phrase for Kronstadt and Musashi

Yes you could be right no doubt but they didn't sound like that .

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2 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

Yeap -- Wargaming I guess considered population perhaps more important than any other factor in these things.

 

He basically said that for game and tier balance there was too many of them so there removing it for a while .

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40 minutes ago, Fast_Battleship_Iowa said:

Is it even possible to get before it's removed?

244,000 coal in ~2 months seems impossible, and even with a coupon (183,000 coal) players are looking at ~3,050 coal a day, for 60 days to get it.

From scratch, using only dailies, factoring in the coal drop RNG, I doubt you could get all the way there. 

 

However if you count your currently balance of coal, steel, coal missions, clan treasury, upcoming ranked/CB/CBrawl/Ranked sprints.... I think it is more than doable.

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well, if you are in a clan, you will also get clan bonus.   if you need 183k,  it probably is possible if you grind daily.   daily missions sometimes give coal as well as some of the missions from  ship line grind. 244k probably is tough though. in bit over a month, I got 150k coal 

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1 hour ago, clammboy said:

On the stream I was watching they said it was being removed because to many people owned her not because it was OP . They said it will probable be back later . 

This is the very thing they said about the mighty mo when it was removed. To many people had it, were playing it they wanted to remove it and have people buy the others like Musashi. This ship will never return once its gone...... bank on it. 

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12 minutes ago, Slumlord_Dasboot said:

This is the very thing they said about the mighty mo when it was removed.

Yes.  The notorious "will always be for sale" nonsense,  I can't remember the exact phrase they used before removing it permanently.

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14 minutes ago, slokill_1 said:

Yes.  The notorious "will always be for sale" nonsense,  I can't remember the exact phrase they used before removing it permanently.

I don't remember them saying that at all about mighty Mo she was a credit earning monster removed for totally different reasons . Everybody knew she was gone never to return except in rare crates .

 

 

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really it all depends on how much you currently have

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12 minutes ago, clammboy said:
30 minutes ago, slokill_1 said:

Yes.  The notorious "will always be for sale" nonsense,  I can't remember the exact phrase they used before removing it permanently.

I don't remember them saying that at all about mighty Mo she was a credit earning monster removed for totally different reasons . Everybody knew she was gone never to return except in rare crates .

 

WG specifically stated that Missouri would always be available.  Others who've been around a while will remember.

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10 minutes ago, slokill_1 said:

WG specifically stated that Missouri would always be available.  Others who've been around a while will remember.

Technically, it is.  If you can get a lucky drop in an Xmas/new year container.  That’s how I got mine.

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Kick scratch misappropriated funds whatever it takes because it's worth it....

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I believe I have missed some info... The Smolensk is being removed?

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18 minutes ago, kishan99 said:

I believe I have missed some info... The Smolensk is being removed?

Yes, it was announced yesterday that Smolensk and Jean Bart are getting removed from the armory ‘temporarily’ in 9.3 because they are too popular and are oversaturating the MM pool (aka they’re going to be coming back in December in the Santa Crates as rare drops like Missouri and Nikolai for all the whales), and the non-t10 steel ships are getting removed because they aren’t popular enough and will be coming back soonTM for coal (so probably 6-8 months down the road according to most of the guesses I’ve seen).

 

To the OP, assuming you have a coupon and absolutely no coal right now, assuming you are in a clan with max coal buildings it would take a minimum 139 days to earn completing both stages of the daily missions and getting two crates a day (and only getting coal in the first slot on each of them), and 104 days if you get all three. Since multiple coal crates seem to be getting more popular, if you assume an average of 2k coal a day instead of 1760 (the minimum you can get with three crates) you’ll get there in 92 days, and adding in rewards from ranked sprints (and steel from normal ranked if you are so inclined to convert) and events lets say you get down to 80-82 days, It’s doable but very tough. If you don’t have a coupon....well, lets just say you’ll need to convert a lot of steel or get a really good RNG streak and hit two and three coal crates pretty much every single time (which would get you enough coal with no coupon in 62 days).

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5 minutes ago, MidnightPhoenix07 said:

Yes, it was announced yesterday that Smolensk and Jean Bart are getting removed from the armory ‘temporarily’ in 9.3 because they are too popular and are oversaturating the MM pool (aka they’re going to be coming back in December in the Santa Crates as rare drops like Missouri and Nikolai for all the whales), and the non-t10 steel ships are getting removed because they aren’t popular enough and will be coming back soonTM for coal (so probably 6-8 months down the road according to most of the guesses I’ve seen). 

Oh no way!  That is crazy!  I mean, I do agree that it is overpopulated but it seems like the majority have the population does have it so removing is like ehhh, ok.  

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