Jump to content
You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section.
db4100

Iwaki and Arkansas

49 comments in this topic

Recommended Posts

885
[LWA]
Members
1,128 posts

How come those two ships are in the console version of the game and not for the PC version?  Yeah, I get it that they were originally awards ships Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta, but they can still be put into the PC game as the Iwaki and Arkansas is in the console game.  Just like the Alabama and Alabama ST.  They are lonely tier 3 ships, what is the big deal?

  • Boring 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3,493
[-K-]
Members
8,358 posts
14,162 battles

Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta were reward ships for players who completed a certain number of battles in Alpha and Beta testing.  They have never been offered for sale beyond those phases.

  • Cool 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
364
[MOOW]
[MOOW]
Members
624 posts
23,363 battles
14 minutes ago, Ace_04 said:

Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta were reward ships for players who completed a certain number of battles in Alpha and Beta testing.  They have never been offered for sale beyond those phases.

Me as a collector..would like too see these become available.....somehow....probably will never happen...

  • Cool 3
  • Boring 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2,535
[SYN]
Members
8,236 posts
13,957 battles

They are t4 ships, and its been made pretty clear they will never be released to the greater public in wows pc.

In some polls people with the ships were pretty vehement about not letting non alpha/beta players get them and since there is no real money in it for WG, its likely never gonna happen. 

The console version is a new game and I believe the ships are available as a buy-in bundle only.

Edit, also they are different than their tech tree counterparts, so not like Alabama/ST which is the same ship with just a different camo.

Edited by Kapitan_Wuff

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3,953
[TBW]
Members
10,290 posts
17,483 battles

I played them as a Corgi captain, they were fun ships to play. I wouldn't mind having them in my ship collection, what is a complete collection if it's not complete. They probably wouldn't get any more use than all of the other "OP" ships I own and they can't even collect flakes but it is a piece of the collection after all. They are not in the Captains Logbook so I don't think WG considers them as collectable as I do. Maybe they could offer them to collectors for reaching 300 and then 350 ships instead of a patch. I don't think collectors would want to seal club with them too often, after all.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
317
[LSNB]
Members
1,587 posts
4,409 battles

I don't think you can really play Arkansas in this meta.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5,803
[WORX]
Members
10,688 posts
18,567 battles
1 hour ago, db4100 said:

How come those two ships are in the console version of the game and not for the PC version?  Yeah, I get it that they were originally awards ships Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta, but they can still be put into the PC game as the Iwaki and Arkansas is in the console game.  Just like the Alabama and Alabama ST.  They are lonely tier 3 ships, what is the big deal?

Well, Console have their game governance while PC WOWS has a different set of rules... These two developers are different and dont mix, EX; like oil and water.

What ever happens on the console side we (PC) dont get involved in.. Also, the stats for the ships on console are greatly different to PC.

Console games are configured differently to PC...

As for me, I've played both ships... Both are OP, especially the ARK Beta...

IMO you're not missing anything.

Edited by Navalpride33

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Members
224 posts
6,093 battles

They could always release an Arkansas B. That would actually make the ship available while at the same time not going back on the word to beta testers.

One thing about the USS Arkansas BB-33, it was the oldest Battleship still being used as a battleship during WW II. Early in the war it was a convoy escort to chase away commerce raiders and later it was used for shore bombardment in Europe and finally in the Pacific. An Arkansas B would be nice to have.

Its sister ship Wyoming BB-32, which is in the game, had its large guns removed and replaced by smaller ones and was used for training during the war.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1,115
Alpha Tester
2,552 posts
50 minutes ago, db4100 said:

How come those two ships are in the console version of the game and not for the PC version?  Yeah, I get it that they were originally awards ships Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta, but they can still be put into the PC game as the Iwaki and Arkansas is in the console game.  Just like the Alabama and Alabama ST.  They are lonely tier 3 ships, what is the big deal?

Don't let the name "World of Warships" fool you, but they're different games. No idea who develops WoWS Legends but I doubt it's the same jerks at Lesta. Wargrinding hasn't added a new low tier premium ship since 2018, so you can forget about ever seeing regular versions of Iwaki or Arkansas. Yubari is your only alternative for Iwaki. For Arkansas, Massachusetts is the closest in playstyle as both ships have improved secondaries.

  • Cool 2
  • Boring 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers
13,990 posts
5,814 battles
55 minutes ago, Kapitan_Wuff said:

They are t4 ships, and its been made pretty clear they will never be released to the greater public in wows pc.

Just like there would never be submarines, and never any guns bigger than 460mm, yes. :Smile_trollface:

 

  • Cool 1
  • Funny 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3,493
[-K-]
Members
8,358 posts
14,162 battles
1 hour ago, Grapefruitcannon said:

Me as a collector..would like too see these become available.....somehow....probably will never happen...

Likely never.  But if they were, they'd have to drop the Alpha and Beta surnames for the sake of the original's exclusivity.

47 minutes ago, destawaits said:

I don't think you can really play Arkansas in this meta.

True story.  Same pretty much goes for Nikolai.

33 minutes ago, Wolcott said:

Wargrinding hasn't added a new low tier premium ship since 2018, so you can forget about ever seeing regular versions of Iwaki or Arkansas.

What about Charleston?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32,556
[HINON]
Alpha Tester
24,160 posts
19,031 battles
1 minute ago, Ace_04 said:

What about Charleston?

Hardly worth noting compared to the influx of T9+ ships in that same period. Wargaming is ignoring lower tiers, and as collector this annoys me too.

Also, as owner of both Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta, I'd be absolutely fine with them being sold under a different name. Like, just Iwaki and Arkansas, possibly with a different camo. That way collectors can enjoy these ships too and mine will remain unique and noteworthy.

  • Cool 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7,846
[GWG]
[GWG]
Supertester
26,431 posts
14,165 battles
1 hour ago, Kapitan_Wuff said:

They are t4 ships, and its been made pretty clear they will never be released to the greater public in wows pc.

In some polls people with the ships were pretty vehement about not letting non alpha/beta players get them and since there is no real money in it for WG, its likely never gonna happen. 

The console version is a new game and I believe the ships are available as a buy-in bundle only.

Edit, also they are different than their tech tree counterparts, so not like Alabama/ST which is the same ship with just a different camo.

Even if made available they would not be what they are as reward ships as I doubt they would be released with the extra upgrade slots that they have as reward ships which would reduce their power. I have no problem with them being released but only if those extra slots are removed along with the alpha & beta tags.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8,274
[PVE]
Members
11,852 posts
24,537 battles

I am a HUGE proponent of letting all players in the game have access to ALL ships in the game. Wanted that clear from the get go.

However, in regards to Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta I make an exception. Those were special ships for the original testers of the game. As much as I would love to add them to my port I have no issue with WG keeping them exclusive for Alpha and Beta testers.

Now, stuff being made now that gets gated behind Steel and RB and such. That is wrong and needs to stop.

  • Boring 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
388
[-N-]
Alpha Tester
813 posts

I'm not so sure about allowing those ships to be released like that.  Many of us that came up through all of the testing and worked on getting balance right didn't expect any rewards but were happy to have these 2 ships to show that we did something great and are appreciated for that.  To me it would honestly cheapen the achievement and sacrifices we went through while doing the testing, bug finding, grinding up levels to have them reset so we could continue testing.

This isn't saying anything bad about people who want them to be spread around to everyone else that could buy them or just want them to finish a collection, just my own thoughts about the issue as someone who owns both.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
141
[SHAN]
Beta Testers
444 posts

I have the Arkansas Beta, and personally feel they should at the very least release her into the wild for all to have if they so wish. If WG is going to listen to the folks that want exclusivity, give Arkansas Beta an exclusive camo and drop the Beta when you release the "normal" version. I would buy the "normal" version if they did this.

 

Cirran

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2,794
[-K-]
Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters
7,214 posts
9,362 battles
On 2/5/2020 at 1:20 PM, Grapefruitcannon said:

Me as a collector..would like too see these become available.....somehow....probably will never happen...

I mean, it's not like we don't have other unavailable ships in addition to Iwaki and Ark Beta:

  • Konig
  • Nikolai I
  • Gulio Cesare
  • Gremmy
  • Kamikaze, Kamikaze R, Fujin
  • Belfast
  • Kutuzov
  • Enterprise
  • Missouri
  • Musashi

Soon enough Smolensk and JB will join them.

It's actually a crazy amount, when you list them all together like that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2,794
[-K-]
Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters
7,214 posts
9,362 battles
On 2/5/2020 at 1:40 PM, destawaits said:

I don't think you can really play Arkansas in this meta.

On 2/5/2020 at 2:29 PM, Ace_04 said:

True story.  Same pretty much goes for Nikolai.

Yup. I honestly miss playing an Ark Beta game once in a blue moon, but facing 2-3 CVs without AA is no fun. And in case on Ark Beta, it really is no AA.

On 2/5/2020 at 2:32 PM, Lert said:

as owner of both Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta, I'd be absolutely fine with them being sold under a different name. Like, just Iwaki and Arkansas, possibly with a different camo. That way collectors can enjoy these ships too and mine will remain unique and noteworthy.

I only have the Arkansas, wouldn't mind if it was released into the wild with a different name too. Looks-wise there is nothing unique, because stock Wyoming looks identical; the camo is alright, I guess (at least the gray scheme looks less dated).

But I don't think it'll happen. WG once floated the idea, probably got fairly passionate feedback from some folks, and it seems they don't want to return to the subject. And the aforementioned lack of interest in low-tier premiums on their part is the last proverbial nail.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32,556
[HINON]
Alpha Tester
24,160 posts
19,031 battles
2 minutes ago, vak_ said:

WG once floated the idea, probably got fairly passionate feedback from some folks

Yes because WG has proven so sensitive to 'passionate' feedback.  :Smile_hiding:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Members
5,364 posts
18 minutes ago, vak_ said:

I mean, it's not like we don't have other unavailable ships in addition to Iwaki and Ark Beta:

  • Konig
  • Nikolai I
  • Gulio Cesare
  • Gremmy
  • Kamikaze, Kamikaze R, Fujin
  • Belfast
  • Kutuzov
  • Enterprise
  • Missouri
  • Musashi

Soon enough Smolensk and JB will join them.

It's actually a crazy amount, when you list them all together like that.

Yeah, but the difference is that I have all of those listed, but I'll never have any way to get Iwaki or Arkansas the way things are.  I'm not putting a huge complaint, just noting the difference.  They're for beta/alpha testers, and I'm fine with that.

 

 

Edited by Kirov_Six

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2,794
[-K-]
Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters
7,214 posts
9,362 battles
Just now, Kirov_Six said:

Yeah, but the difference is that I have all of those listed, but I'll never have any way to get Iwaki or Arkansas the way things are.

 C'est la vie

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Members
5,364 posts
1 minute ago, vak_ said:

 C'est la vie

Like I said, I'm not posting a huge complaint over it.  For alpha/beta testers makes sense to me.  I missed it/wasn't there, and that's how it works.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
364
[MOOW]
[MOOW]
Members
624 posts
23,363 battles
7 hours ago, vak_ said:

I mean, it's not like we don't have other unavailable ships in addition to Iwaki and Ark Beta:

  • Konig
  • Nikolai I
  • Gulio Cesare
  • Gremmy
  • Kamikaze, Kamikaze R, Fujin
  • Belfast
  • Kutuzov
  • Enterprise
  • Missouri
  • Musashi

Soon enough Smolensk and JB will join them.

It's actually a crazy amount, when you list them all together like that.

i have all of those.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Members
97 posts
1,366 battles

Don't count on it.

I have the Arkansas Beta on my first account (Europe server) and WG would not help me transfer my beta stuff (CBT flag and Arkansas Beta) to my newer main account (NA server).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2,098
[ARGSY]
Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters
6,918 posts
26,913 battles

The biggest problem with the Arkansas Beta is: she isn't very well balanced. 

Besides because of the CV stat padders at T4, that makes it no fun to play her anymore because of no AA, 

she has full access to the T9+ modules and that give her a huge advantage over the other T4 ships. 

You get more range, better stealth and higher accuracy then the usual T4 ships.

And AFAIK, she didn't got the nerf of the Wyoming after CBT.

That's something most players,who ask to add her, don't know.

If you remove this, then you can just play a stock Wyoming.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×