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Now I see nothing but complaints from non- CV Captains about Randumb games where there are more than one CV on either side. 

I also see complaints from CV players who have to wait to get a game. 

BATTLEGROUP COMMANDER MODE

A Human Captain CV with four DDs spawn on either side.  The BOT DDs just try to stay with the CV to provide AA. If the enemy gets too close their guns will shoot at ships. 

Then it is all up to you CV BATTLEGROUP COMMANDER!!!!!

Lots of new tactics

No bad chat

Only good Karma !

i do not think the Devs would have a hard time programming four DDs of the same Nationality of the CV and same DD class to try to stay 1 km from the Carrier.  

The more I think about this mode the more I want to play CV.

If there is not an immediate game and there are two CVs waiting BATTLEGROUP COMMANDER mode starts!   

Think about it. 

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This seems like it falls into another remove CV thread without calling it that. Your idea is remove CVs and make them play with bots. Surely this is not in earnest but a troll.

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11 minutes ago, The_Fire_Department said:

This seems like it falls into another remove CV thread without calling it that. Your idea is remove CVs and make them play with bots. Surely this is not in earnest but a troll.

I don't understand why "remove cv" threads are now considered unreasonable trolls, after all, "remove cv" complaints by players led to the CV rework, if it was ok then, why not now? The fault for these threads lies at WG's door. Indeed, all of my RTS CVs were officially removed from the game last year. great example set by the devs for all those who shout "REMOVE CVs!"

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56 minutes ago, Toxic_Potato said:

Now I see nothing but complaints from non- CV Captains about Randumb games where there are more than one CV on either side. 

I also see complaints from CV players who have to wait to get a game. 

BATTLEGROUP COMMANDER MODE

A Human Captain CV with four DDs spawn on either side.  The BOT DDs just try to stay with the CV to provide AA. If the enemy gets too close their guns will shoot at ships. 

Then it is all up to you CV BATTLEGROUP COMMANDER!!!!!

Lots of new tactics

No bad chat

Only good Karma !

i do not think the Devs would have a hard time programming four DDs of the same Nationality of the CV and same DD class to try to stay 1 km from the Carrier.  

The more I think about this mode the more I want to play CV.

If there is not an immediate game and there are two CVs waiting BATTLEGROUP COMMANDER mode starts!   

Think about it. 

pretty epic to watch all four bot dd's drop smoke lines as soon as they where detected by the enemy cv....

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22 minutes ago, The_Fire_Department said:

This seems like it falls into another remove CV thread without calling it that. Your idea is remove CVs and make them play with bots. Surely this is not in earnest but a troll.

No.  If there are more than two CVs in que we have complaints.  Players want one CV per side. So....

A Human CV with four bot DDs VS the same.  The four bot DDs are your escort.  Wherever you take your CV the DDs follow.

Maybe unlimited planes...

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I have been thinking about this idea a lot along the lines of what would encourage me to take my Enterprise out.

This is it. 

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Just now, Toxic_Potato said:

I have been thinking about this idea a lot along the lines of what would encourage me to take my Enterprise out.

This is it. 

2 words : training room

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The future is in blimps. Blimps tethered to ships with gunners shooting planes.

See the source image

 

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12 minutes ago, Waxing_Gibbous said:

pretty epic to watch all four bot dd's drop smoke lines as soon as they where detected by the enemy cv....

...and randomly dropping torpedoes INTO the battle group because...bot reasons.

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6 minutes ago, desmo_2 said:

...and randomly dropping torpedoes INTO the battle group because...bot reasons.

Bots lives matter!

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Most of the people just really mean, to remove the bad cv players, in many matches they are be greatful if the good cv player safe their [edited]from their own [edited] situation they put themselfs, like as a BB hunting 2 DDs...:cap_book:

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47 minutes ago, Waxing_Gibbous said:

The future is in blimps. Blimps tethered to ships with gunners shooting planes.

See the source image

 

Quite historical!  Blimps were used extensively for sub hunting during WW2.  The US Navy even developed a warfare insignia for blimp aviators.  After subs, perhaps the next major change to WoWs will be the blimp invasion?  They already have the grapics from that silly flooded city event.  Way too easy!

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57 minutes ago, INVICTO79 said:

Most of the people just really mean, to remove the bad cv players, in many matches they are be greatful if the good cv player safe their [edited]from their own [edited] situation they put themselfs, like as a BB hunting 2 DDs...:cap_book:

Wrong. We really mean REMOVE CVs.

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I play Randoms all the time. CV make the game exciting, COOP so boring and way tooo EASY. I love the salty chat in game about CV. I would not play any other game because you salty guys make this game great again.

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On 2/2/2020 at 7:20 AM, LoveBote said:

I don't understand why "remove cv" threads are now considered unreasonable trolls, after all, "remove cv" complaints by players led to the CV rework, if it was ok then, why not now? The fault for these threads lies at WG's door. Indeed, all of my RTS CVs were officially removed from the game last year. great example set by the devs for all those who shout "REMOVE CVs!"

Actually, the rework was meant to INCREASE the number of battles with CV’s by making them less powerful and more accesible. It was most certainly not a step along the road to removal. 

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10 minutes ago, CaptCombustion said:

Actually, the rework was meant to INCREASE the number of battles with CV’s by making them less powerful and more accesible. It was most certainly not a step along the road to removal. 

It was both. Officially, all RTS CVs were removed from the game, including premiums, and all except tiers 5, 7 and 9  were, officially, replaced with rework CVs. This was the excuse given to explain the doublon compensation made available to disgruntled premium CV owners.

Which is all why it is correct and fair to say, that WG, by removing RTS cvs from the game in response to player complaints on social media about RTS cvs, validated all those past "Remove CV" threads. I have a full archive of the CV rework backstory, all sorts of things were said, and all sorts of things were mean't, by all sorts of WG representatives.

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On 2/2/2020 at 6:35 AM, Toxic_Potato said:

No.  If there are more than two CVs in que we have complaints.  Players want one CV per side. So....

A Human CV with four bot DDs VS the same.  The four bot DDs are your escort.  Wherever you take your CV the DDs follow.

Maybe unlimited planes...

I believe players want ships somewhere close to balanced. CV's are not balanced & WG has given up on balancing them.

The only workable solution is to remove CV's until they are at least near the balance ballpark.

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Yall dismissed this idea rather quickly, I think it actually has some merit. 

I don't think he's saying to remove CVs, this would only happen if there are too many waiting in que. 

The main point most people bring up when discussing hard caps to CVs are que dumps. If we had a mode like this, que dumps for CVs wouldn't exist. 

How I imagine it could work is only 2 players, 1 on each team, but in total there would be 3 CVs, 1 BB, 2 CAs, and 4 DDs on each team. Only the one CV is player controlled, that one being the center of the formation. The AI will not use consumables and will match the CVs speed and course, and will fire if they see an enemy. They will also be the same nationality as your CV. 

The AI CVs, however, will be carbon copies of yours and will mimic your plane movement. Essentially, you play as one very large squadron. 

The AI will get special versions of ships that can keep up with your CV and has the same amount of AA as another nation's ship (so you aren't gimped based on the nation you play). 

The map will always be ocean, with cyclone constantly on. 

After a couple of minutes, a cap will appear in the center, similar to arms race. At that point, the Cyclone clears up. 

At least, this is worth discussing 

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27 minutes ago, kgh52 said:

I believe players want ships somewhere close to balanced. CV's are not balanced & WG has given up on balancing them.

The only workable solution is to remove CV's until they are at least near the balance ballpark. 

You call low damage cv a game changer. While DD kill with one strike. High power BB  most times on top team damage. Oh that's balance.  You think spotting is so fun. Ha Ha . This game about adjustment, work with what you got to the best of your abilities. Its rare to see a cv at #1 in damage. 

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18 minutes ago, PugsOfSteel said:

You call low damage cv a game changer. While DD kill with one strike. High power BB  most times on top team damage. Oh that's balance.  You think spotting is so fun. Ha Ha . This game about adjustment, work with what you got to the best of your abilities. Its rare to see a cv at #1 in damage. 

You should probably look at some of the data.  Last high tiers CVs overtook BBs in average damage on the maple syrup.  That's just the average for all of the high tier ships so its not necessarily a good comparison.  I did crunch the numbers for only T8 BBs and CVs and it was T8 CVs that had a higher average damage.  I'd don't know if T10 is the same.  My guess is that the average is very close.  So CVs aren't low damage ships because the data says otherwise. http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20200201/na_week/average_class.html

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3 minutes ago, Slimeball91 said:

You should probably look at some of the data.  Last high tiers CVs overtook BBs in average damage on the maple syrup.  That's just the average for all of the high tier ships so its not necessarily a good comparison.  I did crunch the numbers for only T8 BBs and CVs and it was T8 CVs that had a higher average damage.  I'd don't know if T10 is the same.  My guess is that the average is very close.  So CVs aren't low damage ships because the data says otherwise.

So few CV in game that can do high damage, but so few in game. I play cv a lot. Most times its the other ships that do the damage. This stats are not what I see in game. I would take them as a grain of salt. I see salty players in chat mad about cv. I tell them I would not worry about the cv taking you out, but worry there team taking you out. CV relies very heavy on team play to make a difference.

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