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What in all ludicrousity? Balance changes are not nearly enough.

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https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-091/

 

Yes good. we are now finally talking about some ships that really needed some help. Gearing, YY, CM and nerfing kremlin. 

 

But really? 

Soviet BBs sigma from 1.9 to 1.85. ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU EVEN TRYING? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANYONES EVEN TRIED TO PULL SUCH AS FAST ONE. 0.05?? REALLY? Again, with the power creep, Soviet BBs have like 8 different places where they are literally best in the game bar none. And THIS is the nerf? 

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Same issue with the buffs: 

2-4 second reload buff? REALLY? 

1 extra knot of speed? out of 68? REALLY? 

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more like time to turn out the torches and do some good ol rioting. 

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So we riot when they go overboard, like the original YY nerf. And when they attempt to go minor, incremental change... we RIOT? Got it :)

O7.

I don't disagree the Russian BB nerf is still a joke. Kremlin's turret traverse is breathtaking. They turn faster than some cruisers turrets do. But maybe this is a sign they will start doing adjustments more frequently but in smaller increments to try not to go overboard again.

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Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. :Smile_smile:

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And here comes the typical "RUsSiAn bIAs" train

Kremlin is at least getting a nerf

Worcester is far more overpowered with no nerfs in sight

Tell me again how you ignore the USN bias elephant in the room

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23 minutes ago, SkaerKrow said:

Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. :Smile_smile:

I think from some people's perspective it is a meaningless nerf that doesn't address any issues with the ship and is just so they can say they "nerfed" it. 

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People will not be happy with the Krem nerfed into the ground. They are just complaining, copying the madman Flamu, because they think it is cool.

Flamu ought to be ashamed of himself, the way he has led the lemming train of Russian hate against the Krem.

He knows, better than anyone, that it is far from being the most dangerous tier X BB.

Stop the Russian hate. Flamu must repent of his wickedness and sinful comments.

Buff the Krem.

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1 hour ago, BlailBlerg said:

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-091/

 

Yes good. we are now finally talking about some ships that really needed some help. Gearing, YY, CM and nerfing kremlin. 

 

But really? 

Soviet BBs sigma from 1.9 to 1.85. ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU EVEN TRYING? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANYONES EVEN TRIED TO PULL SUCH AS FAST ONE. 0.05?? REALLY? Again, with the power creep, Soviet BBs have like 8 different places where they are literally best in the game bar none. And THIS is the nerf? 

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Same issue with the buffs: 

2-4 second reload buff? REALLY? 

1 extra knot of speed? out of 68? REALLY? 

Didnt the Kermlin's AA survivability also just got nerfed?
So this is the 2nd thing. They nerf a little by a little which in the end is more over time

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39 minutes ago, SkaerKrow said:

Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. :Smile_smile:

You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong.

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2 hours ago, Wazaa16 said:

So this is the 2nd thing. They nerf a little by a little which in the end is more over time

3rd.  They also nerfed its AP alpha by a full 1k damage and played around with the shell parameters a bit as well.  

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3 hours ago, Lert said:

You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong.

This....  and when it comes to RU ships...   you can triple the salt.    But,  let's also be honest,  WG does stumble enough here and there to keep the fire stoked.    

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7 minutes ago, iRA6E said:

WG does stumble enough here and there to keep the fire stoked.    

Oh definitely, I'm still salty about how they handled PR and the Pan Ikea destroyer line.

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4 hours ago, DolphinPrincess said:

Worcester is far more overpowered with no nerfs in sight

 

USN cruisers melt if grabbed by the hilt as they have no [edited] you torps to force a lose-lose. You have to play very passively to let a USN CA or even their CL's gain an advantage.

4 hours ago, Lert said:

You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong.


Most game developers don't release new game content with <1 Year of playtesting, and by playtesting, I mean professionals whose entire JOB is doing that. They also don't try to integrate content that is 4+ years old with new content without simultaneously reworking the old content. See: TF2 for example *still* rebalances first unlocks from time to time to avoid power creep (which they have done spectacularly; the default equipment is still often some of the best in the game).

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4 hours ago, SkaerKrow said:

Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. :Smile_smile:

Agreed.

I mean, it's different people I think, doing the whining, but still. 

Then again, I think 90% or more of the calls for nerfs or buffs to ships are just standard MMO-"community" garbage, blathering because someone can't faceroll an enemy using their favorite character class or build or ship or whatever, or because they think they should be able to dominate uncontested with their favorite character class or unit type. 

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4 hours ago, Lert said:

You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong.

This is very dangerous for us. Just look at MWO (my favorite reference I know) and tell me how well that has been going for them. The developers will simply stop caring and we have at least ourselves to blame.

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23 hours ago, BlailBlerg said:

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-091/

 

Yes good. we are now finally talking about some ships that really needed some help. Gearing, YY, CM and nerfing kremlin. 

 

But really? 

Soviet BBs sigma from 1.9 to 1.85. ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU EVEN TRYING? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANYONES EVEN TRIED TO PULL SUCH AS FAST ONE. 0.05?? REALLY? Again, with the power creep, Soviet BBs have like 8 different places where they are literally best in the game bar none. And THIS is the nerf? 

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Same issue with the buffs: 

2-4 second reload buff? REALLY? 

1 extra knot of speed? out of 68? REALLY? 

Oh come off of it. This post of yours  is by far less reasonable then what WG is doing.   Yelling in all caps  

 

Kremlin now has seen 2 consecutive small nerfs. The third small nerf over all.  Its far better WG uses a consistent strategy like this then what happened to Henry and YY .   At the same time Hindi  got 2 medium buffs that combined are huge  ( Luetjens + reload boost).  

The one and only thing that can be complained about here is that there is an inconsistency to the balancing strategy. Its as if different people made the final decisions.   IE one guy is running around handing out large nerfs and buffs. Then another is running around changing things in small steps.   It seems almost bipolar from the outside. 


 

 

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31 minutes ago, LiaoXanLan said:

This is very dangerous for us. Just look at MWO (my favorite reference I know) and tell me how well that has been going for them. The developers will simply stop caring and we have at least ourselves to blame.

That game always had inept developers, sadly. 

 

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30 minutes ago, eviltane said:

 Yelling in all caps  like a tramp at a busy train station. 

And focusing on delivery rather than content is equally pedantic.

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Big nerf = it's too much! *rage*

Small nerf = it's not enough! *rage*

WG releases OP premium ship = it's PTW! *rage*

WG releases reasonable, non-op premium ship = it's terrible! *rage*

Just more proof that the playerbase as a collective should be ignored.

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2 minutes ago, echelon5 said:

Big nerf = it's too much! *rage*

Small nerf = it's not enough! *rage*

WG releases OP premium ship = it's PTW! *rage*

WG releases reasonable, non-op premium ship = it's terrible! *rage*

Just more proof that the playerbase as a collective should be ignored.

If the player base spoke with a collective voice, that would be one thing, but more often than not it's:

Nerf to Favorite/Well liked Ship=What the [edited] are you doing wargaming!?!

Nerf to Hated/Bane Ship=Not enough, nerf it into the dirt

Nerf to ship you don't care about=the sound of silence

There are exceptions to the rule; when wargaming fixed the 'bug' that was the at the time new shift to spotting bloom disappearing after ~3 seconds of not being spotted, pretty much everyone threw a crapfit, rightfully so, at them fixing a great change.

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