654 [FAE] BlailBlerg Members 2,620 posts 3,633 battles Report post #1 Posted January 31, 2020 https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-091/ Yes good. we are now finally talking about some ships that really needed some help. Gearing, YY, CM and nerfing kremlin. But really? Soviet BBs sigma from 1.9 to 1.85. ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU EVEN TRYING? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANYONES EVEN TRIED TO PULL SUCH AS FAST ONE. 0.05?? REALLY? Again, with the power creep, Soviet BBs have like 8 different places where they are literally best in the game bar none. And THIS is the nerf? -- Same issue with the buffs: 2-4 second reload buff? REALLY? 1 extra knot of speed? out of 68? REALLY? 11 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119 [TAFFY] vallonzek Members 136 posts Report post #2 Posted January 31, 2020 you seem surprised? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654 [FAE] BlailBlerg Members 2,620 posts 3,633 battles Report post #3 Posted January 31, 2020 more like time to turn out the torches and do some good ol rioting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
330 [PSP] MichiganEagle Members 564 posts 5,040 battles Report post #4 Posted January 31, 2020 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
224 [MINVY] Capn_Nugget [MINVY] Members 764 posts 7,111 battles Report post #5 Posted January 31, 2020 So we riot when they go overboard, like the original YY nerf. And when they attempt to go minor, incremental change... we RIOT? Got it :) O7. I don't disagree the Russian BB nerf is still a joke. Kremlin's turret traverse is breathtaking. They turn faster than some cruisers turrets do. But maybe this is a sign they will start doing adjustments more frequently but in smaller increments to try not to go overboard again. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,704 [SIM] SkaerKrow Members 5,587 posts 9,012 battles Report post #6 Posted January 31, 2020 Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
162 [-WD-] LastSamurai714 Members 493 posts 9,322 battles Report post #7 Posted January 31, 2020 Russian ships are underperforming. In Soviet Russian...Nerf “buff’s” you. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,703 [O7] DolphinPrincess Members 1,032 posts 5,166 battles Report post #8 Posted January 31, 2020 And here comes the typical "RUsSiAn bIAs" train Kremlin is at least getting a nerf Worcester is far more overpowered with no nerfs in sight Tell me again how you ignore the USN bias elephant in the room 3 1 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
255 [FG] SovereignEagle Members 566 posts 4,805 battles Report post #9 Posted January 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, SkaerKrow said: Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. I think from some people's perspective it is a meaningless nerf that doesn't address any issues with the ship and is just so they can say they "nerfed" it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654 [FAE] BlailBlerg Members 2,620 posts 3,633 battles Report post #10 Posted January 31, 2020 sledgehammers need to be used on good steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,015 [USA-N] SidTheBlade Members 785 posts 10,599 battles Report post #11 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) People will not be happy with the Krem nerfed into the ground. They are just complaining, copying the madman Flamu, because they think it is cool. Flamu ought to be ashamed of himself, the way he has led the lemming train of Russian hate against the Krem. He knows, better than anyone, that it is far from being the most dangerous tier X BB. Stop the Russian hate. Flamu must repent of his wickedness and sinful comments. Buff the Krem. Edited January 31, 2020 by SidTheBlade 3 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
108 Wazaa16 Members 97 posts 1,366 battles Report post #12 Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, BlailBlerg said: https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-091/ Yes good. we are now finally talking about some ships that really needed some help. Gearing, YY, CM and nerfing kremlin. But really? Soviet BBs sigma from 1.9 to 1.85. ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU EVEN TRYING? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANYONES EVEN TRIED TO PULL SUCH AS FAST ONE. 0.05?? REALLY? Again, with the power creep, Soviet BBs have like 8 different places where they are literally best in the game bar none. And THIS is the nerf? -- Same issue with the buffs: 2-4 second reload buff? REALLY? 1 extra knot of speed? out of 68? REALLY? Didnt the Kermlin's AA survivability also just got nerfed? So this is the 2nd thing. They nerf a little by a little which in the end is more over time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33,742 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 24,783 posts 20,267 battles Report post #13 Posted January 31, 2020 39 minutes ago, SkaerKrow said: Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,083 [KSC] yashma Clan Supertest Coordinator 5,287 posts 8,530 battles Report post #14 Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Wazaa16 said: So this is the 2nd thing. They nerf a little by a little which in the end is more over time 3rd. They also nerfed its AP alpha by a full 1k damage and played around with the shell parameters a bit as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,344 [S0L0] iRA6E [S0L0] Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 4,737 posts 7,264 battles Report post #15 Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Lert said: You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong. This.... and when it comes to RU ships... you can triple the salt. But, let's also be honest, WG does stumble enough here and there to keep the fire stoked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33,742 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 24,783 posts 20,267 battles Report post #16 Posted January 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, iRA6E said: WG does stumble enough here and there to keep the fire stoked. Oh definitely, I'm still salty about how they handled PR and the Pan Ikea destroyer line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,179 [5BS] _RC1138 Banned 8,864 posts Report post #17 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, DolphinPrincess said: Worcester is far more overpowered with no nerfs in sight USN cruisers melt if grabbed by the hilt as they have no [edited] you torps to force a lose-lose. You have to play very passively to let a USN CA or even their CL's gain an advantage. 4 hours ago, Lert said: You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong. Most game developers don't release new game content with <1 Year of playtesting, and by playtesting, I mean professionals whose entire JOB is doing that. They also don't try to integrate content that is 4+ years old with new content without simultaneously reworking the old content. See: TF2 for example *still* rebalances first unlocks from time to time to avoid power creep (which they have done spectacularly; the default equipment is still often some of the best in the game). Edited January 31, 2020 by _RC1138 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,749 [CMFRT] KilljoyCutter [CMFRT] Banned 16,985 posts Report post #18 Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, SkaerKrow said: Oh come off of it already. People lost their minds over the "sledgehammer" nerfs to Kleber and Henri, yet when WG tries more incremental changes, here we are again with whine threads. Agreed. I mean, it's different people I think, doing the whining, but still. Then again, I think 90% or more of the calls for nerfs or buffs to ships are just standard MMO-"community" garbage, blathering because someone can't faceroll an enemy using their favorite character class or build or ship or whatever, or because they think they should be able to dominate uncontested with their favorite character class or unit type. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
130 [T-CF] LiaoXanLan Members 551 posts 3,130 battles Report post #19 Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Lert said: You've been here long enough to know that in the eyes f the playerbase everything WG does - including nothing - is wrong. This is very dangerous for us. Just look at MWO (my favorite reference I know) and tell me how well that has been going for them. The developers will simply stop caring and we have at least ourselves to blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,442 [SALVO] eviltane Members 2,681 posts 6,793 battles Report post #20 Posted January 31, 2020 23 hours ago, BlailBlerg said: https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-091/ Yes good. we are now finally talking about some ships that really needed some help. Gearing, YY, CM and nerfing kremlin. But really? Soviet BBs sigma from 1.9 to 1.85. ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU EVEN TRYING? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANYONES EVEN TRIED TO PULL SUCH AS FAST ONE. 0.05?? REALLY? Again, with the power creep, Soviet BBs have like 8 different places where they are literally best in the game bar none. And THIS is the nerf? -- Same issue with the buffs: 2-4 second reload buff? REALLY? 1 extra knot of speed? out of 68? REALLY? Oh come off of it. This post of yours is by far less reasonable then what WG is doing. Yelling in all caps Kremlin now has seen 2 consecutive small nerfs. The third small nerf over all. Its far better WG uses a consistent strategy like this then what happened to Henry and YY . At the same time Hindi got 2 medium buffs that combined are huge ( Luetjens + reload boost). The one and only thing that can be complained about here is that there is an inconsistency to the balancing strategy. Its as if different people made the final decisions. IE one guy is running around handing out large nerfs and buffs. Then another is running around changing things in small steps. It seems almost bipolar from the outside. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,749 [CMFRT] KilljoyCutter [CMFRT] Banned 16,985 posts Report post #21 Posted January 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, LiaoXanLan said: This is very dangerous for us. Just look at MWO (my favorite reference I know) and tell me how well that has been going for them. The developers will simply stop caring and we have at least ourselves to blame. That game always had inept developers, sadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,179 [5BS] _RC1138 Banned 8,864 posts Report post #22 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, eviltane said: Yelling in all caps like a tramp at a busy train station. And focusing on delivery rather than content is equally pedantic. Edited January 31, 2020 by _RC1138 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
80 [BE-ER] echelon5 Beta Testers 115 posts 15,712 battles Report post #23 Posted January 31, 2020 Big nerf = it's too much! *rage* Small nerf = it's not enough! *rage* WG releases OP premium ship = it's PTW! *rage* WG releases reasonable, non-op premium ship = it's terrible! *rage* Just more proof that the playerbase as a collective should be ignored. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,179 [5BS] _RC1138 Banned 8,864 posts Report post #24 Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, echelon5 said: Big nerf = it's too much! *rage* Small nerf = it's not enough! *rage* WG releases OP premium ship = it's PTW! *rage* WG releases reasonable, non-op premium ship = it's terrible! *rage* Just more proof that the playerbase as a collective should be ignored. If the player base spoke with a collective voice, that would be one thing, but more often than not it's: Nerf to Favorite/Well liked Ship=What the [edited] are you doing wargaming!?! Nerf to Hated/Bane Ship=Not enough, nerf it into the dirt Nerf to ship you don't care about=the sound of silence There are exceptions to the rule; when wargaming fixed the 'bug' that was the at the time new shift to spotting bloom disappearing after ~3 seconds of not being spotted, pretty much everyone threw a crapfit, rightfully so, at them fixing a great change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
438 TriHard_DodgeDealership Beta Testers 133 posts Report post #25 Posted January 31, 2020 there is literally nothing wrong with kremlin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
